Universal Love David Teague

[gab213]

If true, the question is... why?

I don't really see how that's in Lloyd's best interests unless I'm missing something crucial.

barass liked two posts that one that spoke of assistant coaches and Lloyd not having made any great changes to our panel, the other that talked about Sydney's assistant. One poster suggested that the lack of change was setting up Teague to fail.

Nothing in the discussion suggested that Lloyd had an evil plan to ensure that Teague fails..

 

[Jimmyonesix]

barass liked two posts that one that spoke of assistant coaches and Lloyd not having made any great changes to our panel, the other that talked about Sydney's assistant. One poster suggested that the lack of change was setting up Teague to fail.

Nothing in the discussion suggested that Lloyd had an evil plan to ensure that Teague fails..

Don't know about evil plan but a bit surprised the club including Lloyd and Judd (footy department committee man ) would continue with a support cast that failed a novice coach in Bolton and expect a different result .. but if the evil plan was to bring in Voss without protest maybe it will work ..

 

[gab213]

Don't know about evil plan but a bit surprised the club including Lloyd and Judd (footy department committee man ) would continue with a support cast that failed a novice coach in Bolton and expect a different result .. but if the evil plan was to bring in Voss without protest maybe it will work ..

I reckon that if they wanted Voss he would have been appointed at the time Teague was, I know it's the age of conspiracy theories but gees.

 

[Jimmyonesix]

I reckon that if they wanted Voss he would have been appointed at the time Teague was, I know it's the age of conspiracy theories but gees.

Yes this was my point I don't think it a conspiracy -- but I am surprised they kept the same staff -- only answer is they believe (Lloyd and Judd Liddell ) that they are premiership quality staff

 

[Robert Heatley]

Had to cut sav due to the reduction to the soft cap, no room for a part time goalkicking coach

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Individual sportsman pay for their own coaches. Our forwards should consider their personal returns on investment in paying Rocca personally to coach them.

casboult - fix your kicking again - get another contract. McKay 70 - 80% conversion - add 30% to your contract. Fisher, Fogarty what if you could add 10m of length to your kick - what does that do to your pay packet?

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Why

Perhaps he wasn't the first (or unanimous) choice as coaching appointment back in 2019 and some on the board are up to their old tricks.

 

[FRUMPY]

If it comes to pass that Teague is removed, be it rightly or wrongly, we should get Chocko Williams.

Norm Smith I reckon.......

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[FRUMPY]

Teague needs to be surrounded by assistants who have premiership experience as players and coaches

Why is that? Seems a weird thing to say

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[Hands On]

Spot the Nice guy

 

[BigBreakfast]

Individual sportsman pay for their own coaches. Our forwards should consider their personal returns on investment in paying Rocca personally to coach them.

casboult - fix your kicking again - get another contract. McKay 70 - 80% conversion - add 30% to your contract. Fisher, Fogarty what if you could add 10m of length to your kick - what does that do to your pay packet?

100% agree. It's be a tax deduction too.

 

[JustaBattler]

Spot the Nice guy
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Have a listen to the mongrel the coaches on that Amazon Prime doco dish out to their players....WC/Adelaide/Suns/GWs - all emphasisze the physicality of the game and what is expected ...

 

[GT619]

Perhaps he wasn't the first (or unanimous) choice as coaching appointment back in 2019 and some on the board are up to their old tricks.

Doesn't surprise me. Than why did we choose him was it because our first choices weren't available or not interested

 

[Michael Jezz]

I reckon that if they wanted Voss he would have been appointed at the time Teague was, I know it's the age of conspiracy theories but gees.

Why would Voss come to Carlton, when he has applied to Coach twice and we rejected him.

 

[Michael Jezz]

I am torn as a supporter between the idea that changing the senior coach is a sugar hit and does not ulimately make a difference and the stark reality that Teague hasn't got what it takes to deliver sustained success.

 

[Michael Jezz]

Politically MLG can not sack Teague. Teague is his appointment and if he loses Teague, his presidency is a carcass blowing in the wind-so I think a rehash of the assistants is almost the next and last iteration of the MLG/Teague era-without success both will be gone by the end of 2022

 

[Hands On]

Have a listen to the mongrel the coaches on that Amazon Prime doco dish out to their players....WC/Adelaide/Suns/GWs - all emphasisze the physicality of the game and what is expected ...

Spot on Exactly my Point.

