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Respect.

So far so good. He's made a few tough decisions and has not sat on the fence. His ability to deflect and take the heat when the media are on him are exactly what we need.

I'm confident that with him at the helm we are headed in the right direction.

Viva la revolution and a new dawn at Essendon FC.

WE ARE BACK!!!!
 
What a joke. Took to long to make that decision now we are going to miss trade week.

He should have backed knights on the footy show earlier in the year. His uming and arring opened the door for the media to crucify him.
 

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Kelvin I disagree. In fact David Evans is in my opinion potentially culpable of misleading practice under the Corporations Act. In interviews he has stated that Knights had to meet certain KRA's. Failures to meet these in a vanilla contract would mean an employee is performance managed and terminated. In Knights case a failure to meet KRA's shoudl have been a breach of contract. Furthermore he virtually kept guaranteeing Knights position in most media outlets when probed by journalists.
Whilst I think it is fair that Knights receive a payoff, I think $1.1m is excessive, although legally he is entitled to this.
A clean out of the Board is needed. I'd remove Horsburgh, Egan and Evans. There are alot of well connected Essendon people out there who'd be happy to step in and restore our club to the mighty club it once was. Evans and Horsburgh are a team that to date have only shown how you can turn a great club into a rabble of fools.
Egan is currently Chairman of Selectors, and given recent team choices....probably needs a rest.
 
I don't really have an opinion of him yet, but I wouldn't say sacking Knights was a hard decision given he knew it would have the backing of supporters, especially the coterie groups, and not doing so could result in a board spill which could cost him his job.

How he handles the "review" and the appointment of the coaching staff will tell us how good he actually is.
 
I find this tendency to commend the board for some purported courage in sacking Knights is profoundly lacking in factuality.

Realistically, the board were held ransom by coterie groups, select members, and, apparently, sponsors too. Essentially, they were ultimately given little choice but to succumb to the internal and external pressures that were all pointing to the same issue. Unfortunately for Knights, he constituted that issue, and maintaining his role would have meant inordinate costs to the club.

Evans had no real choice, and did not make any excessively brave decision in sacking Knights. From what I have seen, he has been less than convincing in front of the media; this is not an out and out criticism of him, but rather a response to the idea of him being a level headed, well handled man in front of the cameras.

Nevertheless, he ostensibly acts in the interests of Essendon, and whether for his own good or that of the wider Essendon Football Club, he has performed at reasonable levels to this point.

We are far from out of the woods yet.
 
kelvin_sheedy said:
Respect.

So far so good. He's made a few tough decisions and has not sat on the fence. His ability to deflect and take the heat when the media are on him are exactly what we need.

I'm confident that with him at the helm we are headed in the right direction.

Viva la revolution and a new dawn at Essendon FC.

WE ARE BACK!!!!
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What are these tough decisions he has made?

The Knights decision was a no brainer and he was on the board when the Knights extension was agreed to.

Yeah, he looks a rippa....
 
Guys not trolling here, I heard on Sen today that Knights was told by Hutchy at his kids footy game that he'd been sacked , it was Sen .....

Does anyone know if this is the case ?

Very un Essendon like if it's the case.....
 
HighFlyer said:
Guys not trolling here, I heard on Sen today that Knights was told by Hutchy at his kids footy game that he'd been sacked , it was Sen .....

Does anyone know if this is the case ?

Very un Essendon like if it's the case.....
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Hutchy heard there was a meeting between board members yesterday morning and presumedly called Knights to see if he knew anything.
 

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HighFlyer said:
Guys not trolling here, I heard on Sen today that Knights was told by Hutchy at his kids footy game that he'd been sacked , it was Sen .....

Does anyone know if this is the case ?

Very un Essendon like if it's the case.....
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I think Hutchy found out about the board meeting and put 2 & 2 togther more than actually been told. I really hope so anyway.
 
