List Mgmt. Contracts/Trade/Draft Thread - 2025 Edition

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Players out of Contract 2025 (12)

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• Oscar Allen (19/3/99) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2022 in May 2021
• Campbell Chesser (27/4/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in May 2022
• Tom Cole (28/5/97) - Signed a 3 year extension (2023-25) in May 2022
• Rhett Bazzo (17/10/03) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) on an existing contract due to expire 2023 in September 2022
• Jayden Hunt (3/4/95) - Signed a 3 year contract (2023-25) in October 2022
• Callum Jamieson (31/7/00) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in March 2023
• Jamie Cripps (23/4/92) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• Jack Petruccelle (12/4/99) - Signed a 2 year extension (2024-25) in August 2023
• (R) Loch Rawlinson (1/6/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Coen Livingstone (25/5/05) - Signed a 1 year extension (2025) in September 2024
• (R-B) Malakai Champion (17/5/06) - Automatic 1 year contract (2025) when added as a Cat B Rookie in November 2024
• (R) Jacob Newton (20/3/06/) - Automatic 6 month contract (2025) when drafted in May 2025

Provisional 2025 Draft order

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[Ruben Grubarb]

No idea what your thoughts are on Duggan are and frankly couldn’t give a shit. Lindsay doesn’t have to come into the 22 straight away and be the man.

In four years when Lindsay is 22 and we’re having a crack at finals he’s exactly the type of player we need in the modern game. What’s your plan then? Draft an 18yo for that role?

Your ignorance and narrow minded thinking is for the now and not for the future. Recruiters are drafting now for a side in four years time and shit yeah I want a player like Lindsay in that team who can slice teams open.

My plan is to take this player in the next few drafts. If we acquire a pick around 7 this year, consider taking him. If he's available at Hawks R1, strongly consider taking him.

Let me spell this out slowly:

Outside players rarely get taken top 5 for good reason.
When you're top 5, prioritise balanced mids and bulls.
As you start moving up the ladder, you start moving back in the draft order. This is the opportune time to take Josh Lindsay type players. You're starting to get good. You're starting to win contests around the ground. This type of player can make your team pop.

When you're at the top of the draft, you have access to the best balanced mids, bulls, and outside players. When you start moving up the ladder, you lose access to the top balanced mids and bulls, but still have access to the top outsiders. Do the maths.

I don't think you're in a position to call anyone else ignorant, champ.

 

[Marlin01]

Is there a speedy, beautiful kicker in the draft this year?

 

[eaglevision]

My plan is to take this player in the next few drafts. If we acquire a pick around 7 this year, consider taking him. If he's available at Hawks R1, strongly consider taking him.

Let me spell this out slowly:

Outside players rarely get taken top 5 for good reason.
When you're top 5, prioritise balanced mids and bulls.
As you start moving up the ladder, you start moving back in the draft order. This is the opportune time to take Josh Lindsay type players. You're staring to get good. You're starting to win contest around the ground. This type of player can make your team pop.

When you're at the top of the draft, you have access to the best balanced mids, bulls, and outside players. When you start moving up the ladder, you lose access to the top balanced mids and bulls, but still have access to the top outsiders. Do the maths.

Your plan is to take this type of player in the next few drafts but you’d also take him this year at 7? Makes sense.

If we take Sharp at 1 and can get Cumming or Grlj at 7 there’s no issue taking Lindsay at 2.

There is nowhere near the inside talent this year to say we can’t be using a top 5 pick on Lindsay.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Is there a speedy, beautiful kicker in the draft this year?

Yep. And next. And the year after.

Is the best bull available this year? Yep. But probably not next year nor the year after depending on our ladder position.

 

[Marlin01]

Yep. And next. And the year after.

Is the best bull available this year? Yep. But probably not next year nor the year after depending on our ladder position.

Who is it this season?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

-Taking a guess Saints would like TDK and an outside player to bolster their midfield ie Duursma/Lindsay who could be gone by their first pick. I'd have Cameron and Marshall at parity with a point of difference being Saints slide keeps us in the window to draft high end talent still.

