List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[eaglevision]

Seems like Oscar has had a reality check this season and probably adjusted to his market value. My bet would be that he stays.

Harley extending would be fantastic.

The draft watchers here will be so disappointed when both stay, we win a few more games and end up with pick 2/3 and whatever Hawks R1 is.

I’d be disappointed if Oscar stays, I think a new start is in the best interests of both club and player.

Under no circumstance do I want Harley to leave. Just sets our rebuild back two years for a player in the midfield, let alone losing a player as good as he is.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Not sure about other draft watchers, but my strongest desire is to see Harley extend and for Oscar to show the form of 2023 and get a new contract with us. We still have a strong 2025 draft hand in 2 x R1 (with one of them at the pointy end) and 2 x R2 with our strongest NGA/FS group ever.

From my perspective, if it is stick and pick with our own R1, I am not worried whether it is pick 1 2 or 3. That said, IF CDT and Duursma continue to be seen as the top 2 picks, I am happy sliding back if we end up with pick 1 as I think there will be strong offers for both. CDT would be an ideal pick for the Drug Rats and I see them also loving Duursma. It will all depend on where the lower of their R1 picks are but I would seriously look at a deal of pick 1 and pick 19 for picks 5 and 9 plus Zach Reid.

What deal would I want with Oscar? Firstly he needs to accept his body is his weakness and cannot expect us to offer a monster deal in years. I like the way the NFL have guarantees money and total deal publicised as the much lower guaranteed money is what we need to be doing with Oscar. Next, and also linked to being able to stay to the park, he is not a million dollar player. Go back to 2023 form and he will earn it. A baseline of $600k then the upside to earn up to $1.2 mln, but only if he deserves it.

I'd like to keep Oscar if a reasonable deal can be sorted.

Though if we do sign Oscar - I think we need a real solid plan for our other KPP:

• J Williams
• A Reid
• Shanahan

We likely don't need 5 KPF when we are struggling in the KPD are.

Assuming Gov ever gets through his concussion protocols, he prob only has 1-2 seasons left at best. HEdwards is a bit too slow for my liking, Brock & Bazzo look good but still raw.

One of the above probably need to become a KPD - A Reid seems the best option given Shanahan's efficiency infront of goal.

 

[mitchzz]

Wonder if Sam Flanders might be gettable as an accumulating mid? Pushed out of the Suns backline and mids after averaging 31 touches last season. Still young

Also Jordon Sweet, who we've previously gone after can't get a game at the moment. Would surely be an upgrade over Flynn

Both are contracted though and don't have any WA ties as far as I'm aware

 

[bzparkes]

Wonder if Sam Flanders might be gettable as an accumulating mid? Pushed out of the Suns backline and mids after averaging 31 touches last season. Still young

Also Jordon Sweet, who we've previously gone after can't get a game at the moment. Would surely be an upgrade over Flynn

Both are contracted though and don't have any WA ties as far as I'm aware

We've tried Sweet a few times now.

He's just not that into us.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Good call but I think the option was Langford at pick 3 or Bo, Baker and Graham in splitting it. I believe Liam and Jack had agreed with Clarke that they were a package deal, one as a FA and one that would be a late R1. The fact that Richmond took so long to get the Suns and Freo deals done, our hand was forced early with the FA window closing before the trade window.

In hindsight, if we had got the Barrass deal done early and agreed on their 2024 R1 (14) and F2, we could have kept 3 and passed 14 to the Tigers for Baker. and still had the extra F2. Then it would have been a case of Langford, Baker, Graham, Shanahan, Oliver, et al. So the real comparison is probably Langford v's Allan and who we pick up with at the Hawks R1 this year. Time will tell on it.

Good points - yes the Barrass deal was a real cluster with Hawks pulling the rug out & trading 14 for whatever reason... (i.e. shitcampaignerary)

Hawks 1st, 2nd & 3rd picks could turn out horrible - picks 22, 39 & 55. A grim return on a player as good as Barrass.

Though perhaps it worked out for the best if we really were rating Bo & Shanahan with our first two picks anyways.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

As sponsor or Archer Reid (20) this year, I want to be passionate but realistic. I believe the best thing for him and the club is for Archer to be our future KPD star. Edwards (25) and Brock (23) were good on the weekend but I would see them as depth once we get a stronger team. Archer showed in his draft year he can play both KPF and KPD and my personal view is that he is a better CHB. He is 204 cm and would be very capable as a KPD who can also chop out in the ruck (like Blicavs and SdK at the Cats).

