Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

[PAFC66]

This is even more tone deaf than your last post about NZ.

Sweden have no restrictions and had one of the most relaxed approaches when it comes to lockdowns. Nothing you just posted acknowledges that at all.

In fact, I'm almost certain that if I go back in your posting history I'd find something about how they f’ed everything up with their strategy.

No restrictions? Not true at all. They've had restrictions all the way through this to varying degree

 

[PAFC66]

They had one of the most relaxed policies INITIALLY and cases skyrocketed compared to their neighbours, they then brought in tougher restrictions. Their hospitals weren’t coping and they had to ask adjoining countries who were handling covid19 better for assistance in that area too.

Yep they failed. Even their government apologised for their initial relaxed attitude. More deaths than all Scandinavian countries. Economy didn't fair any better either.

 

[TeeKray]

Victoria - The Education State.

I think they should've locked down harder and faster.

 

[PAFC66]

I think they should've locked down harder and faster.

Thankgod we did. A lot less hospitised and dying then NSW from the Bondi outbreak.

 

[Papa G]

I think they should've locked down harder and faster.

Victoria - On the Move

 

[TeeKray]

Thankgod we did. A lot less hospitised and dying then NSW from the Bondi outbreak.

Gladys should've locked down harder and faster and the virus would've been eliminated! Gladys exported the virus to the rest of Australia and in fact the world because she didn't lock down quick enough!

Next minute Danistan locks down 4.6 milliseconds after discovering a case, still end up with MORE cases than NSW at every equivalent stage of the curve and after months in lockdown have thousands of cases a day and a dozen deaths a day.

 

[PAFC66]

Victoria - On the Move

SA the festival state

 

[PAFC66]

Gladys should've locked down harder and faster and the virus would've been eliminated! Gladys exported the virus to the rest of Australia and in fact the world because she didn't lock down quick enough!

Next minute Danistan locks down 4.6 milliseconds after discovering a case, still end up with MORE cases than NSW at every equivalent stage of the curve and after months in lockdown have thousands of cases a day and a dozen deaths a day.

Less deaths and less hospitised. That's all that matters.

Nope she just should of mandated PPE for people working with covid travelers. Only had 18 months

 

[PAFC66]

I think they should've locked down harder and faster.

Lockdowns work are proposing they don't? So should Victoria should've let it rip with half the population unvaccinated as a alternative?

 

[Papa G]

SA the festival state

Festivals are Fun. Its people coming togather in celebration. Not hiding in their houses.

 

[PAFC66]

Festivals are Fun. Its people coming togather in celebration. Not hiding in their houses.

Except when they're cancelled for 18 months despite having zero covid. Hiding is exactly what SA are doing. Start opening your borders like QLD

 

[TeeKray]

Lockdowns work are proposing they don't? So should Victoria have let it rip with half the population unvaccinated as a alternative?

You live in the most locked down Republic in the world where your Chairman announced in July a 'short, sharp lockdown to avoid a longer lockdown' over single digit cases - it's now October and you're still in lockdown and recording thousands of cases a day.

You tell me if they work.

 

[PAFC66]

You live in the most locked down Republic in the world where your Chairman announced in July a 'short, sharp lockdown to avoid a longer lockdown' over single digit cases - it's now October and you're still in lockdown and recording thousands of cases a day.

You tell me if they work.

Yep they work , without a lockdown we'd have 10s of thousands of cases a day months ago , less vaccinated therefore more in hospitals and more deaths therefore a healthcare system that is unsustainable for everyone with or without covid. NSW also announced a short sharp lockdown in July and it ended up being the longest continous lockdown of any city in Australia ever.

You're not a critical thinker are you.

 

[davesnothere]

In NSW that 372 is a spike in infection but the death rate is down. Hospitalisations are also steady which is good.

Hospitalisations/Deaths lagging indicators though. So unless all 3 KPIs are going down we are just going to watch infections rise which is expected and a few weeks down the track Sydney is no different to London, Singapore etc. I don't think it is even a guess.

 

[Papa G]

Except when they cancelled for 18 months despite having zero covid

You only don't like this because it hasn't allowed you to bask in SA having COVID self flagellation. Is anybody in any doubt that you'd be pulling your pud at the rate of a hummingbird if SA got Covid cases?

