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Tantidar
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They would still have the money they were planning to offer Sloane, and some
So you're one of the crazy people who values potential, which is normally unfulfilled, over proven performance?
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for what it is worth i think Dangerfield will go to the cats for the compo pick and a deal will be done so the crows are traded their pick 9 as well. The reason why i say that is because you would be sill to not use the compo pick in the trade if you were the crows & the cats because it really is a free pick thats will cost the cats nothing and be a good sweetener when the trade is finished. So in the end i think the Crows will get 2 first round picks for Dangerfield, i might be wrong but i dont reckon the cats will be throwing players into the deal unless they are some spuds. If i was after a player it would only be Motlop. Murdoch, Gregson, GHS arent really top liners and are in their top 10-15 players, Gregson most probably has the most potential
Don't see what choice he had. If he said he was going then it would have been triple the distraction for our finals campaign.
It makes sense that we do go for the compo pick, but with Ken Wood watching closely on this entire situation its pretty logical to think if there is a seperate trade that simply doesnt add up it will be declined immediatley.
Everyone has a choice if they lie or not. I agree it was an excepetionally hard choice. Very few people in this world would make the decision to come out and tell the truth in those circumstances but there are people that would. He isnt one of those people, with exceptionally high integrity. Saying that I would would have done the same as PD, says something about myself also.
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i wouldnt worry about Ken Wood, the AFLPA will be having little wispers in Gil's ear which in course will be whispers in Ken's ear and the deal will go through
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i think a bogus trade has been done in the pass, i think it had to invole an actual player and not just draft pick swapping, i cant remember who it was but i think it had something to do with St Kilda
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I heard that. Same interview only minutes later he talked about how you couldn't believe those journalists who speculate on trade deals.
There's only been one confirmed liar in this whole charade, and it's you Paddy.
All he had to say was exactly what the Crows have been saying - I don't comment on media speculation. End of.
Why doesn't anyone think Geelong and AFC will just do a trade? One that is better than the compo pick? It's so easy.
AFC and Geelong are not bad at the trade table - usually both clubs are reasonable.
What advantage does Geelong gain for risking PD - a slightly cheaper price?
What advantage does AFC get for risking no compo - a slightly better price?
I think that both clubs are working through their plans, and the only sticking point might be which player or which picks.
Which players become less important in Geelong's list once PD arrives? What other deals are in the fire for both clubs regarding trading of picks? Can a swap of other players be part of this - someone on AFC list that Geelong have a need for?
Lots to play out - but I do not think that either club will burn their good reputation, or PD in this deal.
I hope that both clubs come out after the GF and say "we have sorted out a trade between the clubs" and both can get on with other trades ASAP.
AFC and Geelong are not bad at the trade table - usually both clubs are reasonable.
What advantage does Geelong gain for risking PD - a slightly cheaper price?
What advantage does AFC get for risking no compo - a slightly better price?
I think that both clubs are working through their plans, and the only sticking point might be which player or which picks.
Which players become less important in Geelong's list once PD arrives? What other deals are in the fire for both clubs regarding trading of picks? Can a swap of other players be part of this - someone on AFC list that Geelong have a need for?
Lots to play out - but I do not think that either club will burn their good reputation, or PD in this deal.
I hope that both clubs come out after the GF and say "we have sorted out a trade between the clubs" and both can get on with other trades ASAP.
Pretty clear from just a month or so ago, wonder who he was directing it at?
http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/afl-warns-clubs-on-shady-deals-20150916-gjoao5.html
"Wood also wrote that free agency exchanges needed to be in isolation and could not be tied to any other trade between clubs."
I guess he wasn't lying in that he couldn't have actually done a 5 year deal. Doesn't mean he hadn't already made up his mind. Not sure you can really knock the bloke on this bit, this is the environment the AFL has created. What does annoy me a bit is the way he's acted on social media and with the fans about the whole process. Then he comes out and says how difficult it's been.
Anyway, no point worrying about that. He doesn't want to be here so have to accept that and make the most of a shit situation. I'm still confident the club will get a good deal done.
