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just saw Gary Lyon and Ken Sheldon having coffee at Il Fornaio on Acland Street. the saints could be taking a gamble, remember tim watson:(
 
I would hope the club are talking to everyone that's interested - including Gary Lyon.

Tim Watson was promised the job before even making a presentation to the club. As long as they don't make that mistake again then I don't have a problem with them talking to Lyon.
 
Maybe there's an ulterior motive here.

The Saints might be doing a public service - they might demand that Lyon sever all his ties with the media so that he is free to coach....

then give the job to the REAL applicant. :)
 

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HAHA yeah, i definately cant stand him in the media...so i wouldnt be able to handle him coaching our team.


Seriously though...how can supporters actually like the idea of lyon coaching....i just dont get it.
 
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HAHA yeah, i definately cant stand him in the media...so i wouldnt be able to handle him coaching our team.


Seriously though...how can supporters actually like the idea of lyon coaching....i just dont get it.

Word.

Then maybe Mike Sheahan can get a job cleaning players boots. The world would be a better place then!
 
Mark Harvey has been approached, but I don't believe Rob Harvey has.
He certainly has the experience but I don't think he has indicated any interest.
 
Saints set to seek Roos
By Damian Barrett
October 02, 2006

ST Kilda this week will make its first formal contact with Sydney assistant coach John Longmire regarding the vacant head coaching position at the Saints, but only after a phone call is made to his boss at Sydney, Paul Roos.

Roos has been identified by the St Kilda coaching sub-committee as the blueprint for a modern coach.

St Kilda president Rod Butterss would not comment yesterday when asked about Roos, but it is known that he intends to follow up an informal call made last month by Saints chief executive Archie Fraser, a long-time friend of the Swans coach.

"Anyone who has the credentials to coach our club . . . we owe it to our supporters and we owe it to ourselves to at least make a call," Butterss said.

"When we announce who our next coach is, we need to be able to demonstrate it has been a very thorough process."

Geelong coach Mark Williams, Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse and Brisbane Lions coach Leigh Matthews have already been asked to consider being interviewed for the St Kilda position, left open after Thomas was sacked last month.

Longmire's interview with St Kilda this week will formalise an approach made on the Saints' behalf by a head-hunting firm in the week leading up to Thomas' final game.

Longmire told the firm he was interested in pursuing a senior role but would not talk officially until the completion of the Swans' finals campaign.

"It has been a source of frustration, but we were highly respectful that certain people, certain candidates, had their focus and their attention on their jobs at hand," Butterss said of St Kilda's inability to speak with Longmire.

"We wanted to be respectful of that. We are now free to operate in a much more direct way to get the job done."

Longmire said his contract with Sydney had expired after the grand final loss on Saturday.

"My main priority has been with the Swans, but that commitment has now ended," he said.

"I will worry about things when they come up."

Butterss said the Saints would not be rushed into naming Thomas's replacement.

"One of the things we chose not to do was to declare we would have it done by a certain day," Butterss said.

"We have quite a detailed program that will put each of the candidates through the wringer, and we are really keen to follow that.

"If that means some additional testing is required with respect to somebody's skill set or background, we have the time to do it.

"We are not under any pressure whatsoever."

As well as Longmire, high-profile media commentator Garry Lyon is considered a leading candidate for the job.
 
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Saints set to seek Roos
By Damian Barrett
October 02, 2006

ST Kilda this week will make its first formal contact with Sydney assistant coach John Longmire regarding the vacant head coaching position at the Saints, but only after a phone call is made to his boss at Sydney, Paul Roos.

Roos has been identified by the St Kilda coaching sub-committee as the blueprint for a modern coach.

St Kilda president Rod Butterss would not comment yesterday when asked about Roos, but it is known that he intends to follow up an informal call made last month by Saints chief executive Archie Fraser, a long-time friend of the Swans coach.

"Anyone who has the credentials to coach our club . . . we owe it to our supporters and we owe it to ourselves to at least make a call," Butterss said.

"When we announce who our next coach is, we need to be able to demonstrate it has been a very thorough process."

Geelong coach Mark Williams, Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse and Brisbane Lions coach Leigh Matthews have already been asked to consider being interviewed for the St Kilda position, left open after Thomas was sacked last month.

