List Mgmt. COLLINGWOOD Trade & FA 2024

[Bianconeri]

Do we over rate the ruck position? A good midfield, which we have, may counteract a poor ruck. We have a tall defence but a short forward line. I'd love a ruck/forward, someone who can do both and use shorter rucks, weird but left field.
Cameron is a pretty decent mark and has kicked a few now, 55 in 81 games from a ruck is a decent return but he is ageing, 30 in mid 2025.
If Steene is worth persisting with, then I trust the process. Ideally I'd like to see another tall forward and maybe have Cox, Frampton, Cameron or Steene in that ruck position with a big hulking forward, McStay is undersized in my uneducated opinion.

I don’t think we do. We looked so much better last year when we had our two rucks playing compared to the time they were injured.

We don’t need the greatest tap ruckman, just anyone competitive enough to stop the opposition ruck from completely dominating.

It’s the aerial prowess around the ground the Cameron and Cox have that we need cover for.

 

[Carlthetruth]

My take as his manager would be that 1st ruck positions are thin on the ground for 2025, but you’re likely to see match time at Collingwood because they play a two ruck system. Unlike you I think it’s the way we want to structure up rather than out of necessity although I’d prefer a one ruck setup.

I’ve got Melbourne, Richmond and Geelong as the only three with possible first ruck minutes on offer in 2025. It’s likely though that all three will go with either the incumbent, the next cab off the rank or the greatest to ever do it (despite rising 34).

Preuss and then Grundy went to Melbourne for the prospect of ruck minutes but there were no minutes.

 

[sr36]

I don’t think we do. We looked so much better last year when we had our two rucks playing compared to the time they were injured.

We don’t need the greatest tap ruckman, just anyone competitive enough to stop the opposition ruck from completely dominating.

It’s the aerial prowess around the ground the Cameron and Cox have that we need cover for.

Yeah. I think it's more about two blokes who can clunk a mark than two rucks.

 

[Seedsfan]

It actually can now - NIL money is available to college athletes. I doubt Condon is getting a whole lot, but he's not getting nothing.

Yeah but he is no Arch Manning

 

[Gilbert_Grape]

Frampton one end, Franger the other.

surely they'll get Moyle in if they're planning to cut Cox?

(just for meme value. nickname: shakey)

 

[whiskeytown]

forget Lobb or Taberner or Weiderman or some other mediocre ruck forward

Get a proper young ruck and play Cameron ruck forward

Cameron ruck forward will clunk and kick as many as Lobb etc

 

[Couch Coach]

forget Lobb or Taberner or Weiderman or some other mediocre ruck forward

Get a proper young ruck and play Cameron ruck forward

Cameron ruck forward will clunk and kick as many as Lobb etc

This!

Cox = Retired
Cameron = Fwd/Ruc
Moyle/Reidy/Bryan?McAndrew? = Ruc trade
Steene = Developing Fwd/Ruc
Begg = ???

 

[satanshoof101]

 

[manicpie]

I think his relationship with Brad Scott got him over to them

To save me the trouble of listening to this, who have they mentioned for us

 

[Couch Coach]

To save me the trouble of listening to this, who have they mentioned for us

I just scrolled and:
McCluggage > Coll
Carmichael > Adel
Noble > Suns
Parfitt > Coll (No thanks)
Moyle > Coll
Lobb > Coll (No thanks)

 

[Carlthetruth]

forget Lobb or Taberner or Weiderman or some other mediocre ruck forward

Get a proper young ruck and play Cameron ruck forward

Cameron ruck forward will clunk and kick as many as Lobb etc

DC is killing it playing ruck atm and is a mediocre forward so why do that to him? Fly puts our players where they can succeed which is why it won't happen.

 

[manicpie]

I just scrolled and:
McCluggage > Coll
Carmichael > Adel
Noble > Suns
Parfitt > Coll (No thanks)
Moyle > Coll
Lobb > Coll (No thanks)

Thank you

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I just scrolled and:
McCluggage > Coll
Carmichael > Adel
Noble > Suns
Parfitt > Coll (No thanks)
Moyle > Coll
Lobb > Coll (No thanks)

Yuk. Lobb. Even heard Schwartz this morning on sen saying 'nah', to Lobb for Dee's..'too inconsistent & not enough presence' in relation to their forward woes.

No one rates him. He's a dud.

 

[manicpie]

Yuk. Lobb. Even heard Schwartz this morning on sen saying 'nah', to Lobb for Dee's..'too inconsistent & not enough presence' in relation to their forward woes.

No one rates him. He's a dud.

I've gone off him. Don't like the idea of losing JFN though. Maybe we might need to to get McCluggage

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

I've gone off him. Don't like the idea of losing JFN though. Maybe we might need to to get McCluggage

JFN is not leaving us. Don't mind McCluggage coming over.

 

[manicpie]

JFN is not leaving us. Don't mind McCluggage coming over.

I hope not, I like Noble

 

[Chameleon75]

I hope not, I like Noble

if he were to leave would he become J FU N?

 

[Jen2310]

I hope not, I like Noble

why would he leave now? He doesn't begrudge those that won a flag, and is now back in the best 22. Loves the club and aimed to get better this year.

Suns are after Rioli more so. There is no links to Noble (only in the aspect they could use someone "like him" )

 

[manicpie]

why would he leave now? He doesn't begrudge those that won a flag, and is now back in the best 22. Loves the club and aimed to get better this year.

Suns are after Rioli more so. There is no links to Noble (only in the aspect they could use someone "like him" )

Yeah, it didn't seem right to me. I think the boys are just assuming .

 

[Jen2310]

Yeah, it didn't seem right to me. I think the boys are just assuming .

Yeah, there was speculation earlier in the year when he was out of the team, but thats now changed now.

 

[Apex36]

I just scrolled and:
McCluggage > Coll
Carmichael > Adel
Noble > Suns
Parfitt > Coll (No thanks)
Moyle > Coll
Lobb > Coll (No thanks)

I like JFN but if the Suns were prepared to offer us a sweet deal for him I think we should consider letting him go

 

[Apex36]

why would he leave now? He doesn't begrudge those that won a flag, and is now back in the best 22. Loves the club and aimed to get better this year.

Suns are after Rioli more so. There is no links to Noble (only in the aspect they could use someone "like him" )

Money talks. He’s on role player money at the pies and that’s not going to change. If the Suns made him a lucrative long term offer like they’ve done for other role players in the past (Brandon Ellis anyone?) then he’d be silly not to consider it.

 

[Jen2310]

Money talks. He’s on role player money at the pies and that’s not going to change. If the Suns made him a lucrative long term offer like they’ve done for other role players in the past (Brandon Ellis anyone?) then he’d be silly not to consider it.

But they havent' There is no mention they are interested in him. Just someone like him.
They are more trying to pry Rioli out of richmond.

 

[ElliottsMaggies]

Yeah, it didn't seem right to me. I think the boys are just assuming .

It's all assumption. That's the whole point of the show.

 

[manicpie]

Money talks. He’s on role player money at the pies and that’s not going to change. If the Suns made him a lucrative long term offer like they’ve done for other role players in the past (Brandon Ellis anyone?) then he’d be silly not to consider it.

The only reason I can think that we might get rid of him is to get an upgrade. If the money offered to him was decent, would that give us a higher draft pick. I'm hopeless on drafting and shit