Chris Judd Interview

[BACCS]

Hang on, that game was very pivotal in our history. If people want to give him praise for being a good tagger, people have to accept he didn’t perform him duty that day doing the job they want to praise him for.

He certainly didn't do his job on those two occassions, but I didnt expect the thread to turn negative so quickly! I just wanted to give Shirls some praise in a tough year by his standards.

 

[StuPendus]

It's kind of ironic that a post praising a tagger has turned negative so quickly.

how about we accept that he is one of the best taggers in the comp and move on? I'm sure there's an 05/06 post somewhere you can whinge on if you really want to

I think he was in our top 5 best players on Saturday. He was our best in the first quarter and never burnt the ball once, unlike a few others.

Then in the 2nd half he completely shut down O'Keefe who was their best clearance player.

Helped us win that game without any recognition.

 

[Robfan100]

Hang on, that game was very pivotal in our history. If people want to give him praise for being a good tagger, people have to accept he didn’t perform him duty that day doing the job they want to praise him for.

And Rob was the only one who had a bad game that day? He certainly wasn't Robinson Caruso by any stretch of the imagination.

Whilst everyone's entitled to their opinion, the fact is that Judd obviously holds him in very high regard and for that, he deserves some recognition and respect, particularly from supporters of the team he represents.

He's certainly not our best player on the list, nor the worst, but at the moment he is on the list and he played a servicable game on the weekend. Give the guy a break FFS.

 

[Jars458]

And Rob was the only one who had a bad game that day? He certainly wasn't Robinson Caruso by any stretch of the imagination.

Whilst everyone's entitled to their opinion, the fact is that Judd obviously holds him in very high regard and for that, he deserves some recognition and respect, particularly from supporters of the team he represents.

He's certainly not our best player on the list, nor the worst, but at the moment he is on the list and he played a servicable game on the weekend. Give the guy a break FFS.

Spot on. I thinks its Crusoe though.

 

[beartoo]

And Rob was the only one who had a bad game that day? He certainly wasn't Robinson Caruso by any stretch of the imagination.

Whilst everyone's entitled to their opinion, the fact is that Judd obviously holds him in very high regard and for that, he deserves some recognition and respect, particularly from supporters of the team he represents.

He's certainly not our best player on the list, nor the worst, but at the moment he is on the list and he played a servicable game on the weekend. Give the guy a break FFS.

Good post. What you said!

 

[Alex99]

And Rob was the only one who had a bad game that day? He certainly wasn't Robinson Caruso by any stretch of the imagination.

Yeah ok, but this is a thread about Robert Shirley, not about the actual day so other don’t need to come into the equation. This thread is heaping praise on his role as a tagger so i just added that comment to even out the conversation. All think relating to Robert Shirley and his role in the team are not rosy.

Whilst everyone's entitled to their opinion, the fact is that Judd obviously holds him in very high regard and for that, he deserves some recognition and respect, particularly from supporters of the team he represents.

Where was that respect for Luke Jericho, David Gallagher, Mathew Smith ect, ect....didn’t they play for the crows, don’t they deserve respect as well.

He's certainly not our best player on the list, nor the worst, but at the moment he is on the list and he played a servicable game on the weekend. Give the guy a break FFS.

This is not about Robert Shirley, this is about the position he plays on the field. I don’t like taggers and don’t believe there is a place for them in any side. IMO his offensive skills don’t demand a place in the side and won’t acknowledge any good work a negative tagger does.

 

[NikkiNoo]

This is not about Robert Shirley, this is about the position he plays on the field. I don’t like taggers and don’t believe there is a place for them in any side. IMO his offensive skills don’t demand a place in the side and won’t acknowledge any good work a negative tagger does.

Which is why I am very glad with the coaching staff we do have, and that you are not involved. At least they are able to recognise that there is a very valid place for a tagger in the modern game and to also recongise Rob's work with the voting he receives at our B&F.

C98, you might want to take your blinkers off and have a look at the B&F voting procedures as to how they award the votes. If he didn't have an offensive side to his game, then he would not still be in the team and he wouldn't have received the accolades from the coaches and his opponents that he has.