Longmire's interview with St Kilda this week will formalise an approach made on the Saints' behalf by a head-hunting firm in the week leading up to Thomas' final game.

Longmire told the firm he was interested in pursuing a senior role but would not talk officially until the completion of the Swans' finals campaign.

"It has been a source of frustration, but we were highly respectful that certain people, certain candidates, had their focus and their attention on their jobs at hand," Butterss said of St Kilda's inability to speak with Longmire.

"We wanted to be respectful of that. We are now free to operate in a much more direct way to get the job done."

Longmire said his contract with Sydney had expired after the grand final loss on Saturday.

"My main priority has been with the Swans, but that commitment has now ended," he said.

"I will worry about things when they come up."

Butterss said the Saints would not be rushed into naming Thomas's replacement.

"One of the things we chose not to do was to declare we would have it done by a certain day," Butterss said.

"We have quite a detailed program that will put each of the candidates through the wringer, and we are really keen to follow that.

"If that means some additional testing is required with respect to somebody's skill set or background, we have the time to do it.

"We are not under any pressure whatsoever."

As well as Longmire, high-profile media commentator Garry Lyon is considered a leading candidate for the job.

And they wonder why many of us don't take what we read too seriously.

I've got to say that I'm not excited by many of the candidates that we've been linked too but should we select an experienced assistant coach it will be a while before we know if the right decision has been made. In terms of an apprenticeship and the references that he comes with Longmire does seem the obvious candidate.
 
Laidley in picture for St Kilda job
Greg Denham and Chip Le Grand
October 03, 2006

ST KILDA will broaden its search for a new coach this week, and Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley is likely to be approached about his interest.
Laidley is under contract with the Kangaroos until the end of next season, but it is believed he could be tempted to move to Moorabbin as a replacement for Grant Thomas, who was axed last month.

While a number of senior coaches have held informal discussions with the Saints, Laidley could become a genuine target.

With 14 other senior coaches contracted for next season and either highly unlikely to move or already rejected by St Kilda, Laidley remains the only contracted senior coach that could satisfy the Saints' requirements.

Premiership coaches Leigh Matthews and Mick Malthouse were sounded out early in the process but said they were not interested.

Port Adelaide coach Mark Williams is understood to have responded favourably to overtures from the club last week, but St Kilda has since cooled on him.

It is understood that Laidley is far from happy about a proposal from the Kangaroos board to cut its football department spending for next season. The Roos' football department spending is already the lowest in the league.

It is believed the Kangaroos are planning their cost-cutting exercise despite the fact they will receive more money from the AFL next year than any other club.

The Roos will receive at least $9.7million in 2007, which includes increased revenue from playing home games at Telstra Dome and three on the Gold Coast.

Next year the Kangaroos will receive $3.5m more from the AFL than Adelaide, Brisbane, Collingwood, West Coast and Fremantle.

St Kilda will tomorrow interview Western Bulldogs assistant coach Chris Bond, Sydney assistant John Longmire and Collingwood assistant Guy McKenna.

Saints chief executive Archie Fraser yesterday said the club had not formally interviewed any candidates.

"Wednesday should be the first day when we are actually going to start looking at some of the assistants who have put their hand up," Fraser said. "They are all coming in for a chat."

Fraser said consultant Ken Sheldon, Ross Smith (chairman of the coaching sub-committee) and he were working through the club's coaching options.

"Part of that will also be based on the discussions we have with the guys," Fraser said. "I think anybody coming from an existing structure may have some view on what it needs to look like.

"This is almost a screening exercise. No-one within the club has met with anybody in a formal sense. This is the first time the sub-committee will meet with some external candidates. We are really just starting the process."

Fraser described Bond, McKenna, Longmire and St Kilda assistant coach Matt Rendell as serious candidates.

"They are really the four at this stage we are clearly going to talk to," he said.

"There is a lot of discussion about other people putting their hand up or whatever, but we haven't booked any other interviews at this stage.

"If we think one of these guys is the right guy ... we have got some other names, but whether we approach any of those people will depend on the outcome of this week.

"We don't have to rush it. The club is functioning pretty much as normal. The short list is going to be a couple of weeks away I would think. There might well be some people who put their hand up and come out of the woodwork."

