Damaged Reps in the Media/Journalistic Domain.

[blackcat]

Cylon, calling Cylon!

bottom, top, power bottom?

 

[blackcat]

That article on the Essendon WAGs was pathetic.
Tim Lane has written some good articles including another one today.

but you gotta hand it to the red tops and Murdoch and their acronyms and Samantha Fox

does anyone know Samantha Fox dated the Australian weightloss conman about 2 and a half decades before AOD and peptides... it puts into stark relief all the silicon doping on Brownlow Medal Night...

listen how he speaks in rhetorical phrase like KRudd, hypotheticals, rhetorical questions...
weightloss

yeah, James Brayshaw was once a proper journalist on ACA before he became a shoe seller in rundle mall

 

[sosos]

Stephen J Peake, i'm not sure how anyone could employ him as a lawyer. The bloke is actually as dumb as dogshit and some of his opinions are mind boggling. No-one dumber on SEN and that's saying something. Still crapping on last night about the verdict. Had to switch the idiot off.

I had to turn it off as well!

Backed up by Geoffrey Poulter, he went on to say that Tanner, the ex ALP politician should go to Canberra and use his links to just make it all go away.

Suggested it was these "Europeans" coming here telling us what to do.

I have heard some embarrassing statements made during this but that topped it for me.

Back your team as much as you can , but descending to this can't be where sane Essendon supporters want to go.

 

[craigvn123]

Disagree on Sam Newman, he is a caricature that has made John Newman a lot of money over the years.

Agree with this. Sam is not a journalist, just a dial a quote.

 

[Baltimore Jack]

Agree with this. Sam is not a journalist, just a dial a quote.

He represents (and does it well) the bogans in society
He is their mouth piece

 

[lethalselbow]

Sad:

Rohan Connolly

Complicit:

Chip LeGrand
Mark Robinson
Grant Baker
Mick Warner
Tracey Holmes
Tim Watson

Great call on Connolly. Can't stand the way the guy actually thinks that he is unbiased in the whole affair. I think he has clearly been the worst due to this delusional self belief that he is walking the middle ground.

 

[LeakyValve]

Francis Leach was one of the very few journalists who'd question things, and was consistent throughout. He earns a gold star too. Here's a recent article of his.


How you guys have forgotten about him is beyond me. He's better than anyone in the OP's list.

Also, an honourable mention to Tim Lane who wouldn't buy the AFL and Essendon's bullshit.

Agree re Francis.

Had the guts to have a proper pop at Essendon and the AFL on Offsiders and The Huddle on a number of occasions.

 

[thegerman]

Think generally, Hun and SEN have been damaged.

Todays paper too profiling the WAGs.

SEN has been woeful. When the verdict came down, some hosts were saying well so what, what's these drugs going to do, not much really..

Lol. It was laughable heating these guys roll out the victim line, even though they hadn't read the facts of the case or the verdict.

 

[Crankyhawk]

Absolutely. He copped a lot of stick for it but his stuff on AOD was first class. It was The Drug and he uncovered from reputable sources that ASADA had been telling people it was permitted.

Didn't we know that had happened from the ACC report?

 

[LeakyValve]

Warwick Hadfield (Radio National), unsurprisingly, was part of the Essendon spin cycle also.

He said some unpleasant things about ASADA early in the affair and I fail to understand
while Fran Kelly even bothered to have him on board.

Haven't listened in months so I don't know what his current tune is.

 

[PetterdHoisted]

Great call on Connolly. Can't stand the way the guy actually thinks that he is unbiased in the whole affair. I think he has clearly been the worst due to this delusional self belief that he is walking the middle ground.

RoCo soiled his rep more than anyone for mine as well. I actually thought he was a serious journalist before all this.

That article where he was railing against 'clubs who have won far less than 16 premierships'...barely worthy of a BF post.

 

[Thrawn]

When you have Robbo criticising the questioning, you know you're going bad.

