Corona virus, Port and the AFL. Part 4.

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12 deaths per day in a population of 21.5 million. Not too dissimilar to the numbers in locked down Danistan which is one quarter the size.
There's also a record number of people in hospitals, ICUs and on ventilators in locked down Danistan.
 
This doesn't seem even remotely close to correct if we are talking about now.

Florida actually has a 7 day moving average of 12 deaths per day, making it not even in the top 20 worst hit US states.

Texas does seem to be #1 or close to it, with around 200, but they are certainly not making up the "bulk". 200 deaths is significantly less than 20% of the total numbers from America.
"Bulk" is the wrong word but clearly theyre seeing the most hospitiased and dying out of all states. There's a clear correlation between down souths lower vaccination rates and higher hospitsations and deaths. You can't argue that.
 
There's also a record number of people in hospitals, ICUs and on ventilators in locked down Danistan.
It's about 40% less than NSW had hospitiased at their peak, deaths are a lot lower. For Victoria it's a record yes. Just imagine if we were vaccinated months ago like we should of been , you know like at the front of the queue as we were promised. Crack a beer and celebrate if you want.
 
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I have a question: if the limiting factor for Victoria’s vaccine rollout was the response of the Federal Government, why were vaccine mandates necessary in order to force the 80% target?
 
I have a question: if the limiting factor for Victoria’s vaccine rollout was the response of the Federal Government, why were vaccine mandates necessary in order to force the 80% target?
The mandate affected authorised workers during lockdown.

It wasn't to "force" the 80% target. We would of got there regardless. The mandates were appropriate at the time due to the increased levels of cases within authorised workers during lockdown just as their was in NSW when they introduced mandates. Authorised workers such as construction had low levels of vaccination coverage and high cases , alot of this was also down to poor compliance with covid safe protocols. As vaccination coverage took effect from mandates in NSW hotspots, where authorised workers were drivers of transmission, cases eventually fell.

The limiting factor was the amount of Pfizer the state could administer , the more Pfizer we can push out the quicker the time between 1st and 2nd jabs which obviously sees us hit our targets quicker and end lockdown. Victoria had no issue dishing out AZ they administered more AZ than any other state.
 
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The mandate affected authorised workers during lockdown.

It wasn't to "force" the 80% target. We would of got there regardless. The mandates were appropriate at the time due to the increased levels of cases within authorised workers during lockdown just as their was in NSW when they introduced mandates. Authorised workers such as construction had low levels of vaccination coverage and high cases , alot of this was also down to poor compliance with covid safe protocols. As vaccination coverage took effect from mandates in NSW hotspots, where authorised workers were drivers of transmission, cases eventually fell.

The limiting factor was the amount of Pfizer the state could administer , the more Pfizer we can push out the quicker the time between 1st and 2nd jabs which obviously sees us hit our targets quicker and end lockdown. Victoria had no issue dishing out AZ they administered more AZ than any other state.
What a joke! While Dan was still talking elimination and advocating a ring of steel around Sydney Gladys stepped into the leadership abyss and said we have to live with covid and vaccinate our way out of it. Fortune favours the brave. Gladys set course in a new direction while Dan dithered. Having seized that moment it was appropriate that NSW was supported with extra Pfizer supplies. The dithering hunchback finally came to his senses 6 weeks later and adopted the Berejiklian strategy. He was late to the party and that is why the case numbers are so high in Victoria and why it’s vaccine roll out sadly lags behind the NSW rollout
 
What a joke! While Dan was still talking elimination and advocating a ring of steel around Sydney Gladys stepped into the leadership abyss and said we have to live with covid and vaccinate our way out of it. Fortune favours the brave. Gladys set course in a new direction while Dan dithered. Having seized that moment it was appropriate that NSW was supported with extra Pfizer supplies. The dithering hunchback finally came to his senses 6 weeks later and adopted the Berejiklian strategy. He was late to the party and that is why the case numbers are so high in Victoria and why it’s vaccine roll out sadly lags behind the NSW rollout

Pretty much this. Cases needed to happen in order to drive up vaccination numbers. People aren't going to go out in huge numbers to get vaccinated whilst they're in a constant state of lockdowns to get numbers back to zero.
You either have an elimination strategy or you vaccinate and live with hospitalisations, not both.
 
