Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 3.

[EskimoPAFC]

I agree completely.

However, if the Australian did make in forced vaccinations, making people get it against their will, well then the government comparisons get alot closer.

Sorry but just can't agree with this.

This is the list of crimes that were put forward for the nazi doctors in the Nurenburg trials:

1. War crimes: performing medical experiments, without the subjects' consent, on prisoners of war and civilians of occupied countries, in the course of which experiments the defendants committed murders, brutalities, cruelties, tortures, atrocities, and other inhuman acts. Also planning and performing the mass murder of prisoners of war and civilians of occupied countries, stigmatized as aged, insane, incurably ill, deformed, and so on, by gas, lethal injections, and diverse other means in nursing homes, hospitals, and asylums during the Euthanasia Program and participating in the mass murder of concentration camp inmates.

Its basically torture, murder and experimentation by some of the worst human beings the world has ever seen.

Even if it was to happen, forcing people to get a vaccine is just not even close to comparable.

 

[chiwigi]

I like how they think gyms and local sport, which are extremely important to health both mentally and physically are too risky to open in stage 4 but schools with hundreds of unhygienic, little germ spreaders are perfectly fine… and I say this as a teacher. The inconsistencies in restrictions since this pandemic has began have been ridiculous.

We are opening to get people back to work, a part of that will always be schools opening to house the kids.

What should have happened was teachers be given similar priority to health workers.

 

[chiwigi]

I agree completely.

However, if the Australian did make in forced vaccinations, making people get it against their will, well then the government comparisons get alot closer.

To the Shoah? No, just no!
The vaccines are there to save lives, not some conspiracy to experiment or kill people.
To compare the two is ****ed up.

A better and far closer comparison would be helmets and seatbelts, or even unleaded petrol, or banning trans fats.
Hell you could even have gone to banning smoking indoors or drink/drug driving.

 

[dav3]

Trump was extremely pro-vaccine

He was Pro Injecting Bleach, and Pro some Malaria medication from some company that probably gives him money

 

[backtozero]

I agree completely.

However, if the Australian did make in forced vaccinations, making people get it against their will, well then the government comparisons get alot closer.

Forced is a very loose term. Theyre not dragging people out of their homes to inject them. You need to be specific when using words like that.

 

[PortWTF]

Even if the mortality rate was 10%, I still couldn't see forced vaccinations being a thing in this country.

 

[Power Plus]

AFL set for jab ticket next year
By SAM LANDSBERGER

Vaccine ‘passports’ likely for AFL next year FOOTY fans wanting to attend AFL games in 2022 appear increasingly likely to require proof they are fully vaccinated against coronavirus.

But there is almost no chance vaccine passports will be introduced in time for this year’s finals series, because it would unfairly lock out supporters who are still ineligible to receive the injections.

The nation’s bungled vaccine rollout program has been marred by a lack of supply, but it is expected all Australians would have had the chance to get vaccinated long before the start of next season. That would empower the federal government to ratify vaccine passports for major events such as AFL games by round 1 next year.

On Sunday, Prime Minister Scott Morrison appeared to subtly endorse the concept without referring to it as a vaccine passport.

“It’s pretty straightforward,” Morrison said in a virtual address to the Queensland Liberal National Party State Council. “If you’re vaccinated, you present a lesser risk to public health than those who are not vaccinated, and you’re at greater risk of serious disease and indeed fatality from Covid.

“For those who’ve taken the decision to get vaccinated, then there should be the ability for them to be less imposed upon in terms of the restrictions, because they’ve taken the decision to improve the public health position of the country.”

Several AFL clubs expect vaccine passports to be required for fans attending games next season.

It would help safeguard clubs against playing games at empty stadiums which smash their budgets – in a normal year Melbourne would have banked $750,000 from hosting Western Bulldogs on Saturday night.

But vaccinations remain a sensitive topic for parts of the community and rubber-stamping a passport program for fans wanting to attend footy matches would stir emotions and ignite widespread debate.

Supporters who are not vaccinated could still attend games if they have recently tested negative to coronavirus under one idea that has been floated.

It was globally feared vaccine passports would open up a human rights and legal minefield and create a two-tiered society. But they are being adopted more and more overseas.

The United Kingdom announced on the weekend soccer fans must prove they are fully immunised before clicking through the turnstiles at the country’s 92 professional clubs.

The English Premier League season begins in September and clubs will use preseason friendly games to help trial certification.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

And I'm just pointing out that regardless of his messaging on the Covid vaccines he's historically been an anti-vaxxer, and an influential one.

Ok sure, I was only referring to the covid vaccine. Probably should have been clearer in my post.

 

[davesnothere]

Even if the mortality rate was 10%, I still couldn't see forced vaccinations being a thing in this country.

Exclusions from events, travelling, schools etc. absolutely. Forced no won't happen.

Schools once children start becoming infected in increasing numbers will insist on children being vaccinated. Public liability for restaurants events does become an issue as well at some point. People will start suing at some point if every possible precaution isn't in place at a venue to prevent the spread. That along with occupational health and safety regulations.

There is no choice but to exclude antivaxxers.

Nobody will force them to do anything though.

