Compare our kids to stars

[PieLebo87]

When you compare, it doesnt mean you are saying they will amulate that player, or will be exactly like them, or even that they will surpass.

You are simply saying they are similiar, or look like being similiar, or that they remind you of that player;

Heath Shaw;
Where did Buckley start in his early days? HBF, how good was he with his long kicks and runs? Im not saying Heater will be as good as Buckley but he just has his younger day confidence to run, courage and just boots long, and accurate. Reminds me of Buckley in his early days. Going to be a gun midfielder with Pendles if he keeps developing at this rate.

Scott Pendlebury;
Dal Santo Dal Santo Dal Santo Dal Santo Dal Santo
lol thats what EVERYONE says, so why should I argue?
We have the new Matrix of the AFL.
Has guts too.
Will be a champion.

Dale Thomas;
Ive said it before, and Ill say it again, like James Hird..

Dale Thomas; Last but not least. A James Hird-type player (Not saying he will be Hirdy) He will be that magical player who pops up every now and then to win matches for us, not as consistently as Hird but in that sort of unstoppable when firing mold. No set position for this one, can be a midfielder one week, a loose backmen the next and then move up and play as a phenomenal small forward after

Shannon Cox;
I fell in love with this guy on ANZAC day, I knew he'd be good and even better then the other 2 debutants against Richmond but didnt realise he'd be this good!
Sadly, he is already 21, which is sour, I wish he was only 19 and doing this, but its all good. 10 years of ANZAC day style games and Im happy.
Has such confidence. I dunno who to compare him to but hes just really good and going to have a James Clement type effect to our backline, no nonsense type backman who will not let his opponent come out on top and will be damaging on the rebound.

Harry O'Brien;
Wow

You guys know the rest..

Egan, Anthony, Cloke, Dick, Goldsack ect...........

 

[#13Magpies#13]

Can not go past Alwyn Davies on ANZAC Day, he has freakish speed and exceptional skills, doesn't stop chasing i'd compare him to his brother? maybe just abit more confidence than his older brother maybe that could have been because of the moment?

Heath Shaw: Bursts off the HBF has really come of age in kicking skills, has great hands, i would definitely say that he plays like a young Buckley ( good call ) may not be as good but has the willingness and courage to learn. It earned him the ANZAC Day medal

 

[Dale Didak #134]

I've gotta say that Dale Thomas reminds me of Brett Burton a little
Danny Stanley - Scott Burns
Ryan Cook - Ryan O'Keefe

 

[Big Bryza]

Yep Dale Thomas is a cross between Burton and Hird
Pendlebury reminds me of Simon Black the way he gets the ball in traffic and seems to have heaps of time then has the finishing skills of Dal Santo.
Heater is eerily similar to Bucks, not as tall tho but just as good overhead and by foot. Brad Pinna reminds me of the Davey boys, remember they were both 20 when starting their league careers and once pinna fills out i can see him swarming the Half Forward line like its his own.

 

[Invigoration]

Danny Stanley - Bag of potatoes

 

[Dundalis]

I'm not getting this Hird comparison at all. Hird and Burton? Those two could play key position if they wanted to. Thomas could never do that. Neither of them are particularly quick, I don't think either are as quick as Thomas. Both are IMO much better marks.

If you are comparing to elite players for me Thomas is closer to a Kerr - Voss hybrid.

 

[Jabso]

Why put the Voss hybrid in there? I reckon Kerr is actually an astute comparison. I think he still plays a bit like Cooney, so a cross between Kerr and Cooney.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Danny Stanley - Bag of potatoes

Danny Frawley?

 

[theaussietilt]

To be honest I'm more inclined to compare Pendlebury to Hird than Thomas. Watching his game on Anzac day, his ability to work in close and out wide, consistently hitting targets by hand and foot, his silky smooth movement and fast decision-making was reminding me of the way Hirdy normally plays that game. Doesn't yet have the bulk that Hird has to really force his way through the packs, but they are much closer in height (2cm taller than Hird according to the club website profiles) and game-style than Thomas, in my opinion.

May be my imagination, but Scotty also seems to be getting more creative each week as the confidence increases, and while he may never have quite the flair that Hird and Thomas display, looks to be turning into a very exciting player in his own right.

 

[Invigoration]

Danny Frawley?

Lol

Applies to both

 

[mudgeathon]

I'm not getting this Hird comparison at all. Hird and Burton? Those two could play key position if they wanted to. Thomas could never do that. Neither of them are particularly quick, I don't think either are as quick as Thomas. Both are IMO much better marks.

If you are comparing to elite players for me Thomas is closer to a Kerr - Voss hybrid.