Crap it isn't to do with Robert Shirley. This thread was created to discuss him specifically, you then weighed in with your negative nelly talk about him and you continue to do so while claiming it isn't about him. Anyone else confused by that reasoning?

 

[Robfan100]

Which is why I am very glad with the coaching staff we do have, and that you are not involved. At least they are able to recognise that there is a very valid place for a tagger in the modern game and to also recongise Rob's work with the voting he receives at our B&F.

C98, you might want to take your blinkers off and have a look at the B&F voting procedures as to how they award the votes. If he didn't have an offensive side to his game, then he would not still be in the team and he wouldn't have received the accolades from the coaches and his opponents that he has.

Crap it isn't to do with Robert Shirley. This thread was created to discuss him specifically, you then weighed in with your negative nelly talk about him and you continue to do so while claiming it isn't about him. Anyone else confused by that reasoning?

Excellent post NN. 10/10

 

[Wood_Duck]

pretty sure thomas hates the crows for whatever reason.

1997?

 

[Alex99]

Which is why I am very glad with the coaching staff we do have, and that you are not involved. At least they are able to recognise that there is a very valid place for a tagger in the modern game and to also recongise Rob's work with the voting he receives at our B&F.

C98, you might want to take your blinkers off and have a look at the B&F voting procedures as to how they award the votes. If he didn't have an offensive side to his game, then he would not still be in the team and he wouldn't have received the accolades from the coaches and his opponents that he has.

Crap it isn't to do with Robert Shirley. This thread was created to discuss him specifically, you then weighed in with your negative nelly talk about him and you continue to do so while claiming it isn't about him. Anyone else confused by that reasoning?

Don’t worry Nicky, the feeling is mutual. You may want to reconsider you feeling about the current day coaching staff as they also have only selected him 3 times this year. Ask yourself, why isn’t he an automatic selection any more. If his offensive output was so fantastic, why did he only play 3 times in the first 13 rounds? And there is no certainty he will get selected this week either.

 

[Southerntakeover]

Don’t worry Nicky, the feeling is mutual. You may want to reconsider you feeling about the current day coaching staff as they also have only selected him 3 times this year. Ask yourself, why isn’t he an automatic selection any more. If his offensive output was so fantastic, why did he only play 3 times in the first 13 rounds? And there is no certainty he will get selected this week either.

But you claimed it wasnt about him, rather that theres no place in modern football for taggers.

Are you claiming we've only tagged three times this year?

 

[Alex99]

But you claimed it wasnt about him, rather that theres no place in modern football for taggers.

Are you claiming we've only tagged three times this year?

No not at all. But i do believe the importance of being a quality tagger has moved away from 90% negating / 10% offensive output to 50% negating and 50% hurt factor on the way back and unfortunately for Robert Shirley he doesn’t have that hurt factor on the way back.

That’s why Robert Shirley hasn’t been picked; his offensive output isn’t effective enough for a developing side. There is no role for a negative tagger anymore and Robert Shirley is a negative tagger, sure he has some offensive productivity but clearly not enough.

He may have been called up as a speciality tagger against Geelong but his last 2 selections were out of necessity. If Simon Goodwin was available to play against Sydney, i doubt Robert Shirley would have been wearing the tri colours of Adelaide.

 

[twentydollarnote]

anyone know if that show is repeated at all? I missed it.

 

[Macjoe]

Yeah ok, but this is a thread about Robert Shirley, ...
This is not about Robert Shirley, this is about the position he plays on the field. I don’t like taggers and don’t believe there is a place for them in any side. IMO his offensive skills don’t demand a place in the side and won’t acknowledge any good work a negative tagger does.

Anyway, the thread is actually about the fact that Judd, arguably the best midfielder in the business RATES Rob as a tagger, showing respect both for Rob and for the way he plays his role.

I agree that negative taggers are not the best aspect of the game, and I tend to think Rob's time is coming to an end soon, maybe even this year. On the weekend after the game he mentioned to Jason Tourney that he needed to re-invent himself some for the AFC game.

