List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition Vol 2

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• Player contract status
• Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Harley Reid extends to 2028

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List Changes - 2025

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• Oscar Allen advises intention to explore Free Agency
• Jayden Hunt announces retirement
• Jack Petruccelle
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  , Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts
• Liam Ryan has requested a trade to St Kilda but is contracted for 2026
• Campbell Chesser (uncontracted) has requested a trade to Carlton
• List would be 37 (31 main, 4 rookie, 2 Cat B)

Players out of Contract 2025 (5)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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Key Offseason Dates

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Fri Oct 3 - Fri Oct 10: 2025 Free Agency Period
Mon Oct 6 - Wed Oct 15: 2025 AFL Trade Period
Wed Nov 19 - Thu Nov 20: 2025 AFL Draft

 

[Nigellathechook]

• first year players
• cripps (50 year old)
• owies (LOL)

Some depth. Seriously there no middle ground depth there. It's all extremes

Hutchinson is a like-for-like replacement for Ryan… a highflying goal kicking forward

 

[Peptide Pig]

This is not the draft to land a great white hope. The top end talent and depth isn’t there. Of course it’s all speculative and there could be the next superstar in waiting, but all the draft gurus say otherwise. A couple of first rounders would be good for us but I wouldn’t overinvest in this draft. Instead we should look at trading to address our many list concerns. If part of our assistance package is FA access that does not affect OA compo, then we should at least grab Starcevich.

I would be torn on this. I’m a big Chad believer but at this point we would be better waiting two years and getting him as a FA. If Swans would accept one of our early picks then sure but they would want much more, especially in a weak draft, granted they need academy points this year and next.

If Curnow nominates Sydney and it opens up the Chad trade then of course we would bring him in. We are not in a position to say no to elite players his age (24), especially midfielders. I worry Swans would ask a lot for him and we would feel obliged to make it happen given we aren’t exactly a destination club right now. Of course we would prefer to get him for free in a couple of years as a FA.

Ideally Curnow nominates GC. They already need to shuffle their early picks and we hold the most points and flexibility to take advantage. Curnow would push out Walter who is already playing reserves and while our key forward stocks are good, he could be a monster and paired with Shanahan and A Reid long term would be awesome.

GC would be so keen for the optics of landing a genuine star that they could give up plenty to make it happen. We have interest in Davies but there is some other guys who would help solve our midfield issues too.

Flanders played midfield last year and averaged 30.9 touches, this year he’s been pushed out and averaged 18.8 even starting as the sub last week.

Fiorini is currently in the side but has always been the first one dropped and then has to bang the door down with huge VFL numbers to get a look in. He is a free agent.

Could either be swayed with more opportunity and security? We could desperately use a player like these that can actually accumulate the footy.

Moyle would be our number 1 ruck and Knobel is more competent back up than Livingstone or Barnett.

GC have a conveyer belt of academy prospects coming through so they can afford to lose some fringe midfielders or a depth ruck.

Freo could also be targeted with Erasmus, Brodie and Reidy all able to fill needs for us. Even NOD or Sharp for a wing.

We have so many list issues I think we really need to focus on some smart trade moves. Our midfield depth is so poor that almost every other team would have a couple of mids playing state league that would get a game every week for us.

It’s amazing to see some of the numbers being put up around the state leagues and then reading down our WAFL sides return on the weekend with ONE player above 20 disposals… and he’s not on our senior list. There’s reserves players on every list racking up numbers that we just don’t see. Look up Elijah Tsatas’ VFL stats. Gets 30-40 every week and can’t get a senior game for the Bombers who have a huge injury list. He is just one of many around the comp. Guys like Fin Macrae still getting around in the reserves.

Same with rucks. Back ups around the state leagues racking up 20 touches and 40+ hit outs while ours are getting monstered by non-AFL listed battlers.

Of course stats don’t show the whole picture and most of the guys I’m referring too have knocks on aspects of their game whether it be disposal/defence/pace but they don’t need to be world beaters to help our midfield. We haven’t had a midfielder get 30 touches all year. We need some guys who can get their hands on the footy and dish it out to Harley, Elijah and co.

Ideally it’s the 21 year olds who haven’t cemented their spot yet and are getting impatient or could be swayed with a decent deal. Sheldrick was ripe last year but has showed that if we wait too long we will miss the boat on guys like Erasmus when things click and establish themselves. Or occasionally they go backwards like DevRob. But once a player hits their straps the price goes up.

