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We want to give a fair deal and not take the risk of him going to the PSD.
We could talk now, but it'd be an extended version of 'GC we want pick 10 + <x>. Port we aren't offering pick 10, how about <y>'. Then we'd get to trade week and repeat until it's pick 10 at the last day. GC would be smarter to get it out the way so they can then take whatever pick we are giving them to other clubs from day 1 of trade week (or now for talking to other clubs out of finals) in turn.Given both clubs are out of finals action, you would hope they sit down and get it sorted well before trade week gets started so as to avoid dragging it out that week. However, Gold Coast may not be so keen as they may not like what Port are offering up. I would say our pick 10 this year is probably right.
We want to give a fair deal and not take the risk of him going to the PSD.
Pick 10 is fair and will get the job done.
Because Dodoro is the worst in the business to deal with. Good luck Essendon if you ever want to deal for one of ours.17 and 35 for Ryder, and that's because it's all we had. The deal almost didn't get done because Essendon wanted more.
At least GWS we've gotten even with by them being afraid to take Wingard and giving us Hombsch and Neade (as a steak knife OneGreatClub ). And the disaster of the loss to them blew away any excuses the old SANFL parasitic Footy Park model could ever work. I hold no grudges to them. GC though owe big still.You mean the fair deal that we got by getting Pick 16 instead of Pick 7 in 2010, Pick 6 instead of Pick 2 in 2011 and Pick 7 instead of Pick 5 in 2012? After both Gold Coast and GWS already raped the draft by getting all the best players preselected?
If there's clubs we owe zero favours to when it comes to drafting and trading, it's Gold Coast and GWS. Their existence is the only reason we don't have a player like Dixon or Cameron right now, because the AFL only scrapped priority picks when it was clear that both expansion clubs would be entitled to one the following years if they didn't.
Do I want to screw them over? Nope. But if we're giving up Pick 10, I want their second round pick back at a bare minimum. All trades deserve to be stacked in our favour when dealing with these guys.
You mean the fair deal that we got by getting Pick 16 instead of Pick 7 in 2010, Pick 6 instead of Pick 2 in 2011 and Pick 7 instead of Pick 5 in 2012? After both Gold Coast and GWS already raped the draft by getting all the best players preselected?
If there's clubs we owe zero favours to when it comes to drafting and trading, it's Gold Coast and GWS. Their existence is the only reason we don't have a player like Dixon or Cameron right now, because the AFL only scrapped priority picks when it was clear that both expansion clubs would be entitled to one the following years if they didn't.
Do I want to screw them over? Nope. But if we're giving up Pick 10, I want their second round pick back at a bare minimum. All trades deserve to be stacked in our favour when dealing with these guys.
They are 16th and Carlton are 17th. GC play Sydney and Carlton play Hawthorn so I can't see that changing. An end of first round compensation pick(#19) has been activated so they should have #22 as a second round pick. The compensation pick is with GC so Port may target that instead of the 2nd round pick.Whats gc 2nd round pick?
It could, clubs sometimes look at what they have when deciding how they will trade and GC have their first round pick and an end of round compensation pick. If they trade what will be pick 22 along with Dixon they will still have 3, 10 and 19.Dixon + Pick 21 for Pick 10? That won't happen.
Spot on mate.We could talk now, but it'd be an extended version of 'GC we want pick 10 + <x>. Port we aren't offering pick 10, how about <y>'. Then we'd get to trade week and repeat until it's pick 10 at the last day. GC would be smarter to get it out the way so they can then take whatever pick we are giving them to other clubs from day 1 of trade week (or now for talking to other clubs out of finals) in turn.
I have my doubts that GC, despite being a new club, has managed to avoid the tail wags dog stupidity of being afraid to do a decent trade straight up, for fear of offending fans who only think trades where one side has clearly destroyed the other are worth doing.
It could, clubs sometimes look at what they have when deciding how they will trade and GC have their first round pick and an end of round compensation pick. If they trade what will be pick 22 along with Dixon they will still have 3, 10 and 19.
Dixon + Pick 21 for Pick 10? That won't happen.
I can't understand why people keep saying our pick 10 is required. He is uncontracted yes? We paid pick 17 for Ryder and he was contracted and a better player than Dixon. Why are we going up??
You need 3 live picks in the draft.Dixon + Pick 22 for Pick 10
Sign me up.
If we could do that would be brilliant!
with Schulz, Shaw and Moore, plus 2nd rounders to try and get menzel! 1 live pick. job done!
I posted the following earlier in this thread. The value of a contested marking key forward absolutely cannot be understated. They are as rare as hen's teeth and clubs only very rarely collect them in the draft beyond a top 5 pick. Ryder is obviously a very valuable player but Dixon has greater value in the scheme of things...
I think he left out upgrading gray and krak.You need 3 live picks in the draft.
You need 3 live picks in the draft.
If we managed to wangle a 2nd rounder out of GC, then we probably should have just offered magic beans, because clearly GC don't know how to trade.
It will end up being pick 10 and that will be fair.