Cricket Discussion - Part 3

[RussellEbertHandball]

The technology provider has admitted they got it wrong and therefore match referee Jeff Crowe has ruled that England get the review used on Carey back, so they go from 1 to 2 reviews left.

England fuming, Snicko operator takes blame for DRS howler during Carey’s century

On a day that belonged to Alex Carey and Usman Khawaja, the Australian wicketkeeper was embroiled in controversy as an England coach slammed technology that cost his side vital runs.

www.smh.com.au

However, in a major blunder, the third party in charge of providing “Snicko” to broadcasters, BBG Sports, made an operator error, according to two sources with knowledge of the situation speaking on the condition of anonymity.

The operator put up the sound on the stump microphone at the bowler’s end, instead of Carey’s end, hence why the big spike appeared. While Carey may still have got an edge, the wrong graphic was shown and was the reason why it was out of sync.

BBG sports founder and head of technology Warren Brennan said the company took “full responsibility” for the error that led to Carey’s reprieve.

“Given that Alex Carey admitted he had hit the ball in question, the only conclusion that can be drawn from this, is that the ‘Snicko’ operator at the time must have selected the incorrect stump mic for audio processing,” Brennan told this masthead. “In light of this, BBG Sports takes full responsibility for the error.”

For his part, Carey said, “I thought there was a bit of a feather or some sort of noise when it passed the bat.
“It looked a bit funny on the replay, didn’t it, with the noise coming early? You have a bit of luck and maybe it went my way today.” England assistant coach David Saker was less than impressed and said the team would consider making a formal complaint.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Late yesterday one of the commentators said if Stokes takes a wicket he joins 3 other poms - Botham Broad and Rhodes, who have taken 50 wickets and made 1000 runs in Ashes tests. He didn't but he will before the series is finished.

So I looked up who has done it for both the poms and Aussies.

Overall figures

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
W Rhodes	1899-1926	41	1706	179	31.01	1	109	8/68	24.00	6	36	0	7.01
SCJ Broad	2009-2023	40	1019	65	18.87	0	153	8/15	28.96	8	9	0	-10.09

IT Botham

1977-1989

36

1673

149*

29.35

4

148

6/78

27.65

9

57

0

1.69

BA Stokes

2013-2025

27

1639

155

34.87

4

49

6/36

36.81

3

21

0

-1.94

I included Warne as he was the closest to get to 1000 runs, but didn't quiet get there.

Player	Span	Mat	Runs	HS	Bat Av	100	Wkts	BBI	Bowl Av	5	Ct	St	Ave Diff
WW Armstrong	1902-1921	42	2172	158	35.03	4	74	6/35	30.91	3	37	0	4.11
MA Noble	1898-1909	39	1905	133	30.72	1	115	7/17	24.86	9	26	0	5.85
SK Warne	1993-2007	36	946	90	22.00	0	195	8/71	23.25	11	30	0	-1.25

G Giffen

1881-1896

31

1238

161

23.35

1

103

7/117

27.09

7

24

0

-3.73

KR Miller

1946-1956

29

1511

145*

33.57

3

87

7/60

22.40

3

20

0

11.17

 

[afl2004]

CUMDOG

 

[philreich]

This worst Australian team since 2010 actually isn't too bad.

 

[tribey]

Hey Joe, how do you keep your average so low?…

 

[Doctor Feel]

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Hey Joe, how do you keep your average so low?…

C'mon, give us a go

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Imran Khan apparently isn't in great condition locked up in a Paki jail cell for 23 hours a day, according to his sons in an interview with Sky News UK a couple of days ago. A couple of weeks ago there were reports that he had died.

Reporter Yalda Hakim is an Aussie journo, was born in Afghanistan, but her family fled Soviet-Afghan war in the early 80's when she was a few months old, and came to Oz, she speaks a handful of languages, started at SBS News and then hosted Dateline and then moved to UK and has worked at BBC News and Sky News for over a decade.

The Pakistan military can't help itself. It hasn't let a prime minister serve a full term for decades. As some journo said earlier this year, most nations have a military, in Pakistan, it has a military looking for a nation.

 

[philreich]

Third Test - NZ flogging the living daylights out of the hapless Windies, currently 0 for 251, late on day 1.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Pretty good prediction by Kerry lol. "He'll be looking for an outside edge from Brook as he has a little waft."

Literally happens on that ball.

 

[Doctor Feel]

Here we go, Stokes is broken again.

 

[TazD]

Pretty good prediction by Kerry lol. "He'll be looking for an outside edge from Brook as he has a little waft."