I would be happy to bring in some of:

20-24 year olds who are fringe or have upside
eg. 1-3 of Davies, Erasmus, DevRob, Sheldrick, Tsatas, Windhager

24-28 year olds who are fringe or played out of position
eg. 1-2 of Flanders, Fiorini, Brodie

Veteran leaders who have lost a step but have had individual and/or team success and high standards
eg. 1 of Cripps, Neale, Steele, Mitchell

Young KPPs
Walter and Busslinger are both OOC end of next year but could be swayed with more security. Wait a year and they may be out of contract but could have also established themselves and be worth more in trade. I have read some knocks on Busslinger but has played well in the VFL, was a high draft pick and not many KPDs show heaps at 21.

Ruck in order of preference

• Moyle
• Reidy
• Dodson
• Knobel

Obviously list spots pending after some more cuts and trades. I would love to draft another promising mid like Sharp but in a weak draft year and our list being so young it seems like the right time to also top up the list profile with some guys that have upside, fill needs (mostly midfield) and have a few years in the system.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

What senior players have Geelong, Brisbane, Sydney or Collingwood moved on for high picks? This isn't a thing that really happens much. Sydney moved Luke Parker on for a bag of footballs, or basically the same return we got for Jack Darling.

Also, you can't force players to leave at gunpoint. Even if we wanted to cash in on the (still considerable) trade value for a McGovern or a Kennedy when they were 30 years old, they were on long-term contracts and settled in WA with young families. You can't just tell them "hey I know you've given a lot to our club but our on-field performance is putrid now and you don't fit in our next premiership window, so we're trading you to play out the rest of your career in Melbourne."

That's exactly what we should've done for a couple of them. At the end of 21 when it became glaringly obvious that our game style/plan had been picked apart by teams, the powers to be should have recognised (like the rest of us did) that speed of foot and speed of ball movement was the next iteration. We were a team full of plodders kick marking. We got arrogant and lazy. Even one player the calabre of Barrass or sheed or Yeo would've netted us some of what we coughed up for Kelly.

 

[Shueygod]

A matter of one month doesn't change the fact we will have to throw in extra if we intend on getting someone like Boxshall or Windhager coming to us in return.

What draft pick do you think Boxshall was taken at? He’s looked very good but was always the type likely to impact early.

 

[stallon]

Saints have offered contracts to

Cam McKenzie
Flanders
Ryan
TDK


Surely there is a cap squeeze.

Ryan deal has to be a player campaigners

If theyre getting in Flanders and McKenzie, then guys like Steele, Boxshall, etc HAVE to be on the table.

They wont have room for them all with Macrae, Poo, Nas, Windhager, Garcia, etc

 

[Monocle]

What position does he predominantly play? Tall forward?

Dougie can play anywhere down the spine.
His ground ball skills are like a nippy flanker and the kid has a set of quick wheels on him.

His agility combined with his height when added to his one touch skills plus he has no trouble finding his own football, it’s the combination of all these factors that are what makes him so special.

I can see a bit of a Naughton trajectory in that initially he comes in as a KPD and then quickly moves in the CHF position.

He and Shanahan as the two KPF would be a scary proposition for other teams.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

This is not the draft to land a great white hope. The top end talent and depth isn’t there. Of course it’s all speculative and there could be the next superstar in waiting, but all the draft gurus say otherwise. A couple of first rounders would be good for us but I wouldn’t overinvest in this draft. Instead we should look at trading to address our many list concerns. If part of our assistance package is FA access that does not affect OA compo, then we should at least grab Starcevich.

I would be torn on this. I’m a big Chad believer but at this point we would be better waiting two years and getting him as a FA. If Swans would accept one of our early picks then sure but they would want much more, especially in a weak draft, granted they need academy points this year and next.

If Curnow nominates Sydney and it opens up the Chad trade then of course we would bring him in. We are not in a position to say no to elite players his age (24), especially midfielders. I worry Swans would ask a lot for him and we would feel obliged to make it happen given we aren’t exactly a destination club right now. Of course we would prefer to get him for free in a couple of years as a FA.

Ideally Curnow nominates GC. They already need to shuffle their early picks and we hold the most points and flexibility to take advantage. Curnow would push out Walter who is already playing reserves and while our key forward stocks are good, he could be a monster and paired with Shanahan and A Reid long term would be awesome.

GC would be so keen for the optics of landing a genuine star that they could give up plenty to make it happen. We have interest in Davies but there is some other guys who would help solve our midfield issues too.

Flanders played midfield last year and averaged 30.9 touches, this year he’s been pushed out and averaged 18.8 even starting as the sub last week.

