Roast Chris Tarrant is a Prick

[Selggad]

By saying he would only go to Collingwood Tarrant and his manger put Freo over a barrel. He was no longer a tradable player who we could work with to achieve a good result for both parties but someone who restricted his value to anyone else, effectively walking out on the club that ressurrected his career for no return. If he was still playing as a forward with the yips he wouldn't have been going anywhere at the end of this season , that's for sure.

His carreer was over until Freo swung him into the backline. His return to us was the big finger and a pack of lies (I want to get the best result for the club). That is why people are so pissed off.

 

[nipper]

By saying he would only go to Collingwood Tarrant and his manger put Freo over a barrel. He was no longer a tradable player who we could work with to achieve a good result for both parties but someone who restricted his value to anyone else, effectively walking out on the club that ressurrected his career for no return. If he was still playing as a forward with the yips he wouldn't have been going anywhere at the end of this season , that's for sure.

His carreer was over until Freo swung him into the backline. His return to us was the big finger and a pack of lies (I want to get the best result for the club). That is why people are so pissed off.

No Harvey put Freo over a barrel, Chris did have other options but Collingwood wanted him.A number of great trades were put on the table, Harvey would not negotiate, so it came down to trade or he will retire??It was the only way to get Harvey to trade.Harvey nearly blew it.many things hidden mate

 

[Selggad]

No Harvey put Freo over a barrel, Chris did have other options but Collingwood wanted him.A number of great trades were put on the table, Harvey would not negotiate, so it came down to trade or he will retire??It was the only way to get Harvey to trade.Harvey nearly blew it.many things hidden mate

You'll have to provide a bit of evidence for that call. Tarrant is on the record as saying he would only go to Collingwood. Your saying Harvey rejected multiple different possibilities for Tarrant and wouldn't negotiate. How could he negotiate when a player says he will only go to one club? Not much aof a negotiating position, if you ask me.

 

[nipper]

You'll have to provide a bit of evidence for that call. Tarrant is on the record as saying he would only go to Collingwood. Your saying Harvey rejected multiple different possibilities for Tarrant and wouldn't negotiate. How could he negotiate when a player says he will only go to one club? Not much aof a negotiating position, if you ask me.

There was Hawthorn & Carlton on the table as well.It only became one club when Collingwood really wanted him.. Either way, so what if it was just Collingwood, Why on earth would a team not want to trade with a Premiership team/players?? We just have different points of view, however I think calling Chris a prick is unfair.

 

[Paddywhackers]

You also have to remember,

Money wasn't the motivating factor. He loves Collingwood, and wanted to play along side his mates again. He also offered Freo good service during his time there.

He also seems like a top bloke in the interviews I have seen of him.

 

[Selggad]

I think the point both you blokes are missing is that Tarrant said it was either Collingwood or he would retire. Tarrant was not willing to go to Hawthorn or Carlton. He would not accept their offers. And of course Collingwood would be keen once Tarrant made it clear he wasn't going to go anywhere else. Having a spare defender of his calibre up you're sleeve is pretty handy. However, Freo had NO bargaining position. We had to take whatever Collingwood would give us. Freo was given no options. Harvey (actually it would have been Bond and the trading team) could not negotiate. This was actually a fairly blatant case of draft manipulation by Tarrant and his manager.

The reality is that Tarrant and his manager, by making explicit statements about where he wouldanad would not go

i) maniulated the trade process, &
ii) placed in Freo in a weak position to gain any compensation through the trade process

 

[HFF]

This was actually a fairly blatant case of draft manipulation by Tarrant and his manager.

The reality is that Tarrant and his manager, by making explicit statements about where he wouldanad would not go

i) maniulated the trade process, &
ii) placed in Freo in a weak position to gain any compensation through the trade process

Why is it the player's fault for only wanting to join one club? Why should the player make himself "available" to all potentially interested parties just to appease his soon to be departing employer? Think about it logically. It's not about his parting club, rather what is best for the individual.

Also, you call "draft manipulation", yet you overlook just how you snared McPhee in the previous PSD. Why did the Dockers wait until trade week had concluded before showing any interest in McPhee? Why didn't they table an offer or at least declare their interest during trade week? Perhaps then, the Bombers could have got SOMETHING in return for a player they were about to lose for NOTHING. It's basically smart negotiating and use of the system in place to strengthen your bargaining power- something Freo (like everyone else would have done) did and something Collingwood did with Tarrant.

At the end of the day, the system is what it is and the Tarrant deal was sealed and structured within the rules.

 

[DockerLand1]

Why is it the player's fault for only wanting to join one club? Why should the player make himself "available" to all potentially interested parties just to appease his soon to be departing employer? Think about it logically. It's not about his parting club, rather what is best for the individual.