I believe Shanahan (19) will be a better KPF within 2 to 3 years and with Oscar (26), Waterman (27), J Williams (22) and B Williams (25) as other tall forward options, we need to move at least one into defence. I am also open to training Shanahan up over the summer to be our full back of the short term future and then moving him forward once Waterman and Oscar are done. If Oscar leaves on FA, then we look at Cody Curtin in the draft.

Sunday was the first game that I thought B Williams actually looked the part up front. Pleasing

(Note - I included the ages they turn in 2025 as it shows that only Snake and Oscar will be over 25.)

 

[JackOutback]

Some people have been talking Reid up as a potential ruck, is that a realistic option? Kills two birds with one stone.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Some people have been talking Reid up as a potential ruck, is that a realistic option? Kills two birds with one stone.

Archer's ruck craft looks pretty good and decidedly better than Barnett (the later is not that hard). He competed very well in the ruck when thrown into it this season.

He is still only 19 (birthday 19/11/05) and 204 cm and he has a decent leap on him. The games I have seen him play so far have made me think he may be our future ruck. Probably a bit early to assess it yet but a real possibility. Let's face it, we need a better No 1 ruck and a really top end KPD. If Archer can be either, it would help our list build.

 

[Cuzz09]

Can only be good for all involved if Oscar has a 2nd half of season form boost

I'm wary of the comedown after a win, particularly playing Adelaide at AO again, like last years win v Melb.

Could be brought back to reality very quickly.

 

[WCE777]

Good call but I think the option was Langford at pick 3 or Bo, Baker and Graham in splitting it. I believe Liam and Jack had agreed with Clarke that they were a package deal, one as a FA and one that would be a late R1. The fact that Richmond took so long to get the Suns and Freo deals done, our hand was forced early with the FA window closing before the trade window.

In hindsight, if we had got the Barrass deal done early and agreed on their 2024 R1 (14) and F2, we could have kept 3 and passed 14 to the Tigers for Baker. and still had the extra F2. Then it would have been a case of Langford, Baker, Graham, Shanahan, Oliver, et al. So the real comparison is probably Langford v's Allan and who we pick up with at the Hawks R1 this year. Time will tell on it.

In terms of negotiations, it is so often a case of timing and options. Clarke not getting clarity on the Barrass trade yet going hard on the Baker trade was his flaw. Timing was everything. That said, maybe it took until the last hour for the Hawks to get more realistic on the Barrass trade. The best list managers usually have it sewn up before they are forced to react. The Hawks ended up getting Barrass for the own pick 14 (which they sold to the Blues for a F1 and F2) plus their own F3 with our F4 coming back. Why did we not do Barrass for pick 14 plus Hawks F3 early?

beautifully explained, I am not unhappy with Baker/Graham and Allan as a whole and the proof will be in who we get with the Hawks 1st.
Draft and trade period as a whole in 2024 would have to be a very good tick, where would we be without Baker and Graham in our side!
Our 2024 draft already looks stacked with talent and exceeding expectations, can't say I am unhappy with any of them!

 

[WCE777]

Archer's ruck craft looks pretty good and decidedly better than Barnett (the later is not that hard). He competed very well in the ruck when thrown into it this season.

He is still only 19 (birthday 19/11/05) and 204 cm and he has a decent leap on him. The games I have seen him play so far have made me think he may be our future ruck. Probably a bit early to assess it yet but a real possibility. Let's face it, we need a better No 1 ruck and a really top end KPD. If Archer can be either, it would help our list build.

100% agree with your analysis of A Reid, if he can be either he will be a steal.
Looks to be more talented than most, 3 years time Archer looks elite.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

I’d be disappointed if Oscar stays, I think a new start is in the best interests of both club and player.

Under no circumstance do I want Harley to leave. Just sets our rebuild back two years for a player in the midfield, let alone losing a player as good as he is.

Agree.
It's not that I don't love Oscar, but we need to build a balanced list. He's high currency in an area of the field which we have plenty of talent.

The days of 1 club players and unconditional loyalty (by both parties) are disappearing. Players are increasingly acting in their own best interest and cashing in when the opportunity arises and some clubs have woken up to the fact that they need to do likewise.