Fiorini is currently in the side but has always been the first one dropped and then has to bang the door down with huge VFL numbers to get a look in. He is a free agent.

Could either be swayed with more opportunity and security? We could desperately use a player like these that can actually accumulate the footy.

Moyle would be our number 1 ruck and Knobel is more competent back up than Livingstone or Barnett.

GC have a conveyer belt of academy prospects coming through so they can afford to lose some fringe midfielders or a depth ruck.

Freo could also be targeted with Erasmus, Brodie and Reidy all able to fill needs for us. Even NOD or Sharp for a wing.

We have so many list issues I think we really need to focus on some smart trade moves. Our midfield depth is so poor that almost every other team would have a couple of mids playing state league that would get a game every week for us.

It’s amazing to see some of the numbers being put up around the state leagues and then reading down our WAFL sides return on the weekend with ONE player above 20 disposals… and he’s not on our senior list. There’s reserves players on every list racking up numbers that we just don’t see. Look up Elijah Tsatas’ VFL stats. Gets 30-40 every week and can’t get a senior game for the Bombers who have a huge injury list. He is just one of many around the comp. Guys like Fin Macrae still getting around in the reserves.

Same with rucks. Back ups around the state leagues racking up 20 touches and 40+ hit outs while ours are getting monstered by non-AFL listed battlers.

Of course stats don’t show the whole picture and most of the guys I’m referring too have knocks on aspects of their game whether it be disposal/defence/pace but they don’t need to be world beaters to help our midfield. We haven’t had a midfielder get 30 touches all year. We need some guys who can get their hands on the footy and dish it out to Harley, Elijah and co.

Ideally it’s the 21 year olds who haven’t cemented their spot yet and are getting impatient or could be swayed with a decent deal. Sheldrick was ripe last year but has showed that if we wait too long we will miss the boat on guys like Erasmus when things click and establish themselves. Or occasionally they go backwards like DevRob. But once a player hits their straps the price goes up.

I would be happy to bring in some of:

20-24 year olds who are fringe or have upside
eg. 1-3 of Davies, Erasmus, DevRob, Sheldrick, Tsatas, Windhager

24-28 year olds who are fringe or played out of position
eg. 1-2 of Flanders, Fiorini, Brodie

Veteran leaders who have lost a step but have had individual and/or team success and high standards
eg. 1 of Cripps, Neale, Steele, Mitchell

Young KPPs
Walter and Busslinger are both OOC end of next year but could be swayed with more security. Wait a year and they may be out of contract but could have also established themselves and be worth more in trade. I have read some knocks on Busslinger but has played well in the VFL, was a high draft pick and not many KPDs show heaps at 21.

Ruck in order of preference

• Moyle
• Reidy
• Dodson
• Knobel

Obviously list spots pending after some more cuts and trades. I would love to draft another promising mid like Sharp but in a weak draft year and our list being so young it seems like the right time to also top up the list profile with some guys that have upside, fill needs (mostly midfield) and have a few years in the system.

Great post..the WAFL VFL comparison is so apt. We need mature players on our list. We take 3 top 10 picks in the draft and 3 FS/NGA, and then 3-4 trades.

Ryan trade has to be for a player. Wilson windhager steele

Gold coast pick swaps and Davies and /or moyle

Brisbane could be starcevich and Ah Chee.

We have to be asking the AFL for extra list spots and to prelist our NGAs
6 kids and 4 traded in would be a great boost to the rebuild.

 

[shooshka]

If we offered him a deal and he accepted and Brissy didn’t match they would still get the compo pick from the AFL that they would deserve from the offer? I suggest it wouldn’t be much due to bringing in 1 or 2 band 1 players.

Just won’t effect our band 1 compo

It interesting part of all this is it seems we have enough picks to go to the draft with and trade but not enough main list spots (without knowing the assistance package)

No, compo picks consider incoming FA’s + outgoing FA’s.

Hence we are asking for dispensation (bringing in Starcevich would change our OA compo from #2 to #20 or worse).

As Brisbane are bringing in OA, they get nothing for losing a FA that would net them a lesser compo pick.


Still makes no sense to me why we wouldn’t at least look to facilitate a trade with Brisbane though, as they will likely have pick 16-18, but need a heap more points for Annable.