Also, you call "draft manipulation", yet you overlook just how you snared McPhee in the previous PSD. Why did the Dockers wait until trade week had concluded before showing any interest in McPhee? Why didn't they table an offer or at least declare their interest during trade week? Perhaps then, the Bombers could have got SOMETHING in return for a player they were about to lose for NOTHING. It's basically smart negotiating and use of the system in place to strengthen your bargaining power- something Freo (like everyone else would have done) did and something Collingwood did with Tarrant.

At the end of the day, the system is what it is and the Tarrant deal was sealed and structured within the rules.

We snared McPhee in the PSD by making him a better offer than the Dons. Just like we are going to do with John Anthony from the Pies.Tarrant on the other hand with the help of his DOG manager threatened to enter the draft (So Freo got nothing ) and then if any other club picked him up he would retire.

Not alike at all and I still dont know how the AFL overlooked this as Draft Manipulation I dont know what is. KB on SEN agrees but it is thought that they are just trying to get through to free agency without creating a fuss.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

We snared McPhee in the PSD by making him a better offer than the Dons. Just like we are going to do with John Anthony from the Pies.Tarrant on the other hand with the help of his DOG manager threatened to enter the draft (So Freo got nothing ) and then if any other club picked him up he would retire.

Not alike at all and I still dont know how the AFL overlooked this as Draft Manipulation I dont know what is. KB on SEN agrees but it is thought that they are just trying to get through to free agency without creating a fuss.

i agree with all of this. the only reason he wasnt sanctioned for draft manipulation is because he renegged on his "collingwood or retire" statement when he realised that it was clear cut draft manipulation, and that the afl would have drilled him for it

 

[Freo2012]

i agree with all of this. the only reason he wasnt sanctioned for draft manipulation is because he renegged on his "collingwood or retire" statement when he realised that it was clear cut draft manipulation, and that the afl would have drilled him for it

Agree also. But it was all part of the Dog Tarrant and his Dog manager's plans - they were clearly in breach of the draft manipulation rules, yet played it that way on purpose knowing the AFL would do little or nothing.

The AFL did warn them during trade week but Tarrant only retracted his blatant rule breaking requirement when trade period was almost over and only once Hawthorn and Carlton had already done their revised deals. Thus Tarrant and his manager knowing it was too late for anything to be negotiated by them for Tarrant. Tarrant and his manager got exactly what they wanted.

Tarrant is an absolute DOG that has no respect at all for Freo, or what they did for his career.

The question is now what dedicated Freo supporters can do against Tarrant when he plays AFL next year, and at any other time possible - he deserves serious retribution. But "legally" of course

If something did happen, eg at a pub and getting a foot raking down the back of his knee with serious pressure from behind (full knee reco req'd), he wouldn't be the first that sort of thing has happened to. The question is how much does he deserve it, hmmmmmm.

 

[Selggad]

Why is it the player's fault for only wanting to join one club? Why should the player make himself "available" to all potentially interested parties just to appease his soon to be departing employer? Think about it logically. It's not about his parting club, rather what is best for the individual.

Good point. I'd like to suggest that from now on we get rid of the draft system as well and players simply nominate which club they want to play for.

 

[Deep_Purple]

A number of great trades were put on the table, Harvey would not negotiate, so it came down to trade or he will retire??It was the only way to get Harvey to trade.Harvey nearly blew it.many things hidden mate

You seem to be in the know! Exactly what offers were put on the table?, Not including BS rumours and people imaginations of what happened.

 

[estibador]

If something did happen, eg at a pub and getting a foot raking down the back of his knee with serious pressure from behind (full knee reco req'd), he wouldn't be the first that sort of thing has happened to.

He wouldn't? Wow... and I thought I took my footy seriously...

 

[smiddaz123]

Good point. I'd like to suggest that from now on we get rid of the draft system as well and players simply nominate which club they want to play for.

FWIW I think some draftees do make it clear if they don't want to be drafted a certain club. I'm fairly sure Rioli made it obvious he didn't want to move to Adelaide, and I think it was pretty common knowledge that Naitanui wanted to stay in WA.

I agree with you guys that threatening to retire was a pretty dodgy act from Tarrant and his manager, but apart from that I think it all went down ok. If he doesn't feel he can be a committed player to a certain club, he should make that clear to them before they use a pick on him. It'd be poorer form to say nothing and turn up to the club with a lazy attitude that they weren't expecting. Saying he won't actually honour the contract is another story altogether though, obviously.

