Complete Idiots Guide to Dream Team in 2011

[BACCS]

O'Keefe has had a full groin reconstruction over the break. Perhaps not the greatest of recommendations for a 2011 DT starting lineup.

Yup, and after reading Lakey's post somewhere on here... no thanks. I've gone with Goodes instead.

 

[yogibbear]

I also edited your post for accuracy.

I actually think our "back and fourth drivel" has added much more interesting discussion regarding team structures and trade target strategy than the rest of the board over the last week. So... nope. I will thoughtfully disagree.

 

[thebaxters]

<snip>This year I believe there is a fundamental decision to make which will determine how you structure your team. Its the rucks.

Rucks have traditionally posed problems and this year is no different.<snip>

Ugh. It's *always* the rucks. It's another year where the simplest position, the position where you need only two guys on the paddock can make you question your choices. The shallower pool of DT drafting means you have to get it right or it's so glaringly obvious; mess up your 7th back... myeh. Mess up your 2nd ruck... big damage. And this year, as Ollies said, lots of options again... security, comeback kids, up and comers.

<snip>I personally think that Swallow and Gaff may not be worth the extra $$$ this year. Then again, you could turn Atley to Swallow and still have some spare $$$ if that was your wish instead.

Good call Tarqs. Last couple of years you really wanted the top draft picks. They (typically) played early, they played lots of games, they appreciated in cash. This year you have a team with a lot of rookies, or at least, rookie priced players. Different game this year.

I actually think our "back and fourth drivel" has added much more interesting discussion regarding team structures and trade target strategy than the rest of the board over the last week. So... nope. I will thoughtfully disagree.

Wasn't all that good the second, third or "fourth" time. Sorry.

 

[LemmingMaster]

O'Keefe has had a full groin reconstruction over the break. Perhaps not the greatest of recommendations for a 2011 DT starting lineup.

Goodes, Pavlich, Gian...Take one of those options.

Have not massively paid attention to the training reports and injury reports this year. I actually thought that OKeefe was back running around the park again.

Anyway, minor details, someone other than injury prone Sylvia would suit my guide.

 

[Crow-mo]

Tarquin,

excellent post. what I liked about it, is you didn't get suckered into this myth that sharing knowledge gives people an unfair advantage. the people who do well are those that analyse and interpret the vast amount of publicly available information, not those trying to hide and hold back info.

the people who managed DP and the bye best, will be the ones who do the best overall. this is hardly rocket science.

 

[Wheedus]

Goodes, Pavlich, Gian...Take one of those options.

Have not massively paid attention to the training reports and injury reports this year. I actually thought that OKeefe was back running around the park again.

Anyway, minor details, someone other than injury prone Sylvia would suit my guide.

Awesome thread. Thanks for this.

Coming back to the OP, would you classify JPK as a potential premium or is that stretching things a bit? I was pleased to see that my current team fit your structure but has JPK as the 4th MID. He averaged 73 in 2010 and played all 22. Everything points to a better year but I just feel nervous that he won't get to 105-110 (which is what you'd want as a minimum from your 6th MID by seasons end).

 

[Capt_Concussion]

Where can you find stats for top 10 TOTAL points? I can only find values for averages.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Where can you find stats for top 10 TOTAL points? I can only find values for averages.

To be honest, plugging other peoples work.

1. fanfooty (I use this tool for historical information on players)
2. FFGenie (I prefer this tool for bulk information)
3. tooserious (Recently updated, but it is a combination of fanfooty and FFGenie is some regards)

I would strongly suggest that you have some program or website where you can sort 2010 data into some ranking list depending on certain factors. Average, Total points, games played.. I personally use FFGenie, but fanplanner can from memory perform the same functions.

 

[LemmingMaster]

Awesome thread. Thanks for this.

Coming back to the OP, would you classify JPK as a potential premium or is that stretching things a bit? I was pleased to see that my current team fit your structure but has JPK as the 4th MID. He averaged 73 in 2010 and played all 22. Everything points to a better year but I just feel nervous that he won't get to 105-110 (which is what you'd want as a minimum from your 6th MID by seasons end).

I don't want to be the overlord and say yes or no, I think every team should have one or two players which they have a belief will do something special. I just think you should surround them by proven scorers/rookies.

The more unique risks you take, it can really kill your score, often you're the only one feeling the pain. If for example Swan goes down injured, you know most of the competition hurts. If JPK goes down, then only a few people hurt. There is obviously a flip side, if JPK dominates, you're in a better position. Risk v Reward. My personal style is to place my calculated risks with rookies and not many upside/value picks (JPK). I would prefer to start an extra rookie on the field and upgrade my borderline selections.

Personally I really like JPK, think he does have upside, but he is positioned at a strange price and I personally don't think he will push to keeper status. He may just make as much money if not less than a rookie.

It is your team at the end of the day, if you pick JPK to have a breakout year, then make sure you limit your "breakout" player picks in other positions. Then I think it is important to determine how well your prediction has gone in the season. If by round 5ish he is not really showing signs of doing what you hoped, I would do one of two things; Upgrade him to a super premium (Swan, Boyd...) or free up a heap of cash and downgrade him to a rookie you missed. This downgrade will free up cash to give you some flexibility for future upgrades.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

The thing i like most about the thread is the title.

Thought id add something

 

[Wheedus]

I don't want to be the overlord and say yes or no, I think every team should have one or two players which they have a belief will do something special. I just think you should surround them by proven scores/rookies.