I actually couldn't think of a worse comparisson - [note not bagging Dale thomas here]

But he isn't at all like Kerr or Voss, they are/were hardnuts who threw/ their body at the ball, took/take on anyone in the comp [as in players like Hall, Gehrig and etc i.e. will drop in front of them, get in their face, tackle them], and etc

If you were to compare Thomas to anyone it would be a shorter [not much shorter] Andrew Embley [yes I know he's not elite, but he's an excellent player in his own right] - roams all over the ground, is quick, good set of hands, has goal sense; however on the flip side like Embley is a little unaccountable at thimes and a reciever prodominately

My two cents anyway

 

[ROWDY26]

i think only time will tell with Dale, once he has a set position in the side.
but that may not happen as he can play a variety of roles:
you could compare him to the lions Chris Johnson across half back, or perhaps a Nick Davis type up forward. but with his leap he is at the moment probably a mix between Leon and Nick Davis imo

 

[The Royal Sampler]

The best I can do at the moment *awaits flames*:

Thomas -> James Hird
Pendlebury -> Nick Dal Santo
Dick -> Shaun Burgoyne
Clarke -> Brendan Goddard
Wellingham -> Daniel Kerr
Stanley -> Scott Burns
Egan -> Andrew Macleod
Toovey -> Josh Mahoney

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Thomas -> James Hird
Pendlebury -> Nick Dal Santo
Stanley -> Scott Burns
Egan -> Andrew Macleod

Reasonable comparisons, in terms of playing style, rather than ability.

Dick -> Shaun Burgoyne
Clarke -> Brendan Goddard
Wellingham -> Daniel Kerr
Toovey -> Josh Mahoney

Terrible comparisons - None of them are even CLOSE.

Dick isn't even close to being inside enough to be compared to Shaun Burgoyne, who is one of the premier clearance players in league.

Clarke hasn't played nearly enough footy to possibly have a comparison.

Sharrod Wellingham is an outside midfielder, Daniel Kerr is extremely inside. No comparison of style. Wellingham is more of a Daniel Wells type.

Toovey and Josh Mahoney? One's a tagger/backman, the other is an opportunistic goalsneak. Don't be fooled by Toovey's goals on debut, he's not a forward.

 

[Pie Fight]

Thomas reminds me a lot of Peter Matera. Quick, skillful, Evasive, and knows where the goals are.

 

[Jabso]

I actually couldn't think of a worse comparisson - [note not bagging Dale thomas here]

But he isn't at all like Kerr or Voss, they are/were hardnuts who threw/ their body at the ball, took/take on anyone in the comp [as in players like Hall, Gehrig and etc i.e. will drop in front of them, get in their face, tackle them], and etc

If you were to compare Thomas to anyone it would be a shorter [not much shorter] Andrew Embley [yes I know he's not elite, but he's an excellent player in his own right] - roams all over the ground, is quick, good set of hands, has goal sense; however on the flip side like Embley is a little unaccountable at thimes and a reciever prodominately

My two cents anyway

So he is a shorter more 'inside' version of Embley? Thomas is #2 in our side for hard ball gets atm.

 

[mudgeathon]

So he is a shorter more 'inside' version of Embley? Thomas is #2 in our side for hard ball gets atm.

Is he really number 2 for hard ball gets at your club? Really suprises me. But yes I'd say your summary is pretty correct, 'a shorter more inside version of Andrew Embley.' Every club would be happy to have a few of those

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Is he really number 2 for hard ball gets at your club? Really suprises me.

That would be because you bought into the anti-Collingwood hype that suggests that Thomas is a soft flanker, when in reality he's a speedy and courageous midfielder.

 

[doppleganger]

Heath Shaw doesn't have the body size to compare to Buckley, he also isn't as good a kick. Perhaps a A.McLeod attacking HBF is more like Heater

Shannon Cox reminds me of Michael Johnson from Freo

Harry O reminds me of Clement

Thomas like a Hird type player, who looks very outside and does the skillful highlight real stuff, but also throws his body at the ball and wins the hard ball

 

[Dundalis]

I actually couldn't think of a worse comparisson - [note not bagging Dale thomas here]

But he isn't at all like Kerr or Voss, they are/were hardnuts who threw/ their body at the ball, took/take on anyone in the comp [as in players like Hall, Gehrig and etc i.e. will drop in front of them, get in their face, tackle them], and etc

If you were to compare Thomas to anyone it would be a shorter [not much shorter] Andrew Embley [yes I know he's not elite, but he's an excellent player in his own right] - roams all over the ground, is quick, good set of hands, has goal sense; however on the flip side like Embley is a little unaccountable at thimes and a reciever prodominately

My two cents anyway

So what you are actually saying then is that Thomas is a bit like Kerr and Voss. Because I would describe Thomas the same way. Once his body is at the level of someone like Kerr you will see him do the same things in midfield. When Voss was a scrawny little thing as a teenager I would bet he played a little similar to what Thomas is now. Hard at the ball but unable to throw himself in certain situations with utmost confidence in a congested midfield against body's much bigger and stronger than his.

