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[GreatBradScott]

Caesar, i'm usually a sychophant to you but have to agree with everyone else. One of the running jokes on Arrested Development was how innately dislikable the characters were. They were beyond flawed to being outright selfish ****s and that was where a lot of the humour lay.

The one character who bucked this was Michael, but he was very much the straight man.

On Community I think you're right, but to be honest the meta humour has been there from season 2 onwards. It's just that it's now exhausting tv/movie cliches so the jokes about itself are becoming more obvious as there's less other shit to poke fun at. Also agree with the one dimensional characters, but I think that is another meta-joke on the typical sitcom format.

However, he's right that the show has to find a balance between meta-humour, story and character development if it wants to go out on top, because ultimately this is the last season or the set-up for a shortened final season.

Personally, the only parts of Arrested Development I didn't like was the mini 5 episode thing they did at the start of Season 3 where they tried to parody the James Bond movies. It seemed too try-hard and it sort of just gave up on story for the sake of referencing James Bond.

The end of the 3rd season was fantastic, however this is the landmine Community has to dodge. It's alright if the story needs the references to continue a point (something 'Remedial Chaos Theory' - How the group would be affected by the removal of one person/how Jeff ultimately is seperate and is their dark cloud - and 'Horror Fiction in Five Spooky Steps' - a look at the groups morality and sanity - does with class), however if it does try to be self-referencial and bend the story and natural character arcs for the sake of it, it will begin to suck balls.


Remember, many people feel this season is different, but this is because it's more serialised than the other two. Harmon states that this season is the opposite of what Caeser is suggesting, "the consequences of what being attached to someone and loving people is". Yes, there is snark at times, but there is a sincere attempt to view the outcomes of what occurs when a relationship exists. So far, we've established that Troy has put his friends and his desire to watch TV with Abed over a lucrative job. This is a consequence of their relationship. All characters at one point in this season will have a choice, and it will pay off once it's aired in full.

 

[hawks_time]

Oh man, the latest episode is one of my favourites. Classic.

 

[Rustin Cohle]

Jeff as the Dean is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

 

[JUBJUB]

Jeff as the Dean is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

and Chang as his understudy

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Great episode

The Dean - "I loved you in...IMDB"

Leonard - "I don't want to wake up in 30 years and think, 'What if?'"

Both had me in stiches! Jeff dressed up as the Dean was also amazing.

 

[alfy!]

 

[GreatBradScott]

One going around the interwebs is #12seasonsandathemepark.

All in all, a solid A-.

Jeff and the Dean were brilliant.

 

[Bond.ShaneBond]

The Dean was a ****ing tour de force in that episode! Emmy worthy... except Community doesn't exist in awards land.

 

[Spudregus_87]

Probs on par with the timelines episode, so the best one of the season for mine.

Jeff as the Dean. Moment of the season.

God damn, even a stressed out Alison Brie is hot.

Don't mind the Troy/Britta thing, as they've been playing it up all season.

Don't think S1 Britta would've dated S1 Troy though.

Hopefully it kicks on from here.

Why don't more people like this show?

 

[BILC]

The Americans prefer Two And a Half Men, apparently.

 

[alfy!]

Big Bang Theory actually.

 

[GreatBradScott]

You are both wrong, this new show that put Cougar Town on Hiatus is sure to be a hit.



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This is the worst piece of crap idea I've ever seen. Whitney being propped up by NBC and promoted on another night instead of Community is also blasphemy.


I believe the Golden Age of Television has only a handful of years left, folks.

 

[MC Bad Genius]

You are both wrong, this new show that put Cougar Town on Hiatus is sure to be a hit.



[YOUTUBE]gJejMhA_8Q4[/YOUTUBE]



This is the worst piece of crap idea I've ever seen. Whitney being propped up by NBC and promoted on another night instead of Community is also blasphemy.


I believe the Golden Age of Television has only a handful of years left, folks.

That's a bit fatalistic. Think about all the REALLY great TV shows that have come out in the last decade. Arrested Development, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Office, 30 Rock, Boardwalk Empire etc (obviously some will disagree with my list), but I think TV is much farther away from death than the movies are ...

