Toast Chris Scott

[G0ther00s]

Something like this ?

Appreciate it mate but was hoping for slightly better quality. I did a lot of google searches and nothing turned up so decided to search footy show footage. Was able to find an interview with him where they showed it, http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/scott-hopeful-in-clash-of-the-undefeated/xqnbab1
I've taken a photo of that. I appreciate that you took the time to help me out though, thanks very much.

 

[Moggy]

I've taken a photo of that. I appreciate that you took the time to help me out though, thanks very much.

That one is hilarious!

 

[jim boy]

I just wonder how Scott would have handled life at Melbourne.

They'd still be shit and Chris would be under severe pressure. This isn't a criticism of CS, but a reflection on the footy department at Melbourne. The days of a teams performance being wholly dependent on the players on the field and the coach are long gone. A modern senior coach is becoming less and less hands on and more about managing. Managing the players, managing the coaches, identifying deficiencies, implementing new techniques. Things like making sure that your opposition analysis is being done correctly and that lessons are being learnt. Melbourhne is sorely deficient in these areas and they are sorely deficient in onfield leadership. That club is a basketcase and it wouldn't matter who the coach is.

 

[year of the cat]

They'd still be shit and Chris would be under severe pressure. This isn't a criticism of CS, but a reflection on the footy department at Melbourne. The days of a teams performance being wholly dependent on the players on the field and the coach are long gone. A modern senior coach is becoming less and less hands on and more about managing. Managing the players, managing the coaches, identifying deficiencies, implementing new techniques. Things like making sure that your opposition analysis is being done correctly and that lessons are being learnt. Melbourhne is sorely deficient in these areas and they are sorely deficient in onfield leadership. That club is a basketcase and it wouldn't matter who the coach is.

Tend to agree with this. I found G.Lyon's comments interesting on Monday when he said something along the lines of "If they don't sack Neeld now, and they start to improve their performance and win a few games, what are they going to do?". I would have thought that the answer to that would be pretty obvious. Really is amateur hour down at the Demons.

 

[Partridge]

They'd still be shit and Chris would be under severe pressure. This isn't a criticism of CS, but a reflection on the footy department at Melbourne. The days of a teams performance being wholly dependent on the players on the field and the coach are long gone. A modern senior coach is becoming less and less hands on and more about managing. Managing the players, managing the coaches, identifying deficiencies, implementing new techniques. Things like making sure that your opposition analysis is being done correctly and that lessons are being learnt. Melbourhne is sorely deficient in these areas and they are sorely deficient in onfield leadership. That club is a basketcase and it wouldn't matter who the coach is.

The whole way Neeld was hired typifies this. As long as people like Lyon have any influence at all on how the club is run - this is someone who holds no official position, but again because of how ex-footballers are revered he's treated as an expert - they're not going to get better.

It's simple, clear accountability. Neeld runs the team. Picks the assistant coaches, players, game style, it's all down to him. If Lyon pops up and says someone should be appointed (no doubt on his recommendation, again), I'd ask what qualifications he has to do that? What position he holds at the club. The longer Melbourne listen to people like him, the longer they'll be in trouble.

 

[Partridge]

Tend to agree with this. I found G.Lyon's comments interesting on Monday when he said something along the lines of "If they don't sack Neeld now, and they start to improve their performance and win a few games, what are they going to do?". I would have thought that the answer to that would be pretty obvious. Really is amateur hour down at the Demons.

Did he say that? Speaks volumes about his ego and how much he really loves the club.

If I was a Melbourne fan, and they started playing better under Neeld, gee, I might actually be happy. Might actually think it's a sign of improvement. Look at Richmond, Hardwick has copped it non-stop since he arrived, even though like Neeld he's trying to undo horrible, horrible damage done by two incompetent predecessors (Frawley and Wallace). Are they going to win the flag this year? No. Are they going to finish top four? Probably not. But they are clearly a much better team. It certainly hasn't been painless or easy. Rebuilding never is. It wasn't for us either.

Patience. The one quality never found at footy clubs, and certainly not in the media. Hypocrisy and ego are common, but common sense is in short supply. Neeld still needs a lot more time.

 

[Hood007]

Patience. The one quality never found at footy clubs, and certainly not in the media. Hypocrisy and ego are common, but common sense is in short supply. Neeld still needs a lot more time.