 

[DockerLand1]

FWIW I think some draftees do make it clear if they don't want to be drafted a certain club. I'm fairly sure Rioli made it obvious he didn't want to move to Adelaide, and I think it was pretty common knowledge that Naitanui wanted to stay in WA.

I agree with you guys that threatening to retire was a pretty dodgy act from Tarrant and his manager, but apart from that I think it all went down ok. If he doesn't feel he can be a committed player to a certain club, he should make that clear to them before they use a pick on him. It'd be poorer form to say nothing and turn up to the club with a lazy attitude that they weren't expecting. Saying he won't actually honour the contract is another story altogether though, obviously.

Of course you feel that it went down Ok. You got what is potentially an All Australian full back when there is a tremendous shortage around for Pick 55 and the swapping of picks 44 for 43. Both Carlton and the Hawks (Both Desperate for a Key Position full back) would have done a LOT better than that AND most likely included a player.

IF JA comes our way via the PSD then I think even up a bit. However I DONT think that you realize how good a player that Taz had become and how important his was at Fremantle.

 

[smiddaz123]

Of course you feel that it went down Ok. You got what is potentially an All Australian full back when there is a tremendous shortage around for Pick 55 and the swapping of picks 44 for 43. Both Carlton and the Hawks (Both Desperate for a Key Position full back) would have done a LOT better than that AND most likely included a player.

IF JA comes our way via the PSD then I think even up a bit. However I DONT think that you realize how good a player that Taz had become and how important his was at Fremantle.

How good he was isn't really that relevant to whether what he did was right or wrong is it? I completely realise how good Tarrant had become, but like I said, that has nothing to do with whether he acted right or wrong.

Would you consider it better from Tarrant to say nothing, and then when traded to Hawthorn or Carlton for a reasonably good price, they get to find out he isn't even committed to them? It's completely fair enough for him to let any potential employer that he may not be committed to them. Like I said, saying he'd refuse to honour a contract was too far, but apart from that, it was fair game.

 

[DockerLand1]

How good he was isn't really that relevant to whether what he did was right or wrong is it? I completely realise how good Tarrant had become, but like I said, that has nothing to do with whether he acted right or wrong.

Would you consider it better from Tarrant to say nothing, and then when traded to Hawthorn or Carlton for a reasonably good price, they get to find out he isn't even committed to them? It's completely fair enough for him to let any potential employer that he may not be committed to them. Like I said, saying he'd refuse to honour a contract was too far, but apart from that, it was fair game.

You are forgetting the most important part. Tarrant and his manager THREATENED that if he did not get the trade to the Pies that he would go into the National Draft. Where, you must go to any club that selects you. You dont get to change your mind. Tarrant said that if anyone but the Pies drafted him then he would retire. That is draft manipulation . Pure and simple.

When you nominate for the draft the rules are clear that you must go to ANY club. You do not get to pick and choose. Tarrant said that he would do the right thing by Fremantle and he and his manager screwed us. Collingwood did nothing but screw us just as hard by waiting so long in the period that all other chances of him going to another club (The Blues and Hawks were dying to get him) had expired. Fremantle did everything to get Taz what he wanted.

I can tell you this, his DOG of a manager had better not come close to Fremantle again or half the fans and Harvey will KO his dirty ass. Taz is going to get a very Hot welcome back to Fremantle in 2011. His act of pure selfishness soured what could have been a good stint at Fremantle. For all those from the Pies that think he gave us 4 years of good service. You are wrong, he gave us 2 years of poor service when he played forward and 1 and 1/2 years (due to injury) of excellent service in the backline.

Taz was one of our highest paid players and he should always be grateful that Fremantle and especially Harvey gave him an excellent chance to resurrect his flat lining career. Taz is the one who treated Fremantle with contempt by his and his manager’s actions. I hope that pick 55 that we got from you turns out to be a Fremantle player that wins not only the Brownlow but the Norm Smith medal for the mighty Dockers!

 

[HFF]

Of course you feel that it went down Ok. You got what is potentially an All Australian full back when there is a tremendous shortage around for Pick 55 and the swapping of picks 44 for 43. Both Carlton and the Hawks (Both Desperate for a Key Position full back) would have done a LOT better than that AND most likely included a player.

IF JA comes our way via the PSD then I think even up a bit. However I DONT think that you realize how good a player that Taz had become and how important his was at Fremantle.

We know exactly what we are getting with Taz. After all, he did spend nine years with us. We'd know him better than anyone.

As for JA, I don't think many Freo fans realise what they are possibly getting with him. He is far too good to be a "depth" player and play in the twos. He'd walk straight into your best 22.

Good point. I'd like to suggest that from now on we get rid of the draft system as well and players simply nominate which club they want to play for.