However, give credit where credit is due: Shirley has been rated by the AFC in the past, has played close to 150 games with distinction and is still getting some games, even if you don't rate him much.

 

[Alex99]

Anyway, the thread is actually about the fact that Judd, arguably the best midfielder in the business RATES Rob as a tagger, showing respect both for Rob and for the way he plays his role.

I agree that negative taggers are not the best aspect of the game, and I tend to think Rob's time is coming to an end soon, maybe even this year. On the weekend after the game he mentioned to Jason Tourney that he needed to re-invent himself some for the AFC game.

However, give credit where credit is due: Shirley has been rated by the AFC in the past, has played close to 150 games with distinction and is still getting some games, even if you don't rate him much.

Fine – Robert Shirley is the greatest player this club has every produced and it’s a ****ing disgrace he hasn’t played every game so far. I don’t know what the hell was Neil Craig was thinking. With a superb player like this not in the side, we will forever be poorer.

Happy.

 

[Macjoe]

Fine – Robert Shirley is the greatest player this club has every produced and it’s a ****ing disgrace he hasn’t played every game so far. I don’t know what the hell was Neil Craig was thinking. With a superb player like this not in the side, we will forever be poorer.

Happy.

OMG, you sound like my wife when I piss her off. That's worrying, 'cos she's usually right.

 

[Wood_Duck]

Barry Hall once said that the best Full Back that hed ever played on was Nathan Bassett.

What has that got to do with this thread? Precious little, but its a similar story.

 

[Crow-mo]

Which is why I am very glad with the coaching staff we do have, and that you are not involved. At least they are able to recognise that there is a very valid place for a tagger in the modern game and to also recongise Rob's work with the voting he receives at our B&F.

C98, you might want to take your blinkers off and have a look at the B&F voting procedures as to how they award the votes. If he didn't have an offensive side to his game, then he would not still be in the team and he wouldn't have received the accolades from the coaches and his opponents that he has.

Crap it isn't to do with Robert Shirley. This thread was created to discuss him specifically, you then weighed in with your negative nelly talk about him and you continue to do so while claiming it isn't about him. Anyone else confused by that reasoning?

lol. I was wondering who the first person to call him out would be.

keep in mind this is someone who once argued over, and over, and over... that Shirley only ever collected soft, cheap possessions off the half back flank. so a grain of salt is required...

 

[Alex99]

lol. I was wondering who the first person to call him out would be.

keep in mind this is someone who once argued over, and over, and over... that Shirley only ever collected soft, cheap possessions off the half back flank. so a grain of salt is required...

And yet you get so much solace in winning a petty argument.

 

[Crow-mo]

And yet you get so much solace in winning a petty argument.

I'm glad to see you finally concede, what was a stupid, stupid thing to say.

wrong is different to stupid.

 

[jenny61_99]

This is not about Robert Shirley, this is about the position he plays on the field. I don’t like taggers and don’t believe there is a place for them in any side. IMO his offensive skills don’t demand a place in the side and won’t acknowledge any good work a negative tagger does.

You may not think taggers have a place in the game, but you've heard Chris Judd say his best opponent is a tagger. This is one of the best midfielders of the game C98, not just any old player. And he didn't talk about just any tagger - but our tagger.

I understand what you are saying that a tagger needs to be flexible and not just play the one role (that of tagging). In fact, Neil Craig demands that of all his players (flexibility) which is why you see VB and Reilly playing from defence as well as midfield ATM. You could argue that Shirley lost his spot this year because of this lack of flexibility. However, you need to understand, that he must be doing everything the coach is asking of him, or he wouldn't still be there. Our injuries aren't so dyer that we "have" to play him. He's there because he's earned a spot - and he's done enough IMO, to retain it.

 

[Coopers]

OMG, you sound like my wife when I piss her off. That's worrying, 'cos she's usually right.

Are you crazy! You never admit that in public!

She'll find out!

You're done for! RUN!