News Confirmed: Jack Frost elevated

[Gone Critical]

Given Reid isn't certain for round 1 and rookie upgrades have to be in this week you would now think Frost is a certainty for elevation to the senior list. Article also sheds light on Fas and Krak. Krak must still be battling a few demons and his lack of application both pre 2012 and now this year is a worry. Fas must have had a pretty significant hamstring if it kept him out of preseason and to round 3. Will need a few VFL games so maybe round 5 before he is ready. At least news on Daisy better. Hope Dids is up and about soon because we will be needing him

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Magpies Dale Thomas and Ben Reid on track for opener against North Melbourne​

• Daryl Timms and Glenn McFarlane
• From:Herald Sun
• March 16, 2013 11:00PM

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COLLINGWOOD'S DALE THOMAS NOW APPEARS A HUGE CHANCE TO BE AVAILABLE FOR ROUND 1. PICTURE: WAYNE LUDBEYHERALD SUN
COLLINGWOOD hasn't given up on Ben Reid and Dale Thomas being available for its opening-round clash against North Melbourne in 14 days.

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But the Magpies have already ruled out Alex Fasolo and Andrew Krakouer.
Reid and Thomas could play in a practice match next weekend, and director of football Geoff Walsh said they would be available for the first round.
If they don't play for the senior side against the Kangaroos on March 30, they will line up four days earlier for the club's VFL side against an Australian Institute of Sport team in a curtain raiser to the Richmond and Carlton clash.
Yesterday Walsh said Reid and Thomas, who both missed Friday's practice match against Geelong, were in a similar situation.
"Like Reidy, if 'Daisy' (Thomas) is not fit to play in the game on the weekend, he'll be right for Round 1," Walsh said.
Fasolo won't make his AFL return until at least Round 3 after battling a hamstring complaint. He has not played so far this pre-season.
Krakouer is still a couple of weeks away from playing his first game for the season in the VFL.
He was a considered a chance of playing in yesterday's VFL clash against Geelong, but the club believes he needs more fitness work before he resumes at the lower level.
Walsh said Krakouer had missed a couple of training sessions in the past month and the club wanted to make sure he was fit before he played.
"He might be a couple of weeks away from playing," Walsh said. "His general fitness is not as good as it could be, so we want to get him fit on the track."
Forward Quinten Lynch suffered a corky during Collingwood's 51-point loss to the Cats at Simonds Stadium on Friday.
Lynch, who booted four goals, has already been cleared of any serious damage.​

 

[mattys123]

I agree, but not only because of Ben Reid, but because we don't have Lachie Keefe for at least the first 6-7 weeks and also Nathan Brown is about as injury prone as anyone on our list.

The cut off date for the first upgrades is Tuesday, so I'd guess we'd release the decision tomorrow, as it's probably already been made anyway.

Upgrade Hudson and Frost, and then if we get any LTI's you upgrade anyone who can fill the role of the injured player.

 

[carnthepies19]

Surely we could put Grundy as an LTI and upgrade another player like a mooney martin or dwyer just as a bit of extra midfield/forward depth for Krak&Fas.

 

[Mkcaptain]

I'd love for Dwyer to be elevated; given we're likely to be missing Fasolo, Thomas and Ball round 1. Give him a chance over the big first few rounds for him to show whether he's up to AFL level.

It will probably be Hudson and Frost though.

 

[the mighty T]

Frosty has got to be elevated anyway;. Hes shown his ability and occupies a position that we dont have great depth in (especially whilst Keefe is out) and have had major injuries to in the last 18 months or so.

Whether or not Reid is right for round one, i want Frost in the side. He's match up well with Norfs tall forwardline and even if they dont go with the extra big man, having Frost in the side allows Reid to get free and setup play in the back half.

Kid looks to be a solid addition

 

[cleomenes]

Keeffe is a long term injury. Upgrade frost in his place. That leaves the other two for whoever the club was planning on.

 

[Cory]

I'm all for upgrading Frost, he's shown so much in the pre-season comp who can cover Reid or Keefe for round 1.Dwyer being upgraded is also a good idea as suggested a cover for Fas/Caff.

How many players can we upgrade? 2?

 

[the mighty T]

I'm all for upgrading Frost, he's shown so much in the pre-season comp who can cover Reid or Keefe for round 1.Dwyer being upgraded is also a good idea as suggested a cover for Fas/Caff.

How many players can we upgrade? 2?

At this stage, 2 without putting someone on the LTI list. Hudson is all but guaranteed one of them.

Then i think we can upgrade another midseason

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Bit of a bummer about Fas, we could use some outside ability. Elliott must surely be in the round 1 side now.

I doubt the club will elevate anyone (perhaps other than Hudson) it doesn't want playing in week 1, but Keeffe or Grundy could be LTI'd if we were concerned.

 

[Jelly Bean]

Bit of a bummer about Fas, we could use some outside ability. Elliott must surely be in the round 1 side now.

I doubt the club will elevate anyone (perhaps other than Hudson) it doesn't want playing in week 1, but Keeffe or Grundy could be LTI'd if we were concerned.

We need to elevate two by Tuesday, otherwise we can't elevate anyone else apart from LTI (or midseason). If we don't elevate rookies in each of the two gaps we have by this week, we can't do it. It isn't just a free spot that we can fill at any time, unfortunately.

