List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

[Keys]

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Byron_Clanger]

Honestly don't mind if Liam Ryan

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Liam Ryan

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29

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8.6

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2.7

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3.0

3star

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2.0

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1.3

5star

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9.9

3star

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8.0

3star

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1.9

1star

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3.3

3star

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1.6

3star

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1.3

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11.4

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9.0

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2.4

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3.8

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1.8

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1.6

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asked for a trade..if the club ain't gonna have the balls to make moves on players then have the players force their hands.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

If Tom Gross got the numbers in the WAFL Erasmus did daddy eyes and everyone else on our board would be outside lathlain with pitchforks if he wasn’t selected in the AFL team.

Really???

After being at the game on Friday, it is less about the numbers Gross gets and more about where he gets them and what he does.

Talking to a colleague at the game, Hall was mentioned as getting higher numbers. I countered with Hall having more touches but less impact

 

[Keys]

The gettable discussion on Parfitt

No insight as to whether we’re interested just that he’s right under our noses and should be on an AFL list

 

[briztoon]

If it's not band one we match and force a trade

We won’t trade, and you have matched so he stays. Because you have matched, you can’t then go to a second club to see if they want to do a deal.

In such a scenario, possibly best option is to package your compensation pick and your second round pick, and trade up for a first round pick.

 

[Cuzz09]

Flyin Ryan for Jedd Walter

Had to laugh at "Chesser (no clubs linked)"

Hope he has at least 1 last crack in the AFL with us

 

[Broken_Chairs]

There has been rumours but no actual media confirmation like this that I know of

Do we trust tradies/gettable though? Their job is to create 30min of trade content each week. Looking at how few trades happen during trade week - I'm not sure their hit rate is great.

 

[Scotland]

We won’t trade, and you have matched so he stays. Because you have matched, you can’t then go to a second club to see if they want to do a deal.

In such a scenario, possibly best option is to package your compensation pick and your second round pick, and trade up for a first round pick.

Why are you still here?

If WC match a free agency offer for Allen his options are exactly the same as any other uncontracted player. He can stay, request a trade or go into the draft.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Re. Allen - he's our captain, he's from WA and grew up supporting the club.

My assumption is he wants to stay but wants his contract to reflects what he is worth. He clearly thinks he's worth more than the contract we've put forward & he's exploring his options - his perogative.

If his value is falling because of his form this year (the goddamn anti-stringer, just our luck), he'll need to reconsider how he values himself - & it might just align with our valuation.

I would guess he chooses to sign our shitty contract offer rather than choosing to accept a shitty contract offer elsewhere

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I think it is probably more a case of Ryan wanting to force a contract extension than wanting to move clubs. He hasn't been on the park and playing well much in the last few years. This year so far he has and his management are trying to cash in on that and get an extension while the sun is shining. If they wait until next year to ask for an extension he might be injured again and the terms he can realistically ask for go down. The club should do nothing since he is still contracted anyway, let other clubs come to us with an offer if they want to and if not then start contract negotiations with him after next pre season.

 

[stinger05]

The club should start having meetings with clubs about the Harley trade, and see what the potential gain is from trading him.

Have a 6 month auction instead of letting list managers do dodgy deals till there's only 2 clubs bidding.

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

We won’t trade, and you have matched so he stays. Because you have matched, you can’t then go to a second club to see if they want to do a deal.

In such a scenario, possibly best option is to package your compensation pick and your second round pick, and trade up for a first round pick.

I’m not sure that’s how it works.

If we were to match, Oscar had 7 days to accept our offer. If he doesn’t then my understanding he is able to traded. While it would be unusual, in that scenario I don’t think any trade is restricted to just the two clubs. Example- we could match the offfer lapse after 7 days and at that point any club could potentally trade for Allen.

One thing Oscars manager would want clarity on from Brisbane is what if it’s not bans 1 and West Coast match.

If the answer was “we wouldn’t trade for Oscar” I’m not sure how he or his manager would feel about such a conditional commitment.

It’s definitley a bit of a game of chicken.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Why are you still here?

If WC match a free agency offer for Allen his options are exactly the same as any other uncontracted player. He can stay, request a trade or go into the draft.

He is still here because you keep replying to him. If we ignore the fuqor, he will eventually realise he is irrelevant and then leave.