I'm pretty sure Garry was talking in support of Neeld though.
Hutchy said that if Neeld didn't get sacked now it'd definitley be at the end of the year and Gaz said (i'm paraphrasing) "what if they start winning games, they can't sack him then" sort of thing...

Totally agree with the patience aspect though. I think the big what if is the situation with Bomber at the end of '06.
Plenty wanted him gone...

It's even worse in American sports.

 

[year of the cat]

I'm pretty sure Garry was talking in support of Neeld though.
Hutchy said that if Neeld didn't get sacked now it'd definitley be at the end of the year and Gaz said (i'm paraphrasing) "what if they start winning games, they can't sack him then" sort of thing...

Totally agree with the patience aspect though. I think the big what if is the situation with Bomber at the end of '06.
Plenty wanted him gone...

It's even worse in American sports.

I listened to it yesterday on radio - they replayed it on SEN as they thought the comments to be strange though I do concede that selective editing may have made it appear worse than it did.

 

[Hood007]

I listened to it yesterday on radio - they replayed it on SEN as they thought the comments to be strange though I do concede that selective editing may have made it appear worse than it did.

Yeah that can happen.
I watched it and it came across as if he was defending Neeld...
He's always been pretty staunch in his defense of the Demons though. Partly cause he played for them and partly cause he's helped choose the last 2 coaches...

 

[year of the cat]

Yeah that can happen.
I watched it and I thought he was in defending Neeld's...
He's always been pretty staunch in his defense of the Demons though. Partly cause he played for them and partly cause he's helped choose the last 2 coaches...

I must say though the intonation in his voice makes it strange even if he was trying to support Neeld. It was as if he would be disappointed if they were left in a position where they couldn't sack him. I see it as slightly Freudian.

 

[CatAttack84]

I'll always love Bomber for the years of service he gave, and that he stuck it out the hard way like so many other coaches have to fight so hard. At the end of 2006 I thought the review on him was harsh, but all clubs in such a position have to have those discussions. Hardwick from the Tigers is another who's always questioned but I admire his determination that he knows where he is going, and just needs support. Granted the Tigers to me are still not top 8 material despite their big Monday win in WA, I would love to see him rewarded as a coach for the shit he's copped for years.

That said when Bomber called it quits I wasn't angry, because I felt if his heart isn't in it, by all means go. We need people who WANT to be here, especially as we had just lost Ablett etc. There was a bit of hypocrisy about it though.
I assumed Sando would take over, and was both excited and concerned by it. Excited for a zillion obvious reasons, but concerned because I felt we still needed a new opinion from the outside. Enter Chris Scott.

I knew next to nothing about him or his brother outside their days as players. I had TOTAL faith in those appointing our next coach, and thought let's wait and see how this goes. I felt the same way as Daniel Craig as Bond. People went nuts. I sat there and said, no let's see how he goes, then judge him. Well, he's pretty f'n awesome isn't he?

Our first game against the Saints, won with Milburn's late kick, as I watched the game and watch his reactions throughout, his emotion, and then at the end of the game on the field I looked at my Dad next to me and said "we've got a winner here". I didn't need him to win the 2011 flag, had we not won it or made the GF I still wouldn't change my opinion. Granted my opinion feels more validated thanks to it, but that pure self involvement in the game and reactions just showed someone with so much love for the game and the investment needed. That and his blood as many kids as possible policy, just makes sense. One could argue having seen first hand his coach Matthews do the opposite of this at Brisbane, leading to their massive downfall, he likely sat there thinking, I don't ever want to make that mistake, especially with everyone calling us slow in 2010.

I'm waffling here a little, but yeah in short, he's going to be with us for a while, hopefully a Sheedy-era while, without space alien references, etc..

 

[Hood007]

I must say though the intonation in his voice makes it strange even if he was trying to support Neeld. It was as if he would be disappointed if they were left in a position where they couldn't sack him. I see it as slightly Freudian.

In the radio snippet or on the show?
Maybe it's cause he was arguing with Hutchy..?

 

[year of the cat]

In the radio snippet or on the show?
Maybe it's cause he was arguing with Hutchy..?

The radio snippet so again my impression may be skewed.