Literally happens on that ball.

Kerry's pretty good when he's not trying to be the funniest person in the universe.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Third Test - NZ flogging the living daylights out of the hapless Windies, currently 0 for 251, late on day 1.

Normal operations have resumed.

Windies were smashed in the 1st test
Windies magnificent effort in the 2nd test to make 6 or 7 down for 450 odd in 4th innings chasing 530 odd to win.

 

[philreich]

Normal operations have resumed.

Windies were smashed in the 1st test
Windies magnificent effort in the 2nd test to make 6 or 7 down for 450 odd in 4th innings chasing 530 odd to win.

The West Indies exist to make Pommy fans feel a little bit better .

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

This Kiwi 3rd umpire DRS on Smith decision is hopeless. Wasting so much time.

 

[tribey]

This Kiwi 3rd umpire DRS on Smith decision is hopeless. Wasting so much time.

He’s incompetent.

Said it didn’t hit the glove based on snicko when it clearly visibly struck the glove and moved it?

I’m baffled.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

He’s incompetent.

Said it didn’t hit the glove based on snicko when it clearly visibly struck the glove and moved it?

I’m baffled.

To my eyes it touched the glove and it bounced before Khawaja got his hands on the ball.

Obviously the rule is the 3rd umpire can't use their common-sense and overrule the inadequacies / errors of DRS technology. It's just as farken bad as the ARC in AFL. Get the technology right or don't use it at all.

He was halfway thru making a ruling on the catch and then says go back to the front on shot to see if it the hit the glove or helmet. Should have finished of saying whether it was a catch or not first.

 

[tribey]

To my eyes it touched the glove and it bounced before Khawaja got his hands on the ball.

Obviously the rule is the 3rd umpire can't use there common-sense and overrule the inadequacies / errors of DRS technology. It's just as farken bad as the ARC in AFL. Get the technology right or don't use it at all.

He was halfway thru making a ruling on the catch and then says go back to the front on shot to see if it the hit the glove or helmet. Should have finished of saying whether it was a catch or not first.

100%

We are all Travis Head after that latest review, “what’s going on?!”

 

[philreich]

The highest opening partnership in Test cricket is 415 by a South African pair in 2008. It's under threat right now, with the Kiwis at 0 for 322.

Edit: a wicket fell next ball.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

The highest opening partnership in Test cricket is 415 by a South African pair in 2008. It's under threat right now, with the Kiwis at 0 for 322.

Edit: a wicket fell next ball.

Jinxed it.

Haha I've done it enough times.

 

[philreich]

Jinxed it.

Haha I've done it enough times.

I still think the Kiwi number 9 can play golf tomorrow morning - I doubt he'll be needed with the bat.

 

[JimmyBC]

I sometimes wonder if we'd be better off not using Tech/DRS then I remember Blewett getting the worst LBW I've ever seen when he was on 89 at the GABBA. It does however breed spineless on-field umpiring.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Brilliant by Carey to catch that and a great decision from during the first test to stand up to Boland once the ball gets soft around 40-50 over mark and doesn't come thru as quickly as the early overs.

What a purple patch he is having.

No more talk about being replaced.

 

[philreich]

Brilliant by Carey to catch that and a great decision from during the first test to stand up to Boland once the ball gets soft around 40-50 over mark and doesn't come thru as quickly as the early overs.

What a purple patch he is having.

No more talk about being replaced.

I reckon I can say without fear of contradiction that Alex Carey is now one of the first picked for every match. He's just turned 34, so I think he's got at least another 4 years behind the stumps for the Aussies.

 

[tribey]

I sometimes wonder if we'd be better off not using Tech/DRS then I remember Blewett getting the worst LBW I've ever seen when he was on 89 at the GABBA. It does however breed spineless on-field umpiring.

Warne getting caught at deep square on 99 and it turned out it was a massive front foot no ball.

Ponting LBW for 96 on debut despite it looking like missing high and down leg.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I sometimes wonder if we'd be better off not using Tech/DRS then I remember Blewett getting the worst LBW I've ever seen when he was on 89 at the GABBA. It does however breed spineless on-field umpiring.

Technology was brought into sports for the howlers or things like run out where the human eye isn't good enough to make super tight calls.

Now they try and use it for the marginal decisions.

Hawkeye is perfect for tennis because judging a tennis ball just in, or on the line or just out is a simple 2 dimensional analysis.

I think its from Classical Greek times, but the expression the Perfect is the Enemy of Good, is so true in these technologically advanced times.