WCE trade - 1 + 32
St Kilda trade - 4 + Rowan Marshall

WCE trade 14 + 19
GC trade - 8

Pick 2 - Sharp
Pick 4 (becomes 6) - Cummings
Pick 8 (becomes 11/12) - Rodriguez/Grlj/HHG
Pick 50 (becomes 40) - best avaliable KPB
Rookie - Williams
Rookie - Banfield
Rowan Marshall

List Omissions;
Petrucelle
Jameison
Rawlinson
Hunt
Livingstone
Cripps (retire)
Mcgovern (retire)
Allen (trade FA)

Edit* NHH not HHG

Grljn at 6 is a big reach.

Evans will be an Eagle. He's our best NGA prospects to date, better than Collard.

Banfield is comfortably a top 40 prospect.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Your plan is to take this type of player in the next few drafts but you’d also take him this year at 7? Makes sense.

If we take Sharp at 1 and can get Cumming or Grlj at 7 there’s no issue taking Lindsay at 2.

There is nowhere near the inside talent this year to say we can’t be using a top 5 pick on Lindsay.

I'll possibly take him this year, just not with 1 or 2. Otherwise, I'll just grab him next year, or the year after.

You know 2 come before 7, right?

Just how many insiders do you think we should be taking? I would have thought you take Sharp and then take the best player available who is not Greeves. Or maybe split, if the player we want will still be available.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Who is it this season?

Sharp, I'd imagine, but if you think it's someone else, go for your life.

 

[MaxHunt]

Grljn at 6 is a big reach.

Evans will be an Eagle. He's our best NGA prospects to date, better than Collard.

Banfield is comfortably a top 40 prospect.

Didn't Collard go around the 20 mark? You think Evans will get an early bid?

 

[jdisc]

Is there a speedy, beautiful kicker in the draft this year?

 

[Eastern Rangers]

In this year's draft I think picks 1 through to 8 are around the same tier. Marshall is goneski Im not sure why we wouldn't have a crack. In my ideal scenario I've facilitated a good ruckman and 3 top 10 picks. Missing out on Sharp BTW isn't worth losing sleep over this isn't the 2001/2023/2024 draft class' for context.

If your overlooking Sharp for someone like Duursma or Grlj then you're running the risk of losing a 300 gamer for a player that won't make it.

If you're losing Sharp for two of Hardgreaves, Cummings, Lindsay then you're doing a trade to enable it.

Getting a ruck that compromises our rebuild when that ruck isn't going to be there in four years is probably a mistake.

 

[Marlin01]

Sharp, I'd imagine, but if you think it's someone else, go for your life.

I have no idea. I’m just looking for some names to check out.

 

[eaglevision]

I'll possibly take him this year, just not with 1 or 2. Otherwise, I'll just grab him next year, or the year after.

You know 2 come before 7, right?

Just how many insiders do you think we should be taking? I would have thought you take Sharp and then take the best player available who is not Greeves. Or maybe split, if the player we want will still be available.

6 comes before 7.

Sharp’s been my #1 pick for 18 months. Lindsay and Cumming are the next best players available so on your logic taking either at pick 2 would be fine.

If we can slide and still grab both with the resultant pick and Port’s R1, great.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

Didn't Collard go around the 20 mark? You think Evans will get an early bid?

Collards had a couple of late games for Subi and kicked a few and his stocks peaked.

Buy high, sell low.

- St Kilda.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

I have no idea. I’m just looking for some names to check out.

There's only 2: Sharp and Greeves. I think both go top 5.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Didn't Collard go around the 20 mark? You think Evans will get an early bid?

I look at the players named as first round picks and I think in an open pool and uninjured Evans gets a late first round bid. Given his injury and late midfield transition we've probably got lucky.

He's quick, agile gets his hand free and away from his body, has a good leap on him and he kicks goals. Guys that can do it at stoppage, around the ground, get 30 and kick multiple goals always attract interest.

 

[Ruben Grubarb]

6 comes before 7.

Sharp’s been my #1 pick for 18 months. Lindsay and Cumming are the next best players available so on your logic taking either at pick 2 would be fine.

If we can slide and still grab both with the resultant pick and Port’s R1, great.