Hudson and Frost.

 

[HouseOfPaine]

Out of curiosity, how many players can we have placed on the LTI list, and how many do we have there now? I'm a bit hazy on the LTI rules.

I'm all for upgrading Frost for round one. I'm super glad we picked him up.

 

[frizzle]

Perhaps put Grundy on LTI list. He wont play seniors for ages anyway because he is supposedly 7 or 8 weeks from playing any footy at all.
That gives us 3 elevations. Hudson, Frost & either Martin or Dwyer.

 

[blaze036]

Nominate frost and hudson now, mooney at round 11 and dywer/martin for an LTI if we need

 

[Kirby]

I think Reid will play round 1 but even so I think Frost should get the upgrade considering the lack of depth we have in KPD and the fact that they are all injury prone.

 

[Gone Critical]

Perhaps put Grundy on LTI list. He wont play seniors for ages anyway because he is supposedly 7 or 8 weeks from playing any footy at all.
That gives us 3 elevations. Hudson, Frost & either Martin or Dwyer.

I don't think it is that easy. Not sure of the exact length but LTI is at least 8 weeks and that means 8 weeks of not playing AFL/VFL as I understand it. Keefe and Grundy may well be ready for VFL before that time so won't go onto LTI

 

[rand corp]

Hudson, Frost and Dwyer/Martin (I'd go Dwyer)as the elevated rookies with one of Keefe or Grundy onto the LTI.

Need cover in the ruck, KPD & small forward roles.

Faz has missed a lot of footy for a bloody hamstring but then again so has Didak!!!! Both missed about 6 or 7 weeks with 'minor' hammies LOL.

Bloody Krak, what good was going to Arizona only to come back and pig out on the turtle meat and once a gain miss training sessions (same as last year).

Disgraceful and disrespectful the condition he presented himself in, looked fat, treacle slow, soft and had blown a gasket in his only NAB hitout. They fired Shannon Cox for that!!! (although the spin was he lost the desire).

I'd farken bake him for at least half the season on the track and in the VFL, if he can get fit and contribute near the pointy end of the year good but we should try every other small forward on the list before giving this lazy, ungrateful little b@st@rd another sniff.

Delist at year's end.

 

[blaze036]

I don't think it is that easy. Not sure of the exact length but LTI is at least 8 weeks and that means 8 weeks of not playing AFL/VFL as I understand it. Keefe and Grundy may well be ready for VFL before that time so won't go onto LTI

I don't think 8 weeks without AFL or VFL would be bad for grundy, may be more rest than he needs but better safe than sorry

 

[carnthepies19]

Spoke to Fas at family day, was his foot (also remember pics from Utah - was in a moonboot) but obviously since then he's done the hammy. So the hammy has been a recent thing, not the reason he missed the majority of preseaon.

 

[76woodenspooners]

Bloody Krak, what good was going to Arizona only to come back and pig out on the turtle meat and once a gain miss training sessions (same as last year).

Disgraceful and disrespectful the condition he presented himself in, looked fat, treacle slow, soft and had blown a gasket in his only NAB hitout. They fired Shannon Cox for that!!! (although the spin was he lost the desire).

I'd farken bake him for at least half the season on the track and in the VFL, if he can get fit and contribute near the pointy end of the year good but we should try every other small forward on the list before giving this lazy, ungrateful little b@st@rd another sniff.

Delist at year's end.

I'm surprised more hasn't been said about Krak's situation, especially as Buckley made a point of the lads needing to look after themselves over Christmas.

In his defence, he's probably hitting a time in his life when his body is starting to behave a little differently to what he's used to.

The young players could probably eat 3 Big Macs for breakfast lunch and dinner without putting on the weight they need.

Get to Krak's age and suddenly a litre of beer equals a kilo of beer gut.

 

[Kirby]

I must say it appears to be pretty shithouse that Krak has done this again. The club have put a lot of effort into him but it seems he can't return that effort.

 

[Magpie Girl]

I'm surprised more hasn't been said about Krak's situation, especially as Buckley made a point of the lads needing to look after themselves over Christmas.

In his defence, he's probably hitting a time in his life when his body is starting to behave a little differently to what he's used to.

The young players could probably eat 3 Big Macs for breakfast lunch and dinner without putting on the weight they need.

Get to Krak's age and suddenly a litre of beer equals a kilo of beer gut.

Yes well he has just turned 30 and we all know how men go into decline after this milestone !??! LOL :

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Speak for yourself.

I think Krak is on a one-year deal, so he'll have to shape up or that'll be it for him.

Just makes you wish we'd held off on elevating Marley and instead picked up Garlett.

 

[blaze036]

Speak for yourself.

I think Krak is on a one-year deal, so he'll have to shape up or that'll be it for him.

Just makes you wish we'd held off on elevating Marley and instead picked up Garlett.

I think picking up garlett would of been a disastrous move

 

[TradeDraft]

Guess bringing up Frost to Play the Keeffe Role is a Good Idea and He has played all Pre-Season Games in the Senior Team

 

[The Royal Sampler]

That was tongue-in-cheek.

Marley causing trouble is exactly what was expected of Garlett.