The mandate affected authorised workers during lockdown.

It wasn't to "force" the 80% target. We would of got there regardless. The mandates were appropriate at the time due to the increased levels of cases within authorised workers during lockdown just as their was in NSW when they introduced mandates. Authorised workers such as construction had low levels of vaccination coverage and high cases , alot of this was also down to poor compliance with covid safe protocols. As vaccination coverage took effect from mandates in NSW hotspots, where authorised workers were drivers of transmission, cases eventually fell.

The limiting factor was the amount of Pfizer the state could administer , the more Pfizer we can push out the quicker the time between 1st and 2nd jabs which obviously sees us hit our targets quicker and end lockdown. Victoria had no issue dishing out AZ they administered more AZ than any other state.

Seeing as though you had a go at another poster's level of education for a spelling/grammatical error earlier ...

It's "would have" not "would of".

It's "just as there was in NSW" not "just as their was in NSW".

And it's "a lot" not "alot".

:)
 
And what else has the dithering hunchback been up to? It’s the shiny new quarantine facility…that has aged well

 
Seeing as though you had a go at another poster's level of education for a spelling/grammatical error earlier ...

It's "would have" not "would of".

It's "just as there was in NSW" not "just as their was in NSW".

And it's "a lot" not "alot".

:)

Its also "etc" not "ect"
 

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I'm not sure how you can praise NSW for its vaccination rate, when the federal liberal government disproportionately favoured the liberal nsw government with the allocation of vaccines.

(It's surprising there isn't a bigger difference in the vaccination rates. As of October 15, NSW 91.9% first jabs and 79.8% fully vaccinated. Victoria 88% first jabs and 65% fully vaccinated.)


Back in late June, as Sydney's current outbreak was just taking off, NSW was receiving 32 per cent of the national Pfizer vaccine allocation through primary care — mostly GPs.

That is roughly in line with NSW's proportion of the national population.

But by last month its allocation had jumped to 45 per cent.

A chart shows Pfizer allocation to the primary care network in NSW.

How much of the Pfizer vaccine allocated to the primary care network went to NSW.(ABC News)
Some of that was thanks to extra vaccines, such as those in the delivery from Poland, which mostly went to NSW.

But that is not the whole story and these figures illustrate the extent to which the NSW doses have come at the expense of other states.

Catch up on the main COVID-19 news from October 16 with a look back at our blog
Consider Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia, which have all seen their allocation fall well below their share of the national population.

It is in the federal government-run distribution of Pfizer vaccines through the GP network — and now other primary care providers such as pharmacies — where there have been huge shifts in supply in favour of NSW.
 
What a joke! While Dan was still talking elimination and advocating a ring of steel around Sydney Gladys stepped into the leadership abyss and said we have to live with covid and vaccinate our way out of it. Fortune favours the brave. Gladys set course in a new direction while Dan dithered. Having seized that moment it was appropriate that NSW was supported with extra Pfizer supplies. The dithering hunchback finally came to his senses 6 weeks later and adopted the Berejiklian strategy. He was late to the party and that is why the case numbers are so high in Victoria and why it’s vaccine roll out sadly lags behind the NSW rollout
How dare you expose Victoria's Dear Leader like that! But in all seriousness yes, it's failure after failure with Dan, and the Victorian public end up being the losers out of his incompetent mismanagement.
 
Seeing as though you had a go at another poster's level of education for a spelling/grammatical error earlier ...

It's "would have" not "would of".

It's "just as there was in NSW" not "just as their was in NSW".

And it's "a lot" not "alot".

:)
Hey I’m the one who picked up
Strapper’s misuse of a word, not PAFC66.
Strapper believes he is the brightest, most clever, most in the know poster on here so I was surprised at his poor grammar.
 
A bit more from the article which highlights how fair the federal government has been in the distribution of vaccines. I wonder if politics had anything to do with these decisions?


The real-world impact of the shifting of Pfizer vaccines to NSW, particularly given the much faster speed with which people can be double vaccinated, is significant.

Based on these numbers, for example, it appears Victoria may have missed out on up to 343,000 Pfizer jabs between June and September, Queensland 100,000 jabs and Western Australia 114,000 jabs.