 

[xxxWillxxx]

Heath Shaw doesn't have the body size to compare to Buckley, he also isn't as good a kick. Perhaps a A.McLeod attacking HBF is more like Heater

Shannon Cox reminds me of Michael Johnson from Freo

Harry O reminds me of Clement

Thomas like a Hird type player, who looks very outside and does the skillful highlight real stuff, but also throws his body at the ball and wins the hard ball

If memory serves me correct, didn't Nathan Buckley win alot of ball around 1996 off the half back flank playing as Tony Shaw's "quarterback?" Gathering as much possesion as midfielders, often more, whilst using good kicking skills and decision making to advantage. I can see Heath Shaw filling this role very well.

 

[Cyclops]

Compare our kids to stars ...

Pendlebury is a hard one. He has a bit of Judd and a bit of Black in the way he can't be tackled, he has a touch of Couch and a touch of Deisel Williams in his 360' disposal under pressure, and he has speed and a leap that people don't wseem to aknowledge. We have a freak on our hands and he's not like too many others before him.

Heath Shaw: Ray Shaw No surprise that he reminds me of his dad. Ray shaw was quicker but he had the same ultra reliable skills and could kick a goal under pressure. If anything Heath has a longer kick and maybe a touch less sparkle. Both are relentless competitors. In terms of intensity and winning one-on-ones, the most recent player he resembles is probably Voss.

Harry O'Brien: Chris Johnson Harry hasn't much of Johnson's skills but he can shut down his man and knows when to go for a little dash or help out on another forward. He arches the back in the same manner as Johnson and is rarely caught.

Brad Dick: Daniel Wells Dick is very light in ther body but he already has good long kicking, a huge leap and time in packs. I'd say he's too light for the roles the Burgoynes play, but he could be a damaging outside midfielder.

Chris Egan: Nick Davis Hopefully Egan gets enough meat on him to emulate Davis, who has all the skills and loves the big games. Egan is too tall for quick players, too quick for the big blokes and may just have the skills to match his own ego.

Dale Thomas: Dale Thomas What? You think Thomas isn't a star already?

 

[doppleganger]

If memory serves me correct, didn't Nathan Buckley win alot of ball around 1996 off the half back flank playing as Tony Shaw's "quarterback?" Gathering as much possesion as midfielders, often more, whilst using good kicking skills and decision making to advantage. I can see Heath Shaw filling this role very well.

Yes N.Buckley was used as a HBF quarterback type role by T.Shaw, he also took every Collingwood kick-in and set play up

But he also had the ability to play as a Key Defender on Carey, and as a Key Forward for us too. He is simply a bigger player than H.Shaw

Buckley went into the middle and was a big bodied clearance machine similar to Voss, Kouta, the big midfielders........Heater will never be the big bodied dominating midfield presence that Buckley became

H.Shaw reminds me of McLeod more than anybody, similar size, both very quick, both play HBF and are pretty much an extra midfielder

 

[Coin_Toss]

Heath Shaw - A smaller version of James Clement

Scott Pendlebury - A cross between Nick Dal Santo and Simon Black

Dale Thomas - James Hird

Sharrod Wellingham - Adam Yze

Brad Dick - A cross between Daniel Wells and Aaron Davey

Martin Clarke - Heath Shaw

Ben Reid - Jeff White

Nathan Brown - Darren Glass?

Shannon Cox - A cross between Adam Goodes and David Wirrpunda - watch him push up into the midfield

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Reasonable comparisons, in terms of playing style, rather than ability.


Terrible comparisons - None of them are even CLOSE.

Dick isn't even close to being inside enough to be compared to Shaun Burgoyne, who is one of the premier clearance players in league.

Clarke hasn't played nearly enough footy to possibly have a comparison.

Sharrod Wellingham is an outside midfielder, Daniel Kerr is extremely inside. No comparison of style. Wellingham is more of a Daniel Wells type.

Toovey and Josh Mahoney? One's a tagger/backman, the other is an opportunistic goalsneak. Don't be fooled by Toovey's goals on debut, he's not a forward.

I think Dick will end up being an inside midfielder. Who else can you compare him to in terms of body size, when he's 70 kgs? S Burgoyne used to be a drink of water himself, you know. If you're going purely by body shape, then you can only compare him to a Krakouer, Egan etc. which is a complete waste of time.

On Wellingham, Daniel Wells is a nice comparison, but I think you're getting a bit too caught up in this inside/outside nonsense. Wellingham isn't Chris Egan, Craig Bradley etc. He's quick, has good skills and is a compact runner, like Kerr.

Toovey has a similar body composition and moves like Mahoney, to my mind. I wasn't comparing those two on playing style.

Clarke hasn't played enough footy to be compared to anyone, well he's played the same number of senior games as Wellingham, and a few less than Toovey and Dick. This whole thing is entirely speculative anyway, and at the end of the day they're going to play like themselves.