Fraser said McKenna and Longmire had been put through initial testing by the club. "Wednesday is really to have a chat with them, get a feel for their style, see if they fit with the club."

He said he had undertaken an informal discussion with Garry Lyon, but the former Melbourne captain had been non-committal.

"If Garry wants to throw his hat in the ring we will consider him, but there is no indication from him that he is actually seriously interested," Fraser said.

"One of the first criteria is you have to want to do it."
 
If Laidley agrees to be interviewed by the St.Kilda board then St.Kilda may as well keep him.I can't see how a coach could win back the respect of his players and board members if they're aware that he is seeking greener pastures from other clubs while under contract.Often the greener pastures are not quite as green as you think anyway.However, I do think our board needs to get its priorities right with all the money they're receiving and where its being spent.Despite how much I hate the media whore, this is why E.T (aka Terry Wallet), left the Bulldogs, and rightly so.Gone are the days where a football department can be run on a drip system.
 

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Is it just me or has anyone else found it straange that noone has even mentioned Gary Ayres in all of this? Didn't the board say they were looking for someone with experience? I'm not saying he's the right man but it seems strange that his name hasn't been mentioned. He does have enormous experience as Senior coach and was an assistant at Essendon this year if memory serves.
 
Saints add Connolly to wishlist
By Greg Denham
October 04, 2006

ST KILDA's aggressive search for a replacement for coach Grant Thomas has identified Chris Connolly as a potential target.

News of the club's interest in the Fremantle coach came after St Kilda confirmed yesterday it would interview Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley for the vacant position.

The Saints continued push to find the best possible candidate led the club to interview Dockers assistant Mark Harvey in Melbourne on Monday.

Both Connolly, who has told Fremantle he wants to stay on in 2007, and Laidley, are contracted until the end of next season.

"We owe it to ourselves, we've got to interview those people who have the credentials," St Kilda president Rod Butterss said.

"We wouldn't be true to the process we've put in place if we didn't."

The St Kilda coaching selection process begins in earnest today when Bulldogs assistant coach Chris Bond, Sydney assistant John Longmire, Collingwood assistant Guy McKenna and St Kilda assistant Matt Rendell have their formal interviews.

The Swans are bracing themselves to lose Longmire, who at this stage is the favourite for the Saints coaching position.

St Kilda yesterday ruled former Melbourne captain Garry Lyon out of the race.

Saints chief executive Archie Fraser said he had no timeframe to complete the process, but expected the candidates to be whittled down to two, who would be required to make full final presentations.

Despite being tied to Arden Street, Laidley could be tempted to move to Moorabbin as a replacement for Grant Thomas, who was axed last month.

Kangaroos chief executive Geoff Walsh said yesterday the club would not stand in the way of Laidley talking to the Saints.

"But I wouldn't see a need, I wouldn't be happy for it to happen," Walsh said.

"At the moment we have two parties contracted and comfortable with each other."

The Kangaroos football department is reeling because a proposed increase in spending next year of $750,000 has been almost totally absorbed by the new collective bargaining agreement with the players.

The increase in total player payments has left the rest of the football department compromised. The beleaguered club paid about 97 per cent of its salary cap this year and is moving close to 100 per cent next season.

Laidley is understood to be angry over his department's lack of funding, which remains the lowest in the competition.

Figures for 2005 revealed that the Roos spent $9.77 million on their football department, almost $5 million less than Sydney, which won the premiership.

Next year the Kangaroos will receive at least $9.7 million from the AFL, which includes revenue from playing home games at Telstra Dome and three on the Gold Coast. Some of that money will go towards's retiring debt.

The Kangaroos will receive $3.5 million more than Adelaide, Brisbane, Collingwood, West Coast and Fremantle.
 
McKenna makes pitch for job
By Bruce Matthews
October 05, 2006

SENIOR St Kilda coach candidate Guy McKenna talked up the club's premiership prospects after a formal interview for the job yesterday.

"Coaching St Kilda to a premiership as soon as I possibly can, well, that's ultimately my dream," McKenna said.

The Collingwood assistant coach, Sydney assistant John Longmire and Western Bulldogs assistant Chris Bond made presentations to the Saints' review board in a marathon session at Moorabbin.

Each of the short-listed candidates took nearly three hours to pitch to replace Grant Thomas, using video technology, as well as being grilled with tough questions on why they were the man for the job.