Not at all advocating for acting in a manner that may damage club culture or player morale. But we're in an 18 team comp, flags don't come easily and we need to make every opportunity count.

 

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I believe we are looking at 3 wa boys for mid season draft
Selwood
Murdoch who we looked at previously
Bevan who had a great game on weekend

 

[Keys]

My heart wants Oscar to stay, my head says from a list management perspective we’re better off with the high end draft pick we get as FA compensation if he goes

Aside from the optics of a club captain leaving a year after the vice captain did the same a year ago, Allen was meant to, and still could, be the golden child. Lifelong eagles supporter, bleeds for the club and showed in 2023 just how good he can be. Being voted in by the playing group to lead them shows he’s clearly popular inside the club. Losing someone of his stature would be a blow despite his poor form to start the year

However, being pragmatic, we stand to gain a top 5 draft pick (possibly pick 2) as FA compensation for a player who has been injury prone this far and in all reality has only had one outstanding year. Having him sign for 5 years, which is what he’ll get, on close to, or above $1m a season is a risk - and the type of risk that has blown up in our faces in recent years. He also plays a position we have reasonable depth in with the likes of Jack Williams, Archer Reid and Jobe Shanahan coming through

So it’s Oscar for another 5 years thereabouts or a chance to draft another high end mid to go with our natural R1 pick (noting that having picks 1&2 or 2&3 opens up the possibility of trading down one of those picks to generate an extra pick)

The reality is either option is a good outcome

 

[Monocle]

I believe we are looking at 3 wa boys for mid season draft
Selwood
Murdoch who we looked at previously
Bevan who had a great game on weekend

Is than Kane Bevan - WP ?

 

[southcoast]

Our first win perhaps?

This didn’t age very well.

 

[Wce17]

I believe we are looking at 3 wa boys for mid season draft
Selwood
Murdoch who we looked at previously
Bevan who had a great game on weekend

Who would be your choice out of those 3?

 

[Keys]

Is than Kane Bevan - WP ?

Was just researching this myself

Sounds like he had a really strong hitout for the WAFL u/21s against the u/18s as BOG

Just turned 21 and at 192cm is a good size for a mid

Write up about him here following the trial match

https://archive.is/k4OLG

The beagles play West Perth this weekend so we’ll get a first hand look at him then just prior to the draft

 

[WCE777]

I believe we are looking at 3 wa boys for mid season draft
Selwood
Murdoch who we looked at previously
Bevan who had a great game on weekend

You might be right.
Don't know much about Bevan except he was BOG in the U21 game and won the WP colts medal in his colts year.
He looks to be a big inside mid?
What are his good and bad points or more of an overview if anyone has seen him play?

 

[eaglevision]

I believe we are looking at 3 wa boys for mid season draft
Selwood
Murdoch who we looked at previously
Bevan who had a great game on weekend

Bevan was superb for the 21s. Inside, outside, decision making and disposal were all very good, lost count of how many inside 50s he had.

 

[WCE777]

Was just researching this myself

Sounds like he had a really strong hitout for the WAFL u/21s against the u/18s as BOG

Just turned 21 and at 192cm is a good size for a mid

Write up about him here following the trial match

https://archive.is/k4OLG

The beagles play West Perth this weekend so we’ll get a first hand look at him then just prior to the draft

Brilliant Keys

 

[Monocle]

Was just researching this myself

Sounds like he had a really strong hitout for the WAFL u/21s against the u/18s as BOG

Just turned 21 and at 192cm is a good size for a mid

Write up about him here following the trial match

https://archive.is/k4OLG

The beagles play West Perth this weekend so we’ll get a first hand look at him then just prior to the draft

He is a good size 192 cm and 87 kg.

He is an aggressive player who doesn't shirk physicality , has an edge to the way he plays, that I like.


Draft year and with WP Colts that year.




On the weekend.

 

[WCE777]

Bevan was superb for the 21s. Inside, outside, decision making and disposal were all very good, lost count of how many inside 50s he had.

thanks

 

[TOA.]

Bevan sounds like a good option just on the write ups. What's his kicking like? Will probably make or break him as he seems to have other attributes

 

[UseR2006]

Here's his Rookie Me from his draft year

Kane Bevan Draft Profile

West Perth skipper Kane Bevan has collected many accolades across his top-age campaign, as a consistent inside midfielder with good size.

central.rookieme.com