 

[Byron_Clanger]

When you have Robbo criticising the questioning, you know you're going bad.

Kinda happens when you sit next to the best Journo in the game four times a week for six months of the year

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Warwick Hadfield (Radio National), unsurprisingly, was part of the Essendon spin cycle also.

He said some unpleasant things about ASADA early in the affair and I fail to understand
while Fran Kelly even bothered to have him on board.

Haven't listened in months so I don't know what his current tune is.

Isn't this Hadfeild the same one linked to Bruce Francis?

 

[LeakyValve]

Isn't this Hadfeild the same one linked to Bruce Francis?

Cannot be 100% certain, but I think that may be the case.

It is a pity, because when not discussing ASADA/EFC he comes across as a likable and bright bloke.

Too close to Sheedy and that lot methinks.

 

[Boxhead_31]

Well I think it is very safe to say that we can firmly put Tracey Holmes into the losing all credibility pile after tonight

 

[The_Reaper]

Australian journalism was murdered today at the Ethics Centre and it happened at the taxpayers expense

 

[Boxhead_31]

Isn't this Hadfeild the same one linked to Bruce Francis?

Sure is. Did a lot of work on Bruce's fathers book from memory

 

[Back One Out]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-01/holmes-essendon-aftermath-a-case-built-on-rumour/6364242

Essendon aftermath: a case built on rumour

OPINION
By Tracey Holmes
April 1st, 2015

For two years headlines and editorials were full of shock and awe about doping in sport. Despite ASADA's press conference this morning, the question remains: what was it all about? Tracey Holmes writes.

Position vacant: fat lady who sings.

Apply: AFL House.

Start date: Immediate.

Remuneration: Name your price.

Yesterday's finding by the AFL anti-doping tribunal - that not a single one of the 34 players charged for taking a banned substance was guilty - was supposed to bring to an end the two-year saga stemming from the "blackest day in Australian sport".

It hasn't. It's blown open the biggest sports doping case this country has seen and revealed it to be a shell built on rumour, innuendo and bullying.

The Essendon players are justifiably relieved. The coach is so worn down he just wants to coach. The chairman wants to get the show back on the straight-and-narrow.

When the dust settles, each party has the right to be aggrieved and seek recompense.

For its part, the AFL is unapologetic. ASADA, though, is mad as hell. They look to have been bluffing and blundering for two years.

Anti-doping chief, and former cop, Ben McDevitt tried to tell the world this morning that this hasn't all been one big April Fool's joke, announcing the agency is considering appealing the verdict.

What of the ACC report that was at the heart of it all? The promises of a thriller complete with crime gangs, match-fixing and rampant drug use?

On February 7, 2013, ASADA was on stage with a number of CEOs from Australia's most powerful sports; all standing in line like laughing clowns at the fair. At this one though, no one wins a prize.

The "we know who you are" and "we will catch you" lines by two senior Labor government ministers on the day, Kate Lundy (who retired from parliament last week) and Jason Clare (who's now in opposition), are ringing a little hollow right now. Not much more than a "roll up, roll up" call to passers-by who long ago lost interest.

And what of the ACC report that was at the heart of it all? The promises of a thriller complete with crime gangs, match-fixing and rampant drug use? The only thing missing from the mix was a brothel. Headlines rang out, editorials were full of it, program after program echoed the shock and awe. What happened to that?

It's not just ASADA that woke up this morning with a cracking headache and a shocking hangover. What about all those journos that had the Essendon coach and 34 players hung, drawn and quartered for unspeakable crimes? Crimes of which we now know, and a few suspected all along, there was very little evidence.

The viciousness with which some sections of the media went after the Essendon team, and its coach, is unprecedented in Australian sports history. Players have been living their lives by Braille - trying to feel their way through a darkness they thought they'd never emerge from.

Captain Jobe Watson spoke for every man in the team when he said:

"Together the players, our families, and supporters, have experienced first hand the heartbreaking frustration of these past two years. As a group of professional athletes we found ourselves in a situation we could never have imagined; it's a position and experience none of us should have been a part of."