McKenna, who played with John Worsfold in West Coast's 1992 and 1994 premiership teams, said he was further inspired to tread the same path as a coach after watching the Eagles snare another flag on Saturday.

"When you finish playing football and, as 'Woosha' has gone through, once you've stopped playing in premierships, the next thing you do if you become a coach is coach them," McKenna said.

"I want to do that in a senior position as soon as possible and here there's an opportunity to do that.

"Obviously, they had to ask the questions they had to ask, but again it's all about what I perceive to be the St Kilda Football Club and the areas that I can improve.

"I don't think as an assistant coach beggars can be choosers. The people I speak to and ultimately myself, I think I'm right to go and here's an opportunity.

"If it was Tasmania coming into the AFL or if it was Geelong or West Coast, you would put your hand up for it. That's all you can do.

"No matter how good or bad you think the list is or where the club's going, if you want to be a senior coach, the opportunities don't hang around for a long time."

Longmire, considered a strong favourite for the job, was more philosophical when he emerged.

"It's just a matter of getting that opportunity if you can. If I don't get an opportunity, well, that's the way it goes. I won't lose a lot of sleep over it and go and do something else," he said.

"Obviously, there's some talent here and there are things that you have to make sure you get it right."

Bond said he felt his presentation had gone well.

"I'm confident that I'm prepared and that everything I put forward was done in a professional manner and, in the end, we'll wait and see," Bond said.

"This club is certainly on the right track and the people today, I was very impressed with. I think it's a great opportunity to coach an AFL club.

"It's a great experience to be able to go through it (the interview process). It's terrific to have an open and honest chat with a group of people who you try to understand and they try to understand you.

"Obviously, you need to put your coaching and football philosophies out on the table and in the end they will decide. I was very happy with how the process went."
 
Saints have Horse by a nose
October 05, 2006

JOHN Longmire remains St Kilda's coach of choice after a remarkable 36 hours at Moorabbin.

The Saints officially interviewed the Swans assistant yesterday, along with Bulldogs assistant Chris Bond and Collingwood's Guy McKenna.

The club will sit down with Saints assistant Matthew Rendell on Saturday.

Mark Harvey, the former Essendon premiership tough man and current Fremantle assistant coach, yesterday declined an interview.

Longmire was tight-lipped yesterday, but he is understood to be the favourite for the job despite St Kilda chiefs describing the candidates' interviews as almost inseparable.

Saints president Rod Butterss refused to discuss individuals yesterday.

"We were pleased with the day, we're tracking well and we have more interviews to do," he said.

After being interviewed by chief executive Archie Fraser, football staff Ross Smith and Ken Sheldon and consultant Robert Walls, Longmire said: "It was the first time I'd met with them, so I think first impressions were pretty good. I don't know who else they're speaking to, I don't need to worry about that."

Bond and McKenna were equally confident walking out.

"I want to do that (coach) in a senior position as soon as possible and here there's an opportunity to do that," McKenna said.

"I think I'm right to go and here's an opportunity. No matter how good or bad you think the list is or where the club's going, if you want to be a senior coach, the opportunities don't hang around for a long time."

Bond gave the impression the Saints would not be rushed.

"It was very worthwhile and I'm confident I'm prepared," he said.

"It's not going to be a decision that's made quickly and that's great for the St Kilda Football Club."

But while Longmire appears to have the support of the front office, the same can't confidently be said of the popular Rendell.

His passionate speech in support of sacked coach Grant Thomas at the club's best-and-fairest count on Tuesday night was frowned upon by Saints powerbrokers.

Some close to Rendell also conceded the speech would have hurt his coaching aspirations.

Thomas was denied the chance to talk at the vote count - on the orders of Butterss - but Rendell notably praised his former colleague.

Intrigue also surrounded the lack of speeches at what is traditionally the players' night of the year.

Only Nick Riewoldt, the best-and-fairest winner, made a speech where he, too, thanked Thomas.

Other award winners and retirees, including Justin Peckett and Stephen Powell, did not address the crowd.

Thomas sent text messages to the entire playing list to say he would not be attending.

Riewoldt, meanwhile, was reported yesterday to be changing from the No.12 jumper to No.1 for season 2007, which was incorrect.
 