Picks 30+48 for us are unlikely to be used, plus whatever Ryan is valued at. Massive opportunity to cash in on a superior points position (while points are actually more valuable than ever) for us - noting we’ll likely take 4 picks (plus academy) at absolute most

 

[Rowan18]

Barrass, who has the back issues of an 80 year old and said he couldn’t get out of bed some mornings, has played almost every game this year

He hasn't been flying as much and still missed games. He also moves like a guy with an 80 year old back. Can barely bend over to pick up the ball.

I'm sure Oscar will play some good games at Brisbane, but he will also miss games with knee issues from time to time. Is also at risk of having entire seasons affected like has happened twice in the last 3 years.

No stress if he helps them win a flag short term. But we need a guy who's still going strong in 4 or 5 years.

 

[eaglevision]

Still makes no sense to me why we wouldn’t at least look to facilitate a trade with Brisbane though, as they will likely have pick 16-18, but need a heap more points for Annable.

Picks 30+48 for us are unlikely to be used, plus whatever Ryan is valued at. Massive opportunity to cash in on a superior points position (while points are actually more valuable than ever) for us - noting we’ll likely take 4 picks (plus academy) at absolute most

There’s an opportunity cost here, we may not be using those picks but we can bundle them to trade up for Port’s pick or even Sydney’s.

Will be interesting to see how we deal with the Starcevich situation if he nominates us. Still think getting Neale’s salary off their books will be something they’d look at particularly if Draper heads there as well.

 

[Rowan18]

Great post..the WAFL VFL comparison is so apt. We need mature players on our list. We take 3 top 10 picks in the draft and 3 FS/NGA, and then 3-4 trades.

Ryan trade has to be for a player. Wilson windhager steele

Gold coast pick swaps and Davies and /or moyle

Brisbane could be starcevich and Ah Chee.

We have to be asking the AFL for extra list spots and to prelist our NGAs
6 kids and 4 traded in would be a great boost to the rebuild.

6 kids and 4 mature players would be a great result from priority assistance. It allows the team to get better now (4 mature) and keep building for the future. AFL is right to be reluctant to give clubs token picks to take young players, but things like more list spots and ability to place FA easier are things that actually improve a club. Soft Cap concessions would be another obvious one.

 

[Elite Pete]

No, compo picks consider incoming FA’s + outgoing FA’s.

Hence we are asking for dispensation (bringing in Starcevich would change our OA compo from #2 to #20 or worse).

As Brisbane are bringing in OA, they get nothing for losing a FA that would net them a lesser compo pick.


Still makes no sense to me why we wouldn’t at least look to facilitate a trade with Brisbane though, as they will likely have pick 16-18, but need a heap more points for Annable.

Picks 30+48 for us are unlikely to be used, plus whatever Ryan is valued at. Massive opportunity to cash in on a superior points position (while points are actually more valuable than ever) for us - noting we’ll likely take 4 picks (plus academy) at absolute most

Yes it’s considers incoming and outgoing we are apparently asking for it not to affect our band 1 if we landed Starcevich while losing Allen.

If Brissy landed both Allen and Draper I doubt they would get any compo for Starcevich. If they match our offer to him as trade would have to be done with something like you are saying. If not and AFL grant they ability we get him without affecting our compo.

 

[WCE777]

This is not the draft to land a great white hope. The top end talent and depth isn’t there. Of course it’s all speculative and there could be the next superstar in waiting, but all the draft gurus say otherwise. A couple of first rounders would be good for us but I wouldn’t overinvest in this draft. Instead we should look at trading to address our many list concerns. If part of our assistance package is FA access that does not affect OA compo, then we should at least grab Starcevich.

I would be torn on this. I’m a big Chad believer but at this point we would be better waiting two years and getting him as a FA. If Swans would accept one of our early picks then sure but they would want much more, especially in a weak draft, granted they need academy points this year and next.

If Curnow nominates Sydney and it opens up the Chad trade then of course we would bring him in. We are not in a position to say no to elite players his age (24), especially midfielders. I worry Swans would ask a lot for him and we would feel obliged to make it happen given we aren’t exactly a destination club right now. Of course we would prefer to get him for free in a couple of years as a FA.

Ideally Curnow nominates GC. They already need to shuffle their early picks and we hold the most points and flexibility to take advantage. Curnow would push out Walter who is already playing reserves and while our key forward stocks are good, he could be a monster and paired with Shanahan and A Reid long term would be awesome.

GC would be so keen for the optics of landing a genuine star that they could give up plenty to make it happen. We have interest in Davies but there is some other guys who would help solve our midfield issues too.

Flanders played midfield last year and averaged 30.9 touches, this year he’s been pushed out and averaged 18.8 even starting as the sub last week.