But more troubling is the apparent extra weighting of future Pfizer shot allocations to NSW for the remainder of the year.

The Federal Department of Health "Horizon Allocation" document, updated in late July, forecasts the distribution of various vaccines until the end of December.

It shows Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia continuing to receive much less than their population's share of vaccines.

For example, Victoria would normally get about 82 per cent of NSW's allocation.

But it is forecast to get between just 66 per cent and 69 per cent.
 
Primus and NurseRatched66 would have been weeping in their shandies last night. NSW out of lockdown and open to the world with case numbers down, the health system holding up fine, and vaccine rates through the roof. Meanwhile in Danistan the longest lockdown in the free world grinds on, cases are through the roof and vaccination rates lag. Even the thought of that shiny new quarantine facility would have been little consolation!
 
I'm not sure how you can praise NSW for its vaccination rate, when the federal liberal government disproportionately favoured the liberal nsw government with the allocation of vaccines.

(It's surprising there isn't a bigger difference in the vaccination rates. As of October 15, NSW 91.9% first jabs and 79.8% fully vaccinated. Victoria 88% first jabs and 65% fully vaccinated.)


Back in late June, as Sydney's current outbreak was just taking off, NSW was receiving 32 per cent of the national Pfizer vaccine allocation through primary care — mostly GPs.

That is roughly in line with NSW's proportion of the national population.

But by last month its allocation had jumped to 45 per cent.

A chart shows Pfizer allocation to the primary care network in NSW.

How much of the Pfizer vaccine allocated to the primary care network went to NSW.(ABC News)
Some of that was thanks to extra vaccines, such as those in the delivery from Poland, which mostly went to NSW.

But that is not the whole story and these figures illustrate the extent to which the NSW doses have come at the expense of other states.

Catch up on the main COVID-19 news from October 16 with a look back at our blog
Consider Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia, which have all seen their allocation fall well below their share of the national population.

It is in the federal government-run distribution of Pfizer vaccines through the GP network — and now other primary care providers such as pharmacies — where there have been huge shifts in supply in favour of NSW.

Don't hit them with facts and common sense mate they don't like it.
Victoria was ahead of NSW prior to their outbreak untill NSW sat on their arse for 8 days letting covid rip and realised they're ****ed.
 
Primus and NurseRatched66 would have been weeping in their shandies last night. NSW out of lockdown and open to the world with case numbers down, the health system holding up fine, and vaccine rates through the roof. Meanwhile in Danistan the longest lockdown in the free world grinds on, cases are through the roof and vaccination rates lag. Even the thought of that shiny new quarantine facility would have been little consolation!
NSW isn't open to the world. Scomo actually put pairoftits back in his box. They're open to returning citizens only.
Vaccine rates are through the roof in Victoria as well, they're clearly not lagging , we are ahead of all projections from a fortnight ago and will hit 70% Wednesday, obviously we are slightly behind as the outbreak took off here a month later and less Pfizer?

Personally I'm sitting here out of lockdown and very happy that NSW have got it under control (so far) as I'm heading there in December.

There's always going to be a place for quarantine next year. People who can't safely quarantine at home / travelers from high risk areas and the unvaccinated.
 
NSW isn't open to the world. Scomo actually put pairoftits back in his box. They're open to returning citizens only.
Vaccine rates are through the roof in Victoria as well, they're clearly not lagging , we are ahead of all projections from a fortnight ago and will hit 70% Wednesday, obviously we are slightly behind as the outbreak took off here a month later and less Pfizer?

Personally I'm sitting here out of lockdown and very happy that NSW have got it under control (so far) as I'm heading there in December.

Who"s running the Asylum?
 
I can't be f’ed reading what Rumours of winter wrote because I've been at the Pub all afternoon but "the Feds gave all da vaccine to NSW" is such a sh*te argument. No matter where you live in Australia, particularly in the cities, you could have been fully vaxxed by now.

I think you should read it. If you stop people from getting pfizer and make them take the unpopular astra zeneca (can't be bothered checking the spelling), you increase the time between first and second vaccinations which would largely explain why the first jab percentage is similar but there is a significant difference in the second jab. No pubs open here atm. Think we open soon although our numbers are ****ed. (i got a negative result today so woot)
 
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