Schwab slams door on Saints
5th October 2006, 7:00 WST

Fremantle chief executive Cameron Schwab sent a blunt message to St Kilda yesterday as they intensified their search for a new coach — Chris Connolly will not be leaving the Dockers.

Connolly has a year of his contract to run but that hasn’t stopped the Saints from adding him to the lengthy hit list they have compiled to replace Grant Thomas.

Connolly’s stocks rose significantly this season after Fremantle overcame a poor start to the season to reach a preliminary final on the back of a nine-match winning streak.

The Dockers have invested plenty of time and money in Connolly, extending his contract even when the club was underperforming and Schwab said there was no way he wouldn’t be spearheading the club’s 2007 premiership push.

“A contract is a contract,” Schwab said. “It’s speculative and we’re not going to let it affect our planning for 2007.

“From the moment the final siren in the preliminary final was rung, we’ve got on with our planning for 2007 and we’re not going to allow these things to distract us.”

St Kilda have spoken to Fremantle assistant coach Mark Harvey about the coaching job but the former Essendon star has ruled himself out of the running, according to his manager Craig Kelly.

“Harvey has said he wants to stay with Fremantle. There is unfinished business from his point of view and he wants to finish the job,” Kelly said.

Connolly was high on St Kilda’s list of priorities in 2000 before the club finally appointed dual Adelaide premiership coach Malcolm Blight. The Saints also talked to Connolly late in 2001 after sacking Blight midway through the year.

Connolly is one of a number of contracted senior coaches targeted by St Kilda. Kangaroos coach Dean Laidley, Port Adelaide coach Mark Williams, Collingwood’s Mick Malthouse and Brisbane’s Leigh Matthews have also been linked with the job.

Despite the interest, Schwab said no consideration had been given to extending Connolly’s contract. He said the coaching rumour mill was out of control.

“I think they’ve got five coaches at this stage,” he said. “How many people have we read that are going to be coaching them?”

It is not the first time a club has ignored a contract and pursued Connolly — Hawthorn rang him twice in 2004 before appointing Alastair Clarkson.

Connolly, who spent six years at Glenferrie Oval and coached the Hawks once when Peter Schwab was ill, rejected the overtures, both midseason and later in the year when there were rumours Fremantle were about to sack him.

Sydney’s John Longmire has emerged as the favourite among a group of assistant coaches in the running for the St Kilda job.

Longmire, the Western Bulldogs’ Chris Bond and Collingwood’s Guy McKenna all made 2 1 /2-hour presentations to the club’s coaching sub-committee at its Moorabbin headquarters yesterday.

All are likely to have to wait until at least the end of next week to find out who has won the job, leaving the Saints without a head coach going into next week’s pre-draft trade period.

Though Longmire was giving little away, both Bond and McKenna signalled they were happy with their interviews and believed they were ready to step up to senior coaching roles.

“I think I’m right to go, and here’s an opportunity,” dual West Coast premiership star McKenna said after his interview.

Saints president Rod Butterss, chief executive Archie Fraser, premiership coach Robert Walls and premiership players Ken Sheldon and Ross Smith are among those on the club’s coaching sub-committee.

• Richmond have appointed former Hawthorn, Bulldogs and Kangaroos player Jade Rawlings as an assistant coach.

Rawlings, who retired in round 21 after a 148-game career, replaces David Wheadon.

Craig O’Donoghue with AAP
 
Second Swan bids for Saints post
By Mike Sheahan
06 Oct 06

JOHN Longmire's Sydney colleague Ross Lyon is a shock late entry into the field for the St Kilda coaching job.

Lyon flew into Melbourne last night for an interview today with the sub-committee that will recommend the replacement for Grant Thomas.

The former Fitzroy and Brisbane player has spent the past three seasons in Sydney as an assistant to Paul Roos, a former Fitzroy teammate.

Before joining the Swans, Lyon had four years at Carlton as an assistant and reserves coach after working at Richmond as an assistant to Robert Walls.

Walls is a key member of the St Kilda coaching sub-committee.

Longmire, a Sydney assistant since 2002, has been nominal favourite for the plum job at Moorabbin since Thomas was sacked a month ago.

But Lyon's emergence has thrown the coaching market into confusion.