 

[Vdubs]

I have always loved CS at interviews, very measured and assured, leaves nothing that you could can him for, BUT yesterday's interview IMO, was appalling.
Hope he doesn't get what he "almost" wished for; the comment about he'd almost prefer to lose a couple more and play good footy as opposed to winning the way we have. Last year we were always catching up, and finished outside top 4.
2 losses more this year could put us 5th. Maybe he thinks we deserve that. Anyway, first comment of his that for me was > cringeworthy.
Wonder how Neeld, Sheedy and Watters reacted to that.

 

[Catsace]

I have always loved CS at interviews, very measured and assured, leaves nothing that you could can him for, BUT yesterday's interview IMO, was appalling.
Hope he doesn't get what he "almost" wished for; the comment about he'd almost prefer to lose a couple more and play good footy as opposed to winning the way we have. Last year we were always catching up, and finished outside top 4.
2 losses more this year could put us 5th. Maybe he thinks we deserve that. Anyway, first comment of his that for me was > cringeworthy.
Wonder how Neeld, Sheedy and Watters reacted to that.

Agree.....it was replayed on 'After the Bounce' tonight, and certainly one thing that CS might re-think is wishing we'd lost a couple more games. Think he (and the players) really know how much they all dislike losing, and their performances this year in fighting back from deficits and nosing out the opposition in all but one occasion makes that comment seem rather odd at best. It's probably frustrating to see the side play a bit in fits and starts, but in all fairness to power home with one on the bench was still a pretty fair effort. Geelong has only had a dozen losses in CS's tenure to go with 47 wins, so i am sure all cat fans and Chris would much prefer to keep winning, and learning from that. After all, if defeats were 'Learning experiences' then the Dees would be Rhodes scholars!

 

[footscore]

Scotty would have made that comment knowing full well the media would circle in and run with it.
He's got a terrific poker face, very rarely will he give you honest answers and he knows exactly how to work the media.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

I reckon Geelong hit the jackpot big time when they got Chris Scott

All the obvious stuff -the premiership (when most thought the era was over)-how hes brought in so many new young players etc etc -and doesnt seem to have an ego at all -which is refreshing

Compare that to Stkilda - Scott Watters -some of the things he has said -1st thing he said was he was a defence orientated coach - god help StKilda - late last season he said they feared no one -and soon would become a juggernaut !!!

Scott is as street smart as you can get -and i reckon internally-as ruthless as you can get -for team success. Hes consistently said -that Leigh Mathews his coach at Brisbane -was the person he most admired -and what hes based his approach on

Heard Crackers Keenan (spent some time at Collingwood with Mathews) half jokingly say once- that Mathews was that hard and Ruthless -that if there was a dead body on a footpath -hed walk straight over the top of it.

 

[catters05]

I enjoyed when he gave the boys a spray.....one of the first times?

 

[CatAttack84]

I enjoyed when he gave the boys a spray.....one of the first times?

Publicly yes. I loved the "WEAK AS PISS!" end, because let's be honest, it was fair and deserved.
Let's hope he isn't given reasons to do it again for a while.

 

[Son_Of_God29]

Has anybody got footage of the spray would have to be one of the best delivered to a Geelong side in a very long time

 

[oozeboss]

Has anybody got footage of the spray would have to be one of the best delivered to a Geelong side in a very long time

Off the club website:

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/video/2013-06-08/scott-sprays-the-cats

 

[Son_Of_God29]

Off the club website:

http://www.geelongcats.com.au/video/2013-06-08/scott-sprays-the-cats

cheers boss

 

[rocker_oz33]

I enjoyed the spray too.

 

[Partridge]

I have always loved CS at interviews, very measured and assured, leaves nothing that you could can him for, BUT yesterday's interview IMO, was appalling.
Hope he doesn't get what he "almost" wished for; the comment about he'd almost prefer to lose a couple more and play good footy as opposed to winning the way we have. Last year we were always catching up, and finished outside top 4.
2 losses more this year could put us 5th. Maybe he thinks we deserve that. Anyway, first comment of his that for me was > cringeworthy.
Wonder how Neeld, Sheedy and Watters reacted to that.

Not to mention that as good as the last few years have been, we haven't turned for home 10-1 too often. 13-0 to start in 2009 and 2011, 10-1 in 2008........any other seasons people can recall when we were 10-1 outside of that? I can't.

 

[Emperor66669]

This form won't win Cats flag - Scott

http://www.geelongadvertiser.com.au/article/2013/06/10/366844_gfc.html