 

[GreatBradScott]

That's a bit fatalistic. Think about all the REALLY great TV shows that have come out in the last decade. Arrested Development, The Wire, Mad Men, Breaking Bad, The Office, 30 Rock, Boardwalk Empire etc (obviously some will disagree with my list), but I think TV is much farther away from death than the movies are ...

No, no, I believe we're currently in the Golden Age of Television. Starting with The Simpsons, Seinfeld, X Files, Larry Sanders Show, Friends in the early 90's, continue through the 00's with all those brilliant shows you listed, but it seems, what goes up, must come down; in that media and entertainment is cyclical.

You could add Archer, Louie, It's Always Sunny to those list of shows easy. We're blessed to have that choice atm, however, with Community being shunted, The Office in a tail-spin, Parks and Rec struggling viewerwise, the Wire gone; and Mad Men and 30 Rock entering their twilight years, I think, and dear God I hope I'm wrong, but populist TV could win out again. If it wasn't for FX and AMC networks in the States, quality TV and talented show runners would find it difficult to find a place in which such clever, game-changing, dice-rolling stuff is attempted.


In a perfect world, and even leading in example with AD's revival for a season with Netflix, I think this where Google/Youtube could step in and make a buck.
Give these great shows/talented producers and ideas a medium and budget, pay for advertising this way and broadcast it online. In all that, we get to cut out the middle man (the TV networks) who if it were up to them, would play TBBT and Two and a Half Men esque shows all bloody day.

 

[Underdog]

You are both wrong, this new show that put Cougar Town on Hiatus is sure to be a hit.

Which makes me as sad as Abed.

Terrible initial premise but since they abandoned it about half way through season 1, it's basically been a suburban Scrubs. Awesome show.

 

[Drummer_19]

You are both wrong, this new show that put Cougar Town on Hiatus is sure to be a hit.



[YOUTUBE]gJejMhA_8Q4[/YOUTUBE]



This is the worst piece of crap idea I've ever seen. Whitney being propped up by NBC and promoted on another night instead of Community is also blasphemy.


I believe the Golden Age of Television has only a handful of years left, folks.

There is no ****ing way that is a real show is it? Holy shit that looks awful.

 

[GreatBradScott]

There is no ****ing way that is a real show is it? Holy shit that looks awful.

Listen, if you can't sway a third of a Youtube comments section, shit's gonna fail.

 

[HBK619]

I kind of wanna watch it....just to see how aw(ful)esome it is.

 

[BILC]

No wonder they dropped Community, that looks great

 

[hawks_time]

Yet again why this show is so awesome. Just found this video.
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[matt_897]

You are both wrong, this new show that put Cougar Town on Hiatus is sure to be a hit.



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I've hadn't of seen that promo yet and now wish I never had. Have ABC even seen Cougar Town? Because that is 3000000000000000000X better than this shit. What on earth are they thinking?

Come back Cougar Town!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bond.ShaneBond]

I've hadn't of seen that promo yet and now wish I never had. Have ABC even seen Cougar Town? Because that is 3000000000000000000X better than this shit. What on earth are they thinking?

Come back Cougar Town!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jack and Jill has made $46m and climbing at the box office.

She's The Man made $57m. The Hot Chick made $54m. White Chicks made $137m.

They all feature cross dressing, and were all widely regarded as being worse than the most rancid shit any of us have ever squeezed out on a Sunday morning.

But they were all popular. I hope Work It gets booted very quickly, but there is a good chance it will be popular. People like shit stuff that has cross dressing.

 

[THRILLHO]

Just started watching this show. Been a nice B+ show for the first 9 episodes, with some good laughs and some good storylines. But, S1E10 - Environmental Science gave me three of the biggest laughs I've had since I had to hit pause so I could laugh at GOB trying to get his segue over a mound of dirt at the construction site in AD.

I'm in.

 

[tek87]

Pity it looks like this season might be the last. Too intelligent and witty and creative

 

[GreatBradScott]

All Community fans, this is an article from one of my favourite pop culture webistes.

Great insight in to what the networks options are and how American TV works. Must read:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/ratings-roundup-five-reasons-community-could-see-s,65685/