 

[mat11]

Have to be very careful with LiamRyan. He is a high quality player and yes we could do with some more picks but we can't let him slip for nothing. We let Barass walk for 18> and 30> etc and thought we could cover him with HarryEdwards and now we have egg on our face. Oscar leaving generates a top5 pick and we'd be terribly unlucky if AReid, JWilliams or Shanahan don't make it so it makes sense. Ryan leaving for anything less than 18< would be devastating as Rawlinson, Brockman, Owies and Long to a lesser extent arent much chop.

 

[Deplorable trumpster]

I’m not sure that’s how it works.

If we were to match, Oscar had 7 days to accept our offer. If he doesn’t then my understanding he is able to traded. While it would be unusual, in that scenario I don’t think any trade is restricted to just the two clubs. Example- we could match the offfer lapse after 7 days and at that point any club could potentally trade for Allen.

One thing Oscars manager would want clarity on from Brisbane is what if it’s not bans 1 and West Coast match.

If the answer was “we wouldn’t trade for Oscar” I’m not sure how he or his manager would feel about such a conditional commitment.

It’s definitley a bit of a game of chicken.

I think Brisbane would be in communication with us and wouldn't make a formal written offer unless they had checked with us that we would accept it. And i don't think Allen's manager would put in a formal trade request unless they were confident the deal was going to get done either.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Have to be very careful with LiamRyan. He is a high quality player and yes we could do with some more picks but we can't let him slip for nothing. We let Barass walk for 18> and 30> etc and thought we could cover him with HarryEdwards and now we have egg on our face. Oscar leaving generates a top5 pick and we'd be terribly unlucky if AReid, JWilliams or Shanahan don't make it so it makes sense. Ryan leaving for anything less than 18< would be devastating as Rawlinson, Brockman, Owies and Long to a lesser extent arent much chop.

I said last year we shouldn’t let Ryan leave for anything less than a top 10 pick, even though he clearly isn’t worth that on the market, because he’s worth that to us.

That is to say, like you’ve pointed out, the creative cupboard is incredibly bare behind him, and we get more value from playing him and having some sort of forward craft available than we do by selling him for a pick in the mid 20s pushed to the 40s by bids and draft nonsense.

He’s having a great season thus far, long may it continue. If it pushes his market value back into that first round tier (doubtful given his age) then maybe you have that chat, but he’s worth so much more to us than market rate for the time being.

 

[Scotland]

I’m not sure that’s how it works.

If we were to match, Oscar had 7 days to accept our offer. If he doesn’t then my understanding he is able to traded. While it would be unusual, in that scenario I don’t think any trade is restricted to just the two clubs. Example- we could match the offfer lapse after 7 days and at that point any club could potentally trade for Allen.

One thing Oscars manager would want clarity on from Brisbane is what if it’s not bans 1 and West Coast match.

If the answer was “we wouldn’t trade for Oscar” I’m not sure how he or his manager would feel about such a conditional commitment.

It’s definitley a bit of a game of chicken.

Not really sure how you stay with your existing club after they don't match...

 

[Cuzz09]

Re. Allen - he's our captain, he's from WA and grew up supporting the club.

My assumption is he wants to stay but wants his contract to reflects what he is worth. He clearly thinks he's worth more than the contract we've put forward & he's exploring his options - his perogative.

If his value is falling because of his form this year (the goddamn anti-stringer, just our luck), he'll need to reconsider how he values himself - & it might just align with our valuation.

I would guess he chooses to sign our shitty contract offer rather than choosing to accept a shitty contract offer elsewhere

then he'll really put in

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Liam Ryan

31

Liam Ryan

Age

29

Ht

181cm

Wt

76kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

8.6

3star

HB

2.7

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.0

4star

G

1.3

5star

D

9.9

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

1.9

1star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.6

3star

G

1.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

9.0

4star

HB

2.4

3star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

1.6

5star

is a pointless trade. AFL should be giving us whatever his trade value is in priority picks anyway

 

[Dom sheed pocket]

Just a question, now that we are seemingly going down this route of trading out Oscar maximising our draft hand, what is the likelihood that Waterman turns around this year or next and decides to chase a flag.

My sense is we sold Waterman a vision of him and Oscar up forward, get a couple of guys from Richmond to help stabilise the list, let Harry take TB’s spot and we might be closer to finals than what people externally think.

