Coaching Changes - 2015

[NUFC Tiger]

Ross Smith and Truck Rutten deserve shout outs for their impressive work with the defence this year. First year as a coach for Rutten as well wasn't it?

 

[TigerImposter]

Lol Im 52 as of last Sunday, so stop being a little tosser, Ive been a Tiger supporter since 69/70, so have seen what it takes and one thing I know is whinging supporters like you we can do without.

Ross Lyon, what a crazy idea, the man has won nothing while other clubs that won flags against his teams are still competing for flags his old team St Kilda has won a spoon since he left them in such bad shape.

You carry on about honorable losses and then say we should get Lyon, the King of honorable losses, now go away and have a think about it and come back when you have something useful too add to the discussion

you obviously have learnt very little watching the game since 69 bro if you think this team is tracking fine under DH and would not step up under the professionalism of SRL.I always lose respect for a poster when the personal uneducated remarks come out.Really for someone from my generation i expected a bit more. StKilda won a spoon bc they had a team full of ageing guns basically all on the cusp of being able to offer very little barring a few.
They also had Goddard NickDal and others trying to milk them and were moved on.
it happens with all clubs that are up for a while if you haven't noticed over the years ,it's just been about 33 with the rfc.
This line shows your level of decency and ability to comprehend a discussion'"one thing I know is whinging supporters like you we can do without".
I'm not a whinger bc I've hung in there and i'm asking for better and not lying down like Livos avatar asking to be exploited all the time.What is wrong for demanding for better?So leave me alone and go and dream of flags bc thats what your level of expectation is

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

Ross Smith and Truck Rutten deserve shout outs for their impressive work with the defence this year. First year as a coach for Rutten as well wasn't it?

yup, poached him right as he retired too

 

[UpTheGuts]

Ross Smith and Truck Rutten deserve shout outs for their impressive work with the defence this year. First year as a coach for Rutten as well wasn't it?

Absolutely. Can't be a good defender if your mids are slack (ours weren't, after 2-4 and before EF) but Rutten must have been a big factor. Straight in as a kind coach, too

An asset

 

[Tiger2709]

you obviously have learnt very little watching the game since 69 bro if you think this team is tracking fine under DH and would not step up under the professionalism of SRL.I always lose respect for a poster when the personal uneducated remarks come out.Really for someone from my generation i expected a bit more. StKilda won a spoon bc they had a team full of ageing guns basically all on the cusp of being able to offer very little barring a few.
They also had Goddard NickDal and others trying to milk them and were moved on.
it happens with all clubs that are up for a while if you haven't noticed over the years ,it's just been about 33 with the rfc.
This line shows your level of decency and ability to comprehend a discussion'"one thing I know is whinging supporters like you we can do without".
I'm not a whinger bc I've hung in there and i'm asking for better and not lying down like Livos avatar asking to be exploited all the time.What is wrong for demanding for better?So leave me alone and go and dream of flags bc thats what your level of expectation is

You need to review your post to me before carrying on about my reply.

Richmond can and does beat Freo so what is this proffesionalism your on about its not any better than ours?
Its Lyons gameplan that's the issue, yes he is a good coach but its not the style of game that wins flags, now DH may not be the answer but if were going to throw the kitchen sink at somone make sure that someone is of the Clarkson mould, so far Lyon appears to be inflexible in his approach he knows how to get the horse to the water but not how to get it to drink.

I think your personal dislike of DH clouds your judgement on what he has achieved, it is far more than you think and if we were to get rid of him it had better be for someone that can win us a flag not a runners up medal.

 

[TigerImposter]

You need to review your post to me before carrying on about my reply.

Richmond can and does beat Freo so what is this proffesionalism your on about its not any better than ours?
Its Lyons gameplan that's the issue, yes he is a good coach but its not the style of game that wins flags, now DH may not be the answer but if were going to throw the kitchen sink at somone make sure that someone is of the Clarkson mould, so far Lyon appears to be inflexible in his approach he knows how to get the horse to the water but not how to get it to drink.

I think your personal dislike of DH clouds your judgement on what he has achieved, it is far more than you think and if we were to get rid of him it had better be for someone that can win us a flag not a runners up medal.

No personal dislike as i've never met the dude.again just you making personal judgments.
i base my assessment on DH based on his performance(or lack of) since 2012 nothing personal.
Lyon has a less credentialed side than us achieving greater results,this is where you've missed the point.
Keep going though and continue to spill out the dribble of excuses we get year by year

 

[Catscratch]

Tim Clarke was a rubbish magoos coach, we should make a play for Andy Collins again who has a habit of doing something extraordinary with an ordinary list.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Lenny Hayes, midfield coach.