 

[gab213]

Politically MLG can not sack Teague. Teague is his appointment and if he loses Teague, his presidency is a carcass blowing in the wind-so I think a rehash of the assistants is almost the next and last iteration of the MLG/Teague era-without success both will be gone by the end of 2022

MLG's term as president ends at the end of the year doesn't it?

 

[BigBreakfast]

I am torn as a supporter between the idea that changing the senior coach is a sugar hit and does not ulimately make a difference and the stark reality that Teague hasn't got what it takes to deliver sustained success.

A bit early but, I get it

 

[J-dog]

People need to chill out a bit.
1 good game and 1 shit game that we could have won. 20 still to go. We aren't winning the title this year but it can still be a very good year.

Teague has us playing the most cohesive game we have since Ratten and while the weaknesses are obvious they are fixable. The improvement so far is obvious and more improvement will come with more games played.

Whilst people say he plays favourites he is challenging our fringe players to take away spots from Murphy/Casboult etc but they are not playing the role. I've never seen Cunningham or O'Brien do anything to demand a spot. None of Philp, Ramsey, Honey, etc have demanded a spot. Philp got reward early but hasn't starred since.
Gov hasn't demanded Levi's spot. Gibbons, Cotterel and Owies all got rewarded and only Gibbons hasn't struggled too much thus he is in the team. Dow is being rewarded now. Polson used to get rewarded.
The only great unknowns are Stocker and Kemp, and injury and attitude are well known as the reasons why.

Give it a rest people. Rome wasn't built in a day and so long as we keep seeing improvement people should just cool their jets and enjoy watching the team develop even if it is a little slow.

 

[J-dog]

Politically MLG can not sack Teague. Teague is his appointment and if he loses Teague, his presidency is a carcass blowing in the wind-so I think a rehash of the assistants is almost the next and last iteration of the MLG/Teague era-without success both will be gone by the end of 2022

It's tripe thinking like this that keeps us in the mire.

If MLG did nothing about changing a coach he is damned for being stubborn, and if he does change coach he has no faith in what he has built, even though the club, gameplan and list are in the best shape they've been in since Ratts was coach (I'd even argue since 2000).

How about you just get a decent sleep and see if you feel better in the morning?

 

[Iamcarlton]

Pressures on the players right now not the coach imo
As the coach will not be sacked this year even if the lacklustre performances continuue .
Players where adamant they wanted Teague so some self ownership needs to be shown especially after the latest game .
Weve now lost 6 of the past 7 premiership season games dating back to the end of last season .

Mentioned last year we needed to drop some name players to make a statement to the list as you just cant keep sacking coaches if performances are sub standard .

Believe that is even more in need right now
Im looking at Marc Murphy Ed and Cas to be transitioned out well before the end of the season .
Ditch the bruise free footy and lets get physical .

 

[Gavstar]

Spot on Exactly my Point.

For all Cameron’s fury the message is diluted by Coniglio being the least inspiring speaker I’ve ever heard in a footy leadership position.

Get Ross the Boss in as a Teague ruthlessness coach. Famous for not tolerating lack of effort from his players.

 

[BlueJet]

IMO It isn't time to be overly concerned - more that we need to tinker with things to ensure the right balance.
Our gameplan isn't tailored to our list, we don't win enough clean ball or have enough quality users to play as an attacking gameplan as we do.
The Pies shielded their defensive group well & in the end would have a few players contesting with Harry once he started becoming dangerous, meanwhile the Pies were able to find lead up options almost at will whenever entering f50, we didn't really do much to stop this..

I'm not sure that a defensive group containing Doc, Willo & SPS can work particularly when played behind a leaky midfield.

 

[gbatman]

Teague needs time to get things right. His coaching against Collingwood was shocking in regards to tactics and player selection. There is a lot to learn there and if he's any good he will learn something.

The assistants need looking at. A trusted senior assistant with tactical nouse would be valuable.

 

[The Flying Doormat]

Teague needs time to get things right. His coaching against Collingwood was shocking in regards to tactics and player selection. There is a lot to learn there and if he's any good he will learn something.

The assistants need looking at. A trusted senior assistant with tactical nouse would be valuable.

The problem for Teague is that after sacking Bolton four years into a rebuild, he doesn't have much more time to get things right. The appointment of a new coach didn't re-set the clock, it was to increase the trajectory. He's just started his second full season and while it's early, he'd want a few wins on the board pretty quickly.