The more unique risks you take, it can really kill your score, often you're the only one feeling the pain. If for example Swan goes down injured, you know most of the competition hurts. If JPK goes down, then only a few people hurt. There is obviously a flip side, if JPK dominates, you're in a better position. Risk v Reward. My personal style is to place my calculated risks with rookies and not many upside/value picks (JPK). I would prefer to start an extra rookie on the field and upgrade my borderline selections.

Personally I really like JPK, think he does have upside, but he is positioned at a strange price and I personally don't think he will push to keeper status. He may just make as much money if not less than a rookie.

It is your team at the end of the day, if you pick JPK to have a breakout year, then make sure you limit your "breakout" player picks in other positions. Then I think it is important to determine how well your prediction has gone in the season. If by round 5ish he is not really showing signs of doing what you hoped, I would do one of two things; Upgrade him to a super premium (Swan, Boyd...) or free up a heap of cash and downgrade him to a rookie you missed. This downgrade will free up cash to give you some flexibility for future upgrades.

Cheers, thanks for that

 

[MT_report]

Where can you find stats for top 10 TOTAL points? I can only find values for averages.

On the selection page you can sort the players by total points. Is next to Search.

And Frazier would probably be my first player picked if they didn't have 2 byes in the first 9 rounds.

 

[Jolldo87]

Where can you find stats for top 10 TOTAL points? I can only find values for averages.

As well as the other sources mentioned you can still log onto the 2010 site.

http://174.36.74.3/

 

[dylan123]

As well as the other sources mentioned you can still log onto the 2010 site.

http://174.36.74.3/

Handy link.
You wouldn't happen to have an SC one by any chance?

 

[Jolldo87]

Handy link.
You wouldn't happen to have an SC one by any chance?

Nah sorry I don't.

 

[Jars458]

Interesting. On this approach I can't have both Otten and Adcock.

This would also mean dumping Adcock for a rookie (Coad) but allow me to upgrade Fisher to Enright and in the mids Anthony to Boyd.

I don't have a potential premium in the mids but I thnk that's due to having two expesnive ish ruckmen. I think Gaff Heppell and Harris should be ok as strating rookies though.

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[senrulzisback]

Good call Tarqs. Last couple of years you really wanted the top draft picks. They (typically) played early, they played lots of games, they appreciated in cash. This year you have a team with a lot of rookies, or at least, rookie priced players. Different game this year.

Exactly why I don't agree with having 4 premiums in the midfield. With so many rookie options in the midfield that are pretty much guarenteed to appreciate in value (Swallow, Harris, Smith, Atley, Mzungu, Gaff, just to name a few) it would make more sense to get a player like Swallow, who is likely to increase in price over 300k, than to risk 350-400k on a player who isnt guarenteed to be a keeper, and there is still a chance you will have to trade them.

 

[Crow-mo]

it would make more sense to get a player like Swallow, who is likely to increase in price over 300k,

I presume you mean swallow will increase to 300K or more?

there is almost no chance he will go to 460K. he's not exactly Mr Prolific in that sense.

 

[Borgsta]

Good write up.

 

[senrulzisback]

I presume you mean swallow will increase to 300K or more?

there is almost no chance he will go to 460K. he's not exactly Mr Prolific in that sense.

Yeah that was what I meant, 460k is abit high.

 

[Blue and Silver]

Having been sucked into quite a few noob traps over the years. Early trading, try hard uniques etc. I fully endorse this thread.

I would add one thing, don't put too much emphasis on NAB Cup form. Take variables into account, ie: will this player be playing this position in the H/A season, how strong was the opposition, does this player have job security or is he filling a gap for a rested player. Getting sucked into selecting a depth player who performs in a scratch match but can't get a game in the regular season will just cost you a trade

 

[LemmingMaster]

I will wait a week or two and hope that people having given this a shot; I then plan on releasing a potential updated guide with some additional notes and options to selecting your team.

 

[senrulzisback]

Having been sucked into quite a few noob traps over the years. Early trading, try hard uniques etc. I fully endorse this thread.

I would add one thing, don't put too much emphasis on NAB Cup form. Take variables into account, ie: will this player be playing this position in the H/A season, how strong was the opposition, does this player have job security or is he filling a gap for a rested player. Getting sucked into selecting a depth player who performs in a scratch match but can't get a game in the regular season will just cost you a trade

Just to add on to this, NAB cup form is very useful, and can help with picking up the best rookies, and also injuries/new roles in your premiums as well. Just don't get put off if one of your premiums has a below-par NAB cup, as long as they are fit and they are in the same/similar or even better position that made them a premium, they should be fine.

Don't discard NAB cup form though, because it is one of the most useful tools before the season starts. Over the years the NAB cup has provided the stats that helped players choose bargain picks like Barlow, so it can be very useful if used wisely.

 

[Dunn - Well Done]

I will wait a week or two and hope that people having given this a shot; I then plan on releasing a potential updated guide with some additional notes and options to selecting your team.

So your also going to help the noobs out with trading aswell.

Gee wish this was my first or second year doing DT because i wouldnt need to post i would get carried into the top 100.

 

[Jolldo87]

So your also going to help the noobs out with trading aswell.

Gee wish this was my first or second year doing DT because i wouldnt need to post i would get carried into the top 100.

So by that logic you'll be doing much better than top 100 this year?