New strength and conditioning coach - apparently there's some bloke that used to work with Geelong when they were dominating that's apparently free now

New forwards coach. Buggered if I know who, but the Hawks and Weagles seem to punch out the goals, lets have a look at poaching one of theirs...

Comes complete with a dietician

 

[Tiger2709]

No personal dislike as i've never met the dude.again just you making personal judgments.
i base my assessment on DH based on his performance(or lack of) since 2012 nothing personal.
Lyon has a less credentialed side than us achieving greater results,this is where you've missed the point.
Keep going though and continue to spill out the dribble of excuses we get year by year

If only you knew something about what you're saying you might be interesting, unfortunately your a little immature to have a serious conversation with.

No need for another reply, I have better things to do than read your generally rude comments and misguided theories on football.

 

[TigerImposter]

If only you knew something about what you're saying you might be interesting, unfortunately your a little immature to have a serious conversation with.

No need for another reply, I have better things to do than read your generally rude comments and misguided theories on football.

You still haven't actually given me any reasons why DH is better than SRL. Justv more personal insults.
Last time i checked the archives DH still hadn't won a final .SRL says hi
so on that basis ,p155 off

 

[Tiger2709]

You still haven't actually given me any reasons why DH is better than SRL. Justv more personal insults.
Last time i checked the archives DH still hadn't won a final .SRL says hi
so on that basis ,p155 off

lol, you are a funny bloke, not one of your posts has gone by without personal insult, but that's neither here nor there I'm not on the Tiger board to make enemies and you're entitled to your own opinion as am I.

Ive not given a reason for DH being better than Lyon as its still up in the air as to who proves to be better, neither after all has won anything unless the minor Premiership is worth anything to anyone, getting to a GF is no good if your gameplan is not up to winning it and at this stage it's pretty obvious that Lyons gameplan is not the type that wins flags, therefore throwing large coin at Ross to replace DH would be silly IMO, if you were talking about Clarkson then yes go and get him but Ross, no thanks.

I'm not sure they Knight people when their greatest achievement is second place?

 

[TigerImposter]

lol, you are a funny bloke, not one of your posts has gone by without personal insult, but that's neither here nor there I'm not on the Tiger board to make enemies and you're entitled to your own opinion as am I.

Ive not given a reason for DH being better than Lyon as its still up in the air as to who proves to be better, neither after all has won anything unless the minor Premiership is worth anything to anyone, getting to a GF is no good if your gameplan is not up to winning it and at this stage it's pretty obvious that Lyons gameplan is not the type that wins flags, therefore throwing large coin at Ross to replace DH would be silly IMO, if you were talking about Clarkson then yes go and get him but Ross, no thanks.

I'm not sure they Knight people when their greatest achievement is second place?

where are the insults mate?
so we put good money after bad?

 

[theflea]

Watch how west coast handled the tag on shuey from Norf and compare it to us. They had everyone including Priddis providing blocks and help we had nothing.

Number 1 priority should be a midfield coach who comes from success and know how to break a tag but can also teach blokes how to tackle our game plan is ok in the regular season but too many blokes are soft as **** when push comes to shove and don't go hard enough at it and thus get found out when it comes to finals.

Also a new fitness coach would be nice

Not sure about that. Shuey had 11 p's compared to Cotch 9 p's. 1 of shuey's goals was a bull dust free, while the other one was great. He virtually had the same game. Also remember that with Nic Nat the eagles mids are more proactive with a great tap ruck in place.

 

[theflea]

the point is they had blokes helping and not shirking contests we need a midfield coach to teach them to be harder at the ball, break tags, help their mates break tags regardless if you are the reigning brownlow medalist or a 1st game player.

No doubt the players need to be harder, but he still didn't break the tag even with the harder and non shirking players.

 

[theflea]

Mate i'm old enough to know you're a kid with very little knowledge of the game.
remember the knights Daffy young cub days where all these flags were going to fall down from the sky and land on PRO????
SRL was so close to winning a flag it's not funny.Had he not had some player Kickett not boozing up and larking around the move would have paid off.
SRL would change the culture of the club in three weeks from a coaster to a professional hard working one.It's all about ethics. FMD DH is still learning according to him on SEN last week.He will never get us to be anything bc he hides behind excuses rather than trying solve our host of deficiencies which have been evident since 2012 the year the line "Honorable Losses" was woven.

You do realise Lyon said the exact same thing in his presser ie he has to get better. No different from the learning perspective.

 

[theflea]

No personal dislike as i've never met the dude.again just you making personal judgments.
i base my assessment on DH based on his performance(or lack of) since 2012 nothing personal.
Lyon has a less credentialed side than us achieving greater results,this is where you've missed the point.
Keep going though and continue to spill out the dribble of excuses we get year by year

Haha didn't you just do the same thing by saying he doesn't have a clue?