northcote_cowboy said:
Kelvin I disagree. In fact David Evans is in my opinion potentially culpable of misleading practice under the Corporations Act. In interviews he has stated that Knights had to meet certain KRA's. Failures to meet these in a vanilla contract would mean an employee is performance managed and terminated. In Knights case a failure to meet KRA's shoudl have been a breach of contract. Furthermore he virtually kept guaranteeing Knights position in most media outlets when probed by journalists.
Whilst I think it is fair that Knights receive a payoff, I think $1.1m is excessive, although legally he is entitled to this.
A clean out of the Board is needed. I'd remove Horsburgh, Egan and Evans. There are alot of well connected Essendon people out there who'd be happy to step in and restore our club to the mighty club it once was. Evans and Horsburgh are a team that to date have only shown how you can turn a great club into a rabble of fools.
Egan is currently Chairman of Selectors, and given recent team choices....probably needs a rest.
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I think that Kelvin's sensationalist threads are being nicely put in their place here by intelligent responses such as this. I would suggest that Kelvin really has very little knowledge of the capabilities of Evans and may be influenced by the 'Evans' brand rather than any real Evans substance. I'll reserve my judgment on him for now to see how he rides out this critical phase for the club as he isn't entirely responsible for our predicament. I definitely condemn any lynch mob factions while the club is still buoyant and far from a bottoming out disgrace (despite perceptions- we did win 7 games after all, not 3 or less). There is a lot of media hyperbole influencing far too many of us. It's like the sky is falling in. I too demand success for this club but I am still patient (how long since most clubs in this comp have won premierships?). The main obstacle toward success imo would not necessarily be transient incompetence within the club but rather divisional factions caused by irrational passion which can last long term. So while I agree with Northcote Cowboy's assessment that a few blokes might need to answer some serious questions (such as Evans et al), I don't believe that we need to uprise. Stay cool Bombers.
 
northcote_cowboy said:
Whilst I think it is fair that Knights receive a payoff, I think $1.1m is excessive, although legally he is entitled to this.
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so if he's legally entitled to it, it doesn't really matter a shit whether you or anyone else think it's excessive or not, does it?

I agree with the OP. I think Evans has done a good job in trying circumstances. He didn't re-sign Knights. He was left with a shit sandwich. He's made a hard decision for the betterment of the EFC.

Oh, and by the way, scuttlebutt about "coterie groups" etc having an influence on the decision is pure tabloid bullshit. It's sensationalist, and reflects poorly on those who believe the rubbish spilled by gutter journo's
 
Dave Evans only mistake so far is that he is to honest for his own good, and when quizzed earlier in the year about Knights future he should have lied and said he was safe and contracted thus ensuing the end of the season didnt turn into the media circus that it became.
The facts are Evans has only been the number one man since late Dec 09 and really had no power when Knights was elected or re-elected.
He should be remembered for what he does here on, elect the right coach (Mark Williams) and get us back to the powerhouse club that we are, on-field and off-field.
 
Lance Uppercut said:
so if he's legally entitled to it, it doesn't really matter a shit whether you or anyone else think it's excessive or not, does it?

I agree with the OP. I think Evans has done a good job in trying circumstances. He didn't re-sign Knights. He was left with a shit sandwich. He's made a hard decision for the betterment of the EFC.

Oh, and by the way, scuttlebutt about "coterie groups" etc having an influence on the decision is pure tabloid bullshit. It's sensationalist, and reflects poorly on those who believe the rubbish spilled by gutter journo's
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lolz
 

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The Donners said:
That's not a fact.
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In fact it is wrong.

In relation to your sig.

It takes no balls to sack a coach that has been in charge of the team that has had more points kicked against it in the last 3 years than any other team, has had steadily declining membership growth since he has been in charge, has had plummeting attendances, has had backlash from supporters and coteries and has gone backwards from what was a mediocre year anyway and has now finished bottom 3 and missed playing finals which was the minimum requirement and winning a final was the expectation.

Our board is amateur hour and one board member in particular feeds the media.

Get this coaching rebuild wrong and they are all history, all of you, ALL OF YOU!!!!
 
It is disappointing that posters want to criticise the media for writing alleged tales about the internal workings of EFC.

I am certain that the media get some facts wrong but to suggest that coterie groups had no issue with Knights as coach is fallacy.
 
northcote_cowboy said:
Kelvin I disagree. In fact David Evans is in my opinion potentially culpable of misleading practice under the Corporations Act. In interviews he has stated that Knights had to meet certain KRA's. Failures to meet these in a vanilla contract would mean an employee is performance managed and terminated. In Knights case a failure to meet KRA's shoudl have been a breach of contract. Furthermore he virtually kept guaranteeing Knights position in most media outlets when probed by journalists.
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Get your facts right. Evans only said there were performance indicators in Knights' contract (which are effectively benchmarks for bonuses; remember the bonus Knights got for taking the Bombers to the finals last year?). He never said they were key result areas as clauses in the contract.
 
I have faith in Mr Evans. He and Robson will prove to be class acts for this football club.:thumbsu:
 
Mumbo Jumbo said:
Get your facts right. Evans only said there were performance indicators in Knights' contract (which are effectively benchmarks for bonuses; remember the bonus Knights got for taking the Bombers to the finals last year?). He never said they were key result areas as clauses in the contract.
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If thats the case could I please have a job with EFC? Every place I've worked at have KRAs whereby exceeding KRA equates to a reasonable bonus, but failure to meet KRAs means you're on the fast track out of there.
 
Having trouble understanding why we should be toasting him.
Sure he got rid of Knights and for that we should all be thankful but he was there when Knights was extended and his reason for the extension was bloody disgraceful.
 

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