 

[PAFC66]

Protesters believe government that can’t even organise a vax rollout is ‘controlling them’ — The Shovel

“They’re tracking you right now,” one protester said of the Government that last year spent $20 million on a COVID app that has failed to track a single case.

www.theshovel.com.au

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Controversial MP Craig Kelly’s Twitter account has been placed in “read only” mode for seven days after he allegedly repeatedly breached policy to prevent the sharing of “misleading” Covid-19 information.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

145 NEW cases in NSW with 51 in the community.

 

[Pappagallo]

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Protesters believe government that can’t even organise a vax rollout is ‘controlling them’ — The Shovel

“They’re tracking you right now,” one protester said of the Government that last year spent $20 million on a COVID app that has failed to track a single case.

www.theshovel.com.au

Lol at the Eureka a.k.a. Australia’s Confederate Flag in the background. Anyone on the fence should’ve turned around the moment they saw it. It’s practically our nation’s flag of being on the wrong side of an issue.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

The issue is whether level 4 (probable) or level 3 (possible).

 

[manureid]

The media are still conveniently forgetting the Sydney outbreak is also caused by Gladys quarantine fu** up allowing unvaccinated unprotected and maskless airport drivers.

NSW have yet to fix their quarantine holes.

They also caused SA's outbreak

Free pass, no worries.

Brad Hazzard said about that driver that that kind of transmission was the ''unknown of the unknowns'' at the time. This bloke didnt know this driver, not vaccinated or masked driving possible positive cases around, could possibly catch and spread the disease. He then got shirty begging for help because you know, they helped fight bushfires. Absolute pillock.

 

[Holden Hillbilly]

Another protest in Sydney planned for Saturday and police are promising a huge response.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Lol at the Eureka a.k.a. Australia’s Confederate Flag in the background. Anyone on the fence should’ve turned around the moment they saw it. It’s practically our nation’s flag of being on the wrong side of an issue.

wait what

 

[PowerBaz]

AFL set for jab ticket next year
By SAM LANDSBERGER

Vaccine ‘passports’ likely for AFL next year FOOTY fans wanting to attend AFL games in 2022 appear increasingly likely to require proof they are fully vaccinated against coronavirus.

But there is almost no chance vaccine passports will be introduced in time for this year’s finals series, because it would unfairly lock out supporters who are still ineligible to receive the injections.

The nation’s bungled vaccine rollout program has been marred by a lack of supply, but it is expected all Australians would have had the chance to get vaccinated long before the start of next season. That would empower the federal government to ratify vaccine passports for major events such as AFL games by round 1 next year.

On Sunday, Prime Minister Scott Morrison appeared to subtly endorse the concept without referring to it as a vaccine passport.

“It’s pretty straightforward,” Morrison said in a virtual address to the Queensland Liberal National Party State Council. “If you’re vaccinated, you present a lesser risk to public health than those who are not vaccinated, and you’re at greater risk of serious disease and indeed fatality from Covid.

“For those who’ve taken the decision to get vaccinated, then there should be the ability for them to be less imposed upon in terms of the restrictions, because they’ve taken the decision to improve the public health position of the country.”

Several AFL clubs expect vaccine passports to be required for fans attending games next season.

It would help safeguard clubs against playing games at empty stadiums which smash their budgets – in a normal year Melbourne would have banked $750,000 from hosting Western Bulldogs on Saturday night.

But vaccinations remain a sensitive topic for parts of the community and rubber-stamping a passport program for fans wanting to attend footy matches would stir emotions and ignite widespread debate.

Supporters who are not vaccinated could still attend games if they have recently tested negative to coronavirus under one idea that has been floated.

It was globally feared vaccine passports would open up a human rights and legal minefield and create a two-tiered society. But they are being adopted more and more overseas.

The United Kingdom announced on the weekend soccer fans must prove they are fully immunised before clicking through the turnstiles at the country’s 92 professional clubs.

The English Premier League season begins in September and clubs will use preseason friendly games to help trial certification.

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Thought that was West Coast Book cover for a min.

 

[dav3]

Another protest in Sydney planned for Saturday and police are promising a huge response.

Should walk a group of Covid positive people through the protest

 

[OneGreatClub]

Trump tells his anti-vax supporters they should still get the Covid vaccine on Fox | The Independent

Or just search anything on "Operation Warp Speed"
[/QUOTElol
Every other Ex President came out months ago urging people to get the vaccine. Trump declined as he didn’t want to alienate his anti vax conspiracy followers..
He is responsible for hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Yes he was pushing Operation Warp speed but governments ALL over the world were pushing lots of urgent work into vaccines. Trump cares about Trump and Trump alone.

 

[backtozero]

Lol at the Eureka a.k.a. Australia’s Confederate Flag in the background. Anyone on the fence should’ve turned around the moment they saw it. It’s practically our nation’s flag of being on the wrong side of an issue.

Wtf is this

 

[pastmyprimus]

76 in the community for all or part of their infectious period. It's been over 60 for the last 6 days. But for Gladys it's still all about the vaccination program which isn't an immediate fix. No announcements today about tightening restrictions. Even Morrison is saying to lockdown harder. He's right but he wants to divert attention from his botched roll-out program

 

[Pappagallo]

wait what

Wtf is this

It’s been co-opted by f@&kwits.

 

[OneGreatClub]

The media are still conveniently forgetting the Sydney outbreak is also caused by Gladys quarantine fu** up allowing unvaccinated unprotected and maskless airport drivers.

NSW have yet to fix their quarantine holes.

They also caused SA's outbreak

Free pass, no worries.

And today she again talks about a balanced approach in Sydney to allow their freedoms.. stubborn as *