Not too far off mark with treloar 22 yrs old vs danger 25 ... Considering treloar is worth more than an early first round pick it's not far off
It's way off of the mark.
What are the chances Treloar will be a top 10 midfielder in the league?
What are the chances he'll be a Brownlow medalist?
The gulf between those two standards is huge.
Of course danger is the better player here and now , treloar one of best u22 mids in league and gws if they're smart will be looking at pick 7 and another high pick
Realistically if we get something a little better than that it will probably get the trade done
Fair value is 2 first round picks + Murdoch or gregson or at a pinch cockatoo but we will not end up with that as this ain't a fair playing field
We will accept something that is at least twice as
good as compo which makes it similar to the treloar deal ... Pick 7 is a lot better than pick 14 then add potentially another first or second rounder and it's not much different to what we will end up with for danger
No , it's not fair value but compromise in trades is what usually gets them done from both parties
Ps treloar is as well placed as any U22 to become a top 10 mid in league
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What also makes it tough is, if a player from Geelong is involved they will have to agree to the trade. Things could get tricky.
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I'm getting sick of reading "we should accept slightly better than the compo pick" and that will be ok. FFS,
it won't be ok. We have got a top 5 AFL player and a potential brownlow medal winner leaving our club. GWS who is only 5 year old will more than likely receive more for a 21 year old than we will for a 3 time ALL Australian player.
As soon as we match, the restricted/unrestricted free agency part disappears and he simply becomes an uncontracted player.
As a club, we have to set a certain standard and not allow clubs to dictate and demand what we will and what we will not accept for any players leaving our club. This won't be the last time a player leaves out club but we must stand up and say - we won't be walked over.
We have to be willing to hold our nerve and have a certain trade in mind. Geelong will blink first and then we will receive a mutch better trade in return.
However, if we don't it will be the same as every other trade we have done in the past 20 years. We gave up pick 4 for a broken down Wayne Carey FFS. Look atg the Tambling trade, that was awesome. We received bugger all for Gunston and paid massive oiversw fore a rookie listed Jenkins.
We suck at trading. Now it the time to stand up and be counted as a major player. Or Noble had to go before he completely destroys all direction the club is heading in.
it won't be ok. We have got a top 5 AFL player and a potential brownlow medal winner leaving our club. GWS who is only 5 year old will more than likely receive more for a 21 year old than we will for a 3 time ALL Australian player.
As soon as we match, the restricted/unrestricted free agency part disappears and he simply becomes an uncontracted player.
As a club, we have to set a certain standard and not allow clubs to dictate and demand what we will and what we will not accept for any players leaving our club. This won't be the last time a player leaves out club but we must stand up and say - we won't be walked over.
We have to be willing to hold our nerve and have a certain trade in mind. Geelong will blink first and then we will receive a mutch better trade in return.
However, if we don't it will be the same as every other trade we have done in the past 20 years. We gave up pick 4 for a broken down Wayne Carey FFS. Look atg the Tambling trade, that was awesome. We received bugger all for Gunston and paid massive oiversw fore a rookie listed Jenkins.
We suck at trading. Now it the time to stand up and be counted as a major player. Or Noble had to go before he completely destroys all direction the club is heading in.
geelong are under just as much or more pressure ot get the deal done. if danger gets to brisbane, they will be the laughing stock of the AFL. the pressure is on them, definitely not us imho. i would accept nothing less than 2 first rounders and the ****. as above, if we only get 2 picks and even a shitty player, collingwood has paid less for treloar.
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Perhaps it's a Buckley/Malthouse type scenario?
“In Graham’s case I think that’s what makes the game so great that we as players we enjoy about it is the passion that the supporters have and he’s an incredibly passionate Adelaide Crows fan,” Dangerfield said.
I thought we are just people with a hobby Patrick?
I thought we are just people with a hobby Patrick?
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Yes I do. It's a special talent.
Yes we have to go for broke as our start point and the bare minimum is at least twice the value of compo pick ... Hopefully we love a player in draft available at pick 9 and have a deal ready for a menzel and Redden ready as well with our other currency out if this
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