Mark McVeigh, a former player, now assistant coach at the Greater Western Sydney Giants, put it more bluntly:

"We were never going to get rolled by untruths."

No doubt though there are those who will refuse to see the Essendon players as innocent, Ben McDevitt among them. For that clique, Essendon will always be known as the cheats who got off.

When that realisation dawns on the players, some of yesterday's relief will turn to rage. Players, like treasurers, are entitled to sue for defamation. Unlike the Treasurer, though, it won't be about a single headline - it will be about two years of headlines in multiple papers on multiple pages.

And don't be fooled by the AFL's attempt to suggest it is now on the side of the players. It's a little hard to swallow after a two-year joint investigation with ASADA, where the only leaked information played into its own hands. CEO Gillon McLachlan tried his luck though, announcing the AFL was suddenly interested in full and frank transparency, calling for a public release of the tribunal's summary.

And to suggest, as he did, that the tribunal's verdict exonerates the players, not the club, reveals the chasm that still exists between head office and one of its most supported franchises. It is this rift that is going to continue to make life difficult for the coach, James Hird.

He is a man torn. Once a player, but not anymore. Yesterday he sat with his president, Paul Little, both wearing the club suit and tie. They addressed the media from the club's training facilities with a busy sponsors board behind them and an empty ground ahead of them. The players were on the other side of Melbourne. They were wearing casual jeans and shirts, and there was not an Essendon logo in sight when they briefed the media outside club confines. Yesterday Hird was a leader without his men. Despite having Little by his side, he appeared very much alone.

The players have each other; they are unified. But they clearly feel cut adrift from management whom they suspect may have let them down; may not have always acted in the players' best interests. Their suspicions may prove to be correct. Victoria's WorkCover Authority must now complete its OHS investigation into Essendon and the AFL.

Like a bickering couple, the warring parties have agreed to stay together - for the sake of the kids. They are all putting on a brave face.

Now it's back to ASADA. Despite this morning's press conference, the question remains: what were the past two years all about?

Tracey Holmes has focussed her career in journalism on sport and its wider implications.

Oh dear….

 

[Rod Stroker]

Damian Barrett

A common theme is that none of them are members of the footy boys' club.

Please.
Just because he's not a past player, doesn't mean he's not part of the boys club. He's in it up to his eye balls. Footy Show, MMM, Access All Areas, the list goes on. Everything he does in the footy media is with the boys club, hence, he's in it!
He got it right with his views on the Essendon saga, but to say he's not part of the boys club is laughable.

 

[Rod Stroker]

What about Fat Guts Hutchy? Where does he land? He's be on the tube every week for 3 years with an opinion on it.

 

[Rod Stroker]

Quite the ego, for someone that makes a living listening to deadshits' dribble at him after a big game.

Bloke is full of himself, and has no reason to be. He's an irrelevant pontificating muppet.

 

[blackshadow]

What about Fat Guts Hutchy? Where does he land? He's be on the tube every week for 3 years with an opinion on it.

Pretty average for most of it but is starting to see some light

http://www.sen.com.au/news/01-16/hutchy-on-herald-sun-and-delusional-hird#D3yfhjbMu8HxbXwd.97

 

[The_Reaper]

Pretty average for most of it but is starting to see some light

http://www.sen.com.au/news/01-16/hutchy-on-herald-sun-and-delusional-hird#D3yfhjbMu8HxbXwd.97

Sadly it's hard to tell whether or not these guys have changed tact because 1. It's obvious or 2. The AFL gave the message that Hird was fair game

 

[jenny61_99]

Some journos who have done very well throughout the saga include:

Caro Wilson
Bec Wilson
Pat Smith
Francis Leach
Baker and McKenzie
Roy Masters
Damian Barrett

A common theme is that none of them are members of the footy boys' club.

I really struggle to see how Bec Wilson and Roy Masters made your list.