Fiorini is currently in the side but has always been the first one dropped and then has to bang the door down with huge VFL numbers to get a look in. He is a free agent.

Could either be swayed with more opportunity and security? We could desperately use a player like these that can actually accumulate the footy.

Moyle would be our number 1 ruck and Knobel is more competent back up than Livingstone or Barnett.

GC have a conveyer belt of academy prospects coming through so they can afford to lose some fringe midfielders or a depth ruck.

Freo could also be targeted with Erasmus, Brodie and Reidy all able to fill needs for us. Even NOD or Sharp for a wing.

We have so many list issues I think we really need to focus on some smart trade moves. Our midfield depth is so poor that almost every other team would have a couple of mids playing state league that would get a game every week for us.

It’s amazing to see some of the numbers being put up around the state leagues and then reading down our WAFL sides return on the weekend with ONE player above 20 disposals… and he’s not on our senior list. There’s reserves players on every list racking up numbers that we just don’t see. Look up Elijah Tsatas’ VFL stats. Gets 30-40 every week and can’t get a senior game for the Bombers who have a huge injury list. He is just one of many around the comp. Guys like Fin Macrae still getting around in the reserves.

Same with rucks. Back ups around the state leagues racking up 20 touches and 40+ hit outs while ours are getting monstered by non-AFL listed battlers.

Of course stats don’t show the whole picture and most of the guys I’m referring too have knocks on aspects of their game whether it be disposal/defence/pace but they don’t need to be world beaters to help our midfield. We haven’t had a midfielder get 30 touches all year. We need some guys who can get their hands on the footy and dish it out to Harley, Elijah and co.

Ideally it’s the 21 year olds who haven’t cemented their spot yet and are getting impatient or could be swayed with a decent deal. Sheldrick was ripe last year but has showed that if we wait too long we will miss the boat on guys like Erasmus when things click and establish themselves. Or occasionally they go backwards like DevRob. But once a player hits their straps the price goes up.

I would be happy to bring in some of:

20-24 year olds who are fringe or have upside
eg. 1-3 of Davies, Erasmus, DevRob, Sheldrick, Tsatas, Windhager

24-28 year olds who are fringe or played out of position
eg. 1-2 of Flanders, Fiorini, Brodie

Veteran leaders who have lost a step but have had individual and/or team success and high standards
eg. 1 of Cripps, Neale, Steele, Mitchell

Young KPPs
Walter and Busslinger are both OOC end of next year but could be swayed with more security. Wait a year and they may be out of contract but could have also established themselves and be worth more in trade. I have read some knocks on Busslinger but has played well in the VFL, was a high draft pick and not many KPDs show heaps at 21.

Ruck in order of preference

• Moyle
• Reidy
• Dodson
• Knobel

Obviously list spots pending after some more cuts and trades. I would love to draft another promising mid like Sharp but in a weak draft year and our list being so young it seems like the right time to also top up the list profile with some guys that have upside, fill needs (mostly midfield) and have a few years in the system.

great analysis of our list needs and options.
I am in the camp of extract the best players from the draft 1 & 2, use Hawks pick and then use everything else to trade in best 22 players in spots of need.

I actually think WC are doing this with our links to Ah Chee, Starcevich and others.
I am also of the thinking we have been linked to others not yet surfacing as this has been the way we conduct our business, behind closed doors and respectably.

We definitely need a competent ruck ASAP, R Marshall in the trade for Ryan would be ideal, Reidy probably falls to our next gettable target.

KPD players are our next need, whether that is a fringe player like Busslinger or Blight, or through the draft this year in players like Schubert in the first round to develop as a KPD or Ainsworth in the 2nd round.

 

[Monocle]

There’s an opportunity cost here, we may not be using those picks but we can bundle them to trade up for Port’s pick or even Sydney’s.

Will be interesting to see how we deal with the Starcevich situation if he nominates us. Still think getting Neale’s salary off their books will be something they’d look at particularly if Draper heads there as well.

Now I know this post will be laughed at and I will be told that this would never happen.

But if the AFL decide to not allow us to get Starcevich on our list, without compromising our OA compo pick.

Offer Brisbane a token trade and if they don’t accept it then call me a prick but then we just take Starcevich in the PSD.

Yeah yeah I know teams don’t use the PSD , but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t.

We need to explore and exploit every means to get better and if that pisses some other Clubs off, and is seen as giving the AFL the bird then so be it.

Being nice and polite isn’t going to help us get ahead.