The rules are clear. As a junior, you are subjected to the uncertainty of the draft. Once you are already in the system though, the balance of power changes and the player can somewhat control his future. It's the way it is.

 

[paul8241]

How good he was isn't really that relevant to whether what he did was right or wrong is it? I completely realise how good Tarrant had become, but like I said, that has nothing to do with whether he acted right or wrong.

Would you consider it better from Tarrant to say nothing, and then when traded to Hawthorn or Carlton for a reasonably good price, they get to find out he isn't even committed to them? It's completely fair enough for him to let any potential employer that he may not be committed to them. Like I said, saying he'd refuse to honour a contract was too far, but apart from that, it was fair game.

He had told Freo he wanted to go to Collingwood, they had agreed to deal exclusively with Collingwood on his behalf.

Once Collingwood were aware (If not directly, courtesy of Tarrant and his manager, when the other clubs were warned off) that no other deal would be entertained, any pick in the first or second round was off limits. When there was zero risk Collingwood would not get their man, they just had to offer up a pick that would be lower than the pick they would be prepared to part with in the ND to prevent another team gambling on him. That low pick was #55. They would have had to drop #43 on him in the ND if the deal had fallen through. That said, they would still have considered him much more valuable than #43. This deal had everything bar proof of a team and player management deliberately chasing off any interest to prevent paying fair value for his services.

They had enough reason to want him, in that his payments after year 1 would be veterans list, they are in the premiership window, and that he has been playing in AA form for 2 years when on the field.

Coming in here and saying Tarrant and his Manager did not act outside the rules, or that Collingwood offered Freo anything close to a fair deal is just BS.

 

[paul8241]

The fact that Anthony walked out on Collingwood for zero is just Karma.

If he wants to come here, I'm all for it. Had a deal been done at the trade table we would not be confident that he would be anything other than another boomerang.

 

[HFF]

The fact that Anthony walked out on Collingwood for zero is just Karma.

No, it only feels like karma on your behalf.

Collingwood people have accepted that this is the new nature of AFL footy. You'll win some and you'll lose some. It's the way the system is. No need to remain angry and bitter over it. Clearly you still haven't let the Tarrant saga go, hence the karma comments.

I wish Jack all the best and certainly won't call him a "PRICK" or wish him to break a leg.

 

[Rob]

Would you consider it better from Tarrant to say nothing, and then when traded to Hawthorn or Carlton for a reasonably good price, they get to find out he isn't even committed to them? It's completely fair enough for him to let any potential employer that he may not be committed to them. Like I said, saying he'd refuse to honour a contract was too far, but apart from that, it was fair game.

WTF? Why wouldn't he be just as committed to Hawthorn or Carlton than Collingwood? He's supposed to be a professional footballer FFS. If his personality is that flaky then I wouldn't hold out much hope that he's suddenly going to find the motivation simply because he's wearing black and white.

 

[HFF]

WTF? Why wouldn't he be just as committed to Hawthorn or Carlton than Collingwood? He's supposed to be a professional footballer FFS. If his personality is that flaky then I wouldn't hold out much hope that he's suddenly going to find the motivation simply because he's wearing black and white.

"Professional footballer" is just a title for the players daily occupation.

Would you be willing to work for an employer you do not want to just because you are seen as a "professional?"

You are looking at things through the eyes of a supporter rather than through the eyes of an employee deciding on his future.

 

[leeloo]

No, it only feels like karma on your behalf.

Collingwood people have accepted that this is the new nature of AFL footy. You'll win some and you'll lose some. It's the way the system is. No need to remain angry and bitter over it. Clearly you still haven't let the Tarrant saga go, hence the karma comments.

I wish Jack all the best and certainly won't call him a "PRICK" or wish him to break a leg.

Have you read your own board??? Most on there have turned on him quite quick, and yes apparently he is now a hack.

 

[Deep_Purple]

Tarrant did what he thought was best for him, Collingwood did what they thought was best for them, Freo got screwed, but we will screw other teams too when players want to come home, it WILL happen, we just need to realise that, let go, and get on with it (we won't forget it because what comes around comes around).

Unfortunately modern football is a business and players get a business mentality, there are some players still around who are clubmen and have moral fibre, but they are getting thin. Look at the difference between Ablett and Pav. Ablett went for the money over his club. Pav sees freo as HIS club, is a one club man, Pav will make as much money as Ablett because of his endorsements and adds based on his reputation. Who wants to listen to Ablett, no one in Qld knows him and no one in Geelong will listen to him.

Ablett is the way modern football is going, I don't like it, its not the game I grew up following, Pav is a breath of fresh air.