He will have answered a request to present a case, and Walls is an admirer of his understanding of the game, unambiguous manner and team ethic.

Lyon also has an ace up his sleeve in close friend Stephen Silvagni, whom he is expected to offer as an assistant if he were to land the job.

Silvagni, a Carlton champion, has declared his interest in a full-time support role next year after spending the 2006 season with the Western Bulldogs as a specialist coach.

Roos is understood to be aware of Lyon's interest in St Kilda and supportive of his ambitions, as he has been with Longmire.

Suddenly, the future of Roos' entire support team is in doubt.

Longmire is out of contract and keen to graduate to a senior job, Lyon is interested in following the same path, and Peter Jonas is uncertain about his future in Sydney.

Coincidentally, the Swans yesterday announced the appointment of Brisbane Lions assistant John Blakey, who played at Fitzroy with Roos and Lyon, to their coaching panel.

Blakey has spent four seasons in Brisbane after a long playing career at Fitzroy and North Melbourne.

Lyon, 39, has been the midfield coach during the Swans' run of success in recent years.

He played 127 games with Fitzroy from 1985-1994, and two games with Brisbane in 1995 before a chronic knee injury forced him to retire at 28
 

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It's down to four - Chris Bond, Guy McKenna and Sydney assistants Ross Lyon and John Longmire. Matt Rendell will not be considered further for the top job. There are no current senior coaches on the list.

Quick straw poll - Who do you want to be the new coach?

McKenna
Lyon
Bond
Longmire

I vote for McKenna.
 
Just to follow on from The Punter, it's now officially down to four:

St Kilda Coaching update
6 October 2006
St Kilda Football Club

St Kilda Football Club has today finalised the preliminary interviews for the Senior Coach.

The Club now has four outstanding candidates to move to the next phase, which will take place over the coming week.

The candidates are:

Chris Bond

John Longmire

Ross Lyon

Guy McKenna

The Club will make further announcements when necessary.

http://saints.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=302174



The more I read about Bond the more I'm impressed by him. Lyon has come out of the blue but for me it's out of Bond and Longmire.
 
Once again, I think the Saints are doing a great job of playing their cards close to their chests. The final list of four shows that the media has just been completely pissing in the wind on this one. They clearly know nothing. Don't care which of the four gets the job although I must say if I had to choose between the Swans' midfield coach (Lyon) and their forwards coach (horse), I'd be taking the midfield coach. Let's not forget it's their midfield which has done the real damage over the last 2 years.
 
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Once again, I think the Saints are doing a great job of playing their cards close to their chests. The final list of four shows that the media has just been completely pissing in the wind on this one. They clearly know nothing. Don't care which of the four gets the job although I must say if I had to choose between the Swans' midfield coach (Lyon) and their forwards coach (horse), I'd be taking the midfield coach. Let's not forget it's their midfield which has done the real damage over the last 2 years.

ROSS LYON will get the job, a done deal basically. He is the tactical genius at Sydney, we have had no tactics since 66.
 
Silvagni turns his back on the Tigers
Caroline Wilson
October 4, 2006

STEPHEN Silvagni is weighing up his football future as his potential employer Richmond is on the verge of appointing the recently retired Jade Rawlings to its assistant coaching ranks.

Silvagni, who was recently interviewed for a Richmond job, is understood to have been unwilling to commit to the Tigers because of a two-year agreement stipulated by coach Terry Wallace, an indication that Carlton's full-back of the century wants to remain open to the possibility of a senior position at the Blues at the end of next year.

Silvagni, who has declared an ambition to coach and who will radically reduce his role at Channel Ten next season, is now expected to be interviewed for assistant positions at Geelong, St Kilda and potentially Hawthorn. The Tigers, meanwhile, will also secure an agreement with a player development manager this week, with former Brisbane Lion Craig McRae the frontrunner. There is tipped to be a vacancy at Hawthorn with assistant coach Todd Viney being pursued by Adelaide.
 
There is talk that if Ross Lyon (the midfield assistant coach from Sydney) is appointed coach of St Kilda, then his very good friend, Stephen Silvagni might also be induced to an assistant coaching position.

The above article lends weight to this possibility as he appears to be flying in a holding pattern at the moment, possibly awaiting the outcome of the St Kilda coaching appointment.
 

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