 

[PAFC66]

You only don't like this because it hasn't allowed you to bask in SA having COVID self flagellation. Is anybody in any doubt that you'd be pulling your pud at the rate of a hummingbird if SA got Covid cases?

Pulling my pud? Hardly. I'll be most likely working there shortly. You will have covid and you will have many hospitised and dying.

 

[Papa G]

Pulling my pud? Hardly. I'll be most likely working there shortly. You will have covid and you will have many hospitised and dying.

Cool.

 

[TeeKray]

Yep they work , without a lockdown we'd have 10s if thousands of cases a day months ago , less vaccinated therefore more in hospitals and more deaths therefore a healthcare system that is unsustainable for everyone with or without covid.

You're not a critical thinker are you.

This is all speculation presented as fact.

 

[PAFC66]

This is all speculation presented as fact.

You're an absolute omelette if you think cases and deaths wouldn't increase without a lockdown with substantial community transmission in a largely unvaccinated city. Idiot lol

 

[TeeKray]

You're an absolute omelette if you think cases and deaths wouldn't increase without a lockdown with substantial community transmission in a largely unvaccinated city. Idiot lol

It's not about whether they would increase, it's by how much they would increase by and whether the reduction justifies a lockdown.

No evidence to suggest social distancing, masks (indoors) and gathering/capacity limits wouldn't achieve similar numbers to lockdowns (where most of you are still going to work and spreading the virus anyway).

Also, lockdowns encourage vaccine hesitancy and people being pussys over the AZ vaccine. You would've been vaccinated much sooner without lockdown.

 

[PAFC66]

It's not about whether they would increase, it's by how much they would increase by and whether the reduction justifies a lockdown.

No evidence to suggest social distancing, masks (indoors) and gathering/capacity limits wouldn't achieve similar numbers to lockdowns (where most of you are still going to work and spreading the virus anyway).

Also, lockdowns encourage vaccine hesitancy and people being pussys over the AZ vaccine. You would've been vaccinated much sooner without lockdown.

Yes there's evidence all over the world to suggest that .

Can you repeat that again?
"Lockdowns encourage vaccine hesitancy?" Lol wtf? Is that why vaccine uptake especially AZ in this state has been faster than anywhere else during this lockdown? Is that why WA are mandating 70% of their workforce to get vaccinated because their rollout is lagging purely because there's no restrictions or lockdowns?

 

[TeeKray]

Yes there's evidence all over the world to suggest that .

Can you repeat that again?
Lockdowns encourage vaccine hesitancy? Lol wtf? Is that why uptake especially AZ in this state has been faster than anywhere else during this lockdown? Is that why WA are mandating 70% of their workforce to get vaccinated because their rollout is lagging purely because there's no restrictions or lockdowns.

The zero covid fantasy encourages vaccine hesitancy even more than lockdowns.

 

[PAFC66]

The zero covid fantasy encourages vaccine hesitancy even more than lockdowns.

The only reason the rollout was slow initially has nothing to do with lockdowns and everything to do with supply, mixed messaging and distribution and the states cannot be blamed for that.

Lockdowns don't slow vaccine uptake. Dumbest thing you've said and that's saying something. They increase uptake dramatically as people know that they only way to come out of lockdowns is to get vaccinated?

 

[PAFC66]

The zero covid fantasy encourages vaccine hesitancy even more than lockdowns.

This zero covid bullshit you keep going on about maybe relevant to you in WA but not the rest of the country. Every state has acknowledged that zero covid or close to zero was the best strategy whilst we wernt at adequate vaccination rates like 70-80%. Obviously that changes as we reach those targets.

 

[malcheski]

This zero covid bullshit you keep going on about maybe relevant to you in WA but not the rest of the country. Every state has acknowledged that zero covid or close to zero was the best strategy whilst we wernt at adequate vaccination rates like 70-80%. Obviously that changes as we reach those targets.

Contrary to popular belief, Vic & NSW isn't the rest of the country. Qld, SA, Tas, & the NT have gone down the zero COVID road like WA, hence the slow uptake in vaccines (especially in Qld). Lockdowns absolutely slow down vaccine uptakes due to people being hesitant to leave the house and also questioning why they are in lockdown and need a vaccine at the same time. It isnt the sole reason why the roll out was so slow but it definitely contributed.