 

[Couchpotato]

No, compo picks consider incoming FA’s + outgoing FA’s.

Hence we are asking for dispensation (bringing in Starcevich would change our OA compo from #2 to #20 or worse).

As Brisbane are bringing in OA, they get nothing for losing a FA that would net them a lesser compo pick.


Still makes no sense to me why we wouldn’t at least look to facilitate a trade with Brisbane though, as they will likely have pick 16-18, but need a heap more points for Annable.

Picks 30+48 for us are unlikely to be used, plus whatever Ryan is valued at. Massive opportunity to cash in on a superior points position (while points are actually more valuable than ever) for us - noting we’ll likely take 4 picks (plus academy) at absolute most

I wonder if the reporting is slightly off on us asking for FA dispensation?

As someone said earlier - Perhaps we are asking for extra FA / Draft 'points' to be able to trade for players or use towards Free Agent compensation.

Starcevich and pick ~18 for pick 30 + 48 + magic points from AFL. WC get pick 2, 18 and Starcevich.

Allows Brisbane to get Annable and OA, at the expense of pick 18 and Starcevich - who Brisbane were likely to lose to FA anyway.

It's draft assistance without creating a new draft pick, and Brisbane are paying the FA 'price' as opposed to the rest of the competition.

Only someone who was recently employed by Brisbane could make such a thing happen though....

 

[stallon]

Now I know this post will be laughed at and I will be told that this would never happen.

But if the AFL decide to not allow us to get Starcevich on our list, without compromising our OA compo pick.

Offer Brisbane a token trade and if they don’t accept it then call me a prick but then we just take Starcevich in the PSD.

and bid on Annable at pick 1

Yeah yeah I know teams don’t use the PSD , but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t.

We need to explore and exploit every means to get better and if that pisses some other Clubs off, and is seen as giving the AFL the bird then so be it.

Being nice and polite isn’t going to help us get ahead.

 

[mattyc75]

It's quite amazing our ability to bring in players that aren't midfielders
So far..

 

[The Gtrain]

Given the retirement of Sheed and McGovern, and the potential loss of Allan and Ryan, surely we have a boatload of money in the cap.

Any chance we might go after a big fish?

I wonder whether we will have a crack at Petracca or Oliver.

 

[JackOutback]

We should take Starcevich and Tunstill and Ah Chee and Neale and Dev and basically, Brisbane won't be able to field a full side next year, so that's one less team to worry about.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

We should take Starcevich and Tunstill and Ah Chee and Neale and Dev and basically, Brisbane won't be able to field a full side next year, so that's one less team to worry about.

They won't be able to field a VFL side.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

It's quite amazing our ability to bring in players that aren't midfielders
So far..

or quick.

 

[WCE777]

I wonder whether we will have a crack at Petracca or Oliver.

Interesting with McQualters previous relationships, I would say no Petracca wouldn't come, Oliver has a few issues we would prefer not to have.
Better chance of removing Rivers early imo.

 

[Elite Pete]

DOCKERS OR DOGS? MID'S BIG CALL​

The Western Bulldogs are among the Victorian clubs interested in Erasmus, while West Coast has also been linked to the Subiaco product.

Article about Erasmus. Does still have us with interest in the article but not as strong as Rhino has indicated previously.

Hopefully we have a mid locked (and it’s not Starcevich possibly playing there)

 

[The Gtrain]

Must be heavily in to Starcevich

Hird seems to be forgetting how Essendon won a premiership in 2000 and got a priority pick in 2006

 

[Kegs15]

Now I know this post will be laughed at and I will be told that this would never happen.

But if the AFL decide to not allow us to get Starcevich on our list, without compromising our OA compo pick.

Offer Brisbane a token trade and if they don’t accept it then call me a prick but then we just take Starcevich in the PSD.

Yeah yeah I know teams don’t use the PSD , but that doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t.

We need to explore and exploit every means to get better and if that pisses some other Clubs off, and is seen as giving the AFL the bird then so be it.

Being nice and polite isn’t going to help us get ahead.

Absolutely agree

It's also not like Starcevich is Warner or Charlie Curnow or anything like that - we're not utterly breaking the system by doing it that way.

With the DFA/Preseason signings now the PSD feels utterly pointless. Literally the only use I can see is in this exact scenario - as an equalisation measure it should give us extra power in negotiations over the reigning premiers, which is surely the point of it.

I actually would quite like if it became more widely acceptable to use - would give teams down the bottom more freedom in trades, let them be the aggressors in trade periods previously dominated by Geelong etc.