I've lost track with what the play is.....

This started with trading #1 for 4 and 19 or something. So ending up with 2, 4, and Marshall. And then if Saints pick Sharp, we go Lindsay at 2 and Cumming at 4. So basically 1 and 2 for Lindsay, Cumming, and Marshall. There's no way I'm not taking Sharp in this draft unless Richmond get the spoon.

Then we sort of went back to no trade and just 1 and 2. Then you pulled pick 7 out of your arse and slipped it in there.

So you want Sharp at 1, and then split 2 to try and get Lindsay and Cumming? I have no issue with that. I'd take that every day of the week. But the deal has to be there. Who knows what the club wants, but they're not going to hit and hope. They'll split if they know they can still get their man.

 

[eaglevision]

I've lost track with what the play is.....

This started with trading #1 for 4 and 19 or something. So ending up with 2, 4, and Marshall. And then if Saints pick Sharp, we go Lindsay at 2 and Cumming at 4. So basically 1 and 2 for Lindsay, Cumming, and Marshall. There's no way I'm not taking Sharp in this draft unless Richmond get the spoon.

Then we sort of went back to no trade and just 1 and 2. Then you pulled pick 7 out of your arse and slipped it in there.

So you want Sharp at 1, and then split 2 to try and get Lindsay and Cumming? I have no issue with that. I'd take that every day of the week. But the deal has to be there. Who knows what the club wants, but they're not going to hit and hope. They'll split if they know they can still get their man.

There was an early comment on a proposed trade by another poster. That’s come and gone.

You then asked me “Just how many insiders do you think we should be taking? I would have thought you take Sharp and then take the best player available who is not Greeves.”

In response to that, I think we’re likely to end up with picks 1, 2 then Port’s 1R from GCS, likely to be pick 7 or 8.

Turning those picks into Sharp, Lindsay and Cumming would be the best result I can see.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Outside players rarely get taken top 5 for good reason.

And we're back full circle. Brilliant.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Midweek tackle is reporting that Judd McVee has had a deal in front of him since last year, and was expected to sign but hasn’t yet. Apparently wants to play
Orr aggressive up the ground.


Isn’t currently fielding offers, but not signing on with dees in the near term.

We need to use all avenues and be prepared to walk him to the PSD

By all means offer the Dees the Hawks R2 but with a heavy hammer

 

[Elite Pete]

The PSD doesn’t get used by the player and manager unless they feel their client has been screwed over or the asking price is too much. They ain’t going to burn bridges in the afl world for an extra $200k ect.

 

[mattyc75]

Is there a speedy, beautiful kicker in the draft this year?

Harley barker has been mentioned a fair bit recently. Sounds like he'd be perfect for us maybe with the hawks first unless he keep climbing the draft boards

 

[Elite Pete]

Buss frustrated but Dogs will not trade him this year no matter what, so he will see out his contract. Clubs will ask the question (no team linked) but with a thin draft they won’t take late picks for him. Some teams are considering not even taking any picks and just upgrade rookies apparently.

 

[daddy_4_eyes]

My plan is to take this player in the next few drafts. If we acquire a pick around 7 this year, consider taking him. If he's available at Hawks R1, strongly consider taking him.

Let me spell this out slowly:

Outside players rarely get taken top 5 for good reason.
When you're top 5, prioritise balanced mids and bulls.
As you start moving up the ladder, you start moving back in the draft order. This is the opportune time to take Josh Lindsay type players. You're starting to get good. You're starting to win contests around the ground. This type of player can make your team pop.

When you're at the top of the draft, you have access to the best balanced mids, bulls, and outside players. When you start moving up the ladder, you lose access to the top balanced mids and bulls, but still have access to the top outsiders. Do the maths.

I don't think you're in a position to call anyone else ignorant, champ.

You keep saying "Outside players rarely get taken top 5" (or whatever variant of the top 5 suits you in the moment), but numerous posters have listed outside players taken early to point out how incorrect that is.

Maybe take a deep breathe and ease up on your absolutist views.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Mcvee has held off contract talks indefinitely. What's his trade cost?

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