 

[Tiger2709]

where are the insults mate?
so we put good money after bad?

Started with rubbish like this "Mate i'm old enough to know you're a kid with very little knowledge of the game." or maybe in your world that's not an insult, I retaliated admittedly and on it went.

So tell me, in what way would our club want a coach who's only game plan is not only horribly defensive but is proven to fail when it counts the most, Id love him as a director or some such as I do like Ross's sense of humour and he can coach there's no doubt, but he is not a winner and maybe never will be, well at least unless he can adjust his game plan, much the same can be said about Dimma he needs to make changes the first being to get us to the top 4 so we don't have to worry about the mental aspect of playing yet another EF.

The difference I see with Dimma is that he has been involved in a lot more successful clubs/situations both playing and coaching than Lyon, so he does know what is required to win, again whether he can bring that as a senior coach remains to be seen, I just don't see the point in trading one of these two for the other, I would be setting my sights much higher, as I said if Clarkson is available the I'd ditch Dimma in the blink of an eye but until then it's better the Devil you know.

 

[Michaels]

Just got a text from a mate (who is a BF poster) saying Brent Montgomery is apparently coming across.

 

[theflea]

Just got a text from a mate (who is a BF poster) saying Brent Montgomery is apparently coming across.

Is that from Port?

 

[Michaels]

Is that from Port?

I think he is currently at the dogs as an assistant

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

Another player who played with Dimma and was coached by Chocco.

 

[TigerImposter]

Started with rubbish like this "Mate i'm old enough to know you're a kid with very little knowledge of the game." or maybe in your world that's not an insult, I retaliated admittedly and on it went.
.

No this is where it ALL started by you:

1.As for fitness he had a guy with a fractured leg running around on prelim day really smart move that one, this has to be one of the silliest ideas I have heard, if we want to get in a gun coach then throw everything we have at Hawthorns coach.

REALLY INTELLIGENT COMMENT BY YOU AS DH PLAYED TWO BLOKES WHO HADN'T PLAYED FOR OVER A MONTH

2.Not being rude but are you old enough to remember what getting there without winning it is like, there is no worse feeling.

Then i replied with the above statement.
You have a short memory young fella or you are a keyboard warrior who doesn't read what they type.So please take your bat and ball and leave me alone.
You have made no sense all day and added nothing that will make me change MO

 

[Tiger2709]

No this is where it ALL started by you:

1.As for fitness he had a guy with a fractured leg running around on prelim day really smart move that one, this has to be one of the silliest ideas I have heard, if we want to get in a gun coach then throw everything we have at Hawthorns coach.

REALLY INTELLIGENT COMMENT BY YOU AS DH PLAYED TWO BLOKES WHO HADN'T PLAYED FOR OVER A MONTH

2.Not being rude but are you old enough to remember what getting there without winning it is like, there is no worse feeling.

Then i replied with the above statement.
You have a short memory young fella or you are a keyboard warrior who doesn't read what they type.So please take your bat and ball and leave me alone.
You have made no sense all day and added nothing that will make me change MO

Honestly "mate", learn to lose the arrogance its misplaced, I might listen to what you have to say then.

You still haven't given a valid reason why we would want to swap our current coach for one that has won nothing as a player and was an apprentice under that terrible Paul Roos style that since the Swans 1 point win has proven to be a style that isn't great on GF day?

If you don't have a reason, don't bother responding, this is a discussion forum not a place for you or I to try and play who's got the biggest penis.

 

[Achilles Heel]

Just got a text from a mate (who is a BF poster) saying Brent Montgomery is apparently coming across.

Is he an inside mid?

 

[TigerImposter]

Aaaah

Honestly "mate", learn to lose the arrogance its misplaced, I might listen to what you have to say then.

You still haven't given a valid reason why we would want to swap our current coach for one that has won nothing as a player and was an apprentice under that terrible Paul Roos style that since the Swans 1 point win has proven to be a style that isn't great on GF day?

If you don't have a reason, don't bother responding, this is a discussion forum not a place for you or I to try and play who's got the biggest penis.

So I'm now arrogant according to you .another of your personal judgements
With the coaching issues aaaaaahhhhh bc we have achieved nothing to little in the last 3- 4 years.
Port ,west Coast, crows all have managed to win finals somewhere along the line.
I will tell you if you can be bothered go and check the ladders from 2009 onwards and take note of the teams around us. An astute observer like you will easily identify that Melbourne is still the prop. Although Roos has managed to still pull DH pants down
You will see we haven't really progressed
We need to overhaul the FD bc we now have a crop of guys who haven't achieved a finals win for up to 11 years
This is no about penis size mate it's about facts relating to rfc progress under this regime
Keep tossing the rfc spin out though