My sense is the strategy has dramatically shifted since then, and it’s an open question of how waterman reacts if that is indeed the case .

 

[Elite Pete]

Ryan isn't leaving, his manager went fishing last contract/same deal this time.

There was smoke not long after he signed his last contract. I think it’s real. What’s the deal that gets it done. Suns seem the perfect fit, if we can’t get a Will Powell or Alex Davies back with a some picks to even it out. Let it happen. We can even pay his salary next year for a shine first round pick.

Parfitt, if he was a live option WC would have offered a train on spot earlier this year.

Don’t agree. As the season has gone on the need has grown stronger. Duggan started in the midfield and hasn’t cut it, the unknown for Yeos injury. Mini and team would know this now. Really need a 2nd list spot opened up.

Starcevich, if WC were to entertain a deal it would need to be 4 years and heaps of clauses regarding concussion, no imo.

I doubt he would accept that. Not a live option unless Oscar stays really.

Oscar, I still feel he is staying, he will have to accept the WC offer and the clauses or the straight deal on less.

Maybe…

Chesser, would be nice if someone offered us a decent pick for him, I think both Chesser OOC and Petch as a UFA will be determined by what WC can get in MSD and if we get a B grade mid to help around the midfield.
If we get a decent player through the MSD and another through trade I can see both gone.

ain’t getting anything decent

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

No offence to the guy but he seems a bit slow brained. Even at WAFL level last week he struggled to pick up what was going on. If you're struggling at reserves level then there is no way he should be getting a call up any time soon.

I've been a defender of Harry (admit I have been wrong) but one thing that really irks me about him is his body language. Drops the head and mopes as soon as his direct opponent marks inside 50. White flag stuff, no room for it in the side

 

[bradz]

Just a question, now that we are seemingly going down this route of trading out Oscar maximising our draft hand, what is the likelihood that Waterman turns around this year or next and decides to chase a flag.

My sense is we sold Waterman a vision of him and Oscar up forward, get a couple of guys from Richmond to help stabilise the list, let Harry take TB’s spot and we might be closer to finals than what people externally think.

My sense is the strategy has dramatically shifted since then, and it’s an open question of how waterman reacts if that is indeed the case .

That may be the vision that was sold to him, but he would be very happy with the way JWilliams has progressed. So whether its OA or JW in the forward line with him I dont think he is going anywhere.

 

[Wce17]

Why is everyone so quick to want to get rid of Chesser?

His first year was wiped out by a Fremantle player busting his ankle which he’s had to have follow up surgery on this year & then Simpson & the match selectors have really screwed him over with the way he’s been used on the wing.

Yes he’s played a number of games but he’s a kid who’s been playing for an absolute rabble of a side. The senior players can’t even perform up to standard.

It’s his forth year, we have a new coach, a new game plan. He has shown glimpses of attributes that we actually need so hopefully he gets a good chance.

Plently of players to delist/trade before him but seems like most people have written him off. Sheppard & Glass where both written off & then game good

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Just a question, now that we are seemingly going down this route of trading out Oscar maximising our draft hand, what is the likelihood that Waterman turns around this year or next and decides to chase a flag.

My sense is we sold Waterman a vision of him and Oscar up forward, get a couple of guys from Richmond to help stabilise the list, let Harry take TB’s spot and we might be closer to finals than what people externally think.

My sense is the strategy has dramatically shifted since then, and it’s an open question of how waterman reacts if that is indeed the case .

This is how Pyke was talking. Saying he was going to get some quick results on the board. He basically put himself before the Club. It doesn't take Einstein to work out that if Baker and Graham weren't making a difference at Richmond, they wouldn't make one here, either.

Hopefully, they now know there are no short cuts. Just accumulate talent from the draft, then grab a couple of expats when the time is right.

 

[Elite Pete]

We won’t trade, and you have matched so he stays. Because you have matched, you can’t then go to a second club to see if they want to do a deal.

In such a scenario, possibly best option is to package your compensation pick and your second round pick, and trade up for a first round pick.

And that’s just not going to happen.

His manager won’t let him agree to a RFA deal with another club if he didn’t know the Eagles would be happy with their compo and if they ain’t, the team is willing to get the deal done.

Because he ain’t coming back if he has signed at another club. This is the NBA and the afl world ain’t ready for that.