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Stamos said:
There was a cap amnesty on sackings last year. We could have made changes if we wanted to.
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I didn't know about that, but we might not have had the money in the first place.
 
Ricky Mott said:
Our CEO wants all the power in football.
Give me a bloke that has won 4 flags and had a team in the finals for 15 years. I’d know who the majority of people would take. Our football department is clueless!
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How and why are you comparing Liddle and Clarkson?

One is a CEO and the other is head coach. Should we get rid of Liddle and replace with Clarko? Or get rid of Teague and replace with Liddle?
 

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Gavstar said:
Teague is Blighty with his we will win by kicking more goals strategy.
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controversial...but I like it. Just win. go fast and kick it down the gutses.
However..skill sets will need to be refined plus we do need gears 1 and 2 as well. ;)
 
Remember when it was down to a choice between Teague and Ratts? We know Ratts can coach, but they're not going much better than us.

I think eventually we'll figure out it's not the coach as such. It's something else. Assistants, game theory, whatever.
 
AlecDuncan said:
Remember when it was down to a choice between Teague and Ratts? We know Ratts can coach, but they're not going much better than us.

I think eventually we'll figure out it's not the coach as such. It's something else. Assistants, game theory, whatever.
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Above the shoulders and setups. Easily fixed but Teague needs to get tough with his assistance.
 
SurreyBlue said:
Just on coaches - Blight is on SEN now. LOVE HIM. He is so right on so many levels.
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A lot of what he says is very out dated. Was going on today how you shouldn't have multiple player tackling the player with the ball. All good for 40 years ago but in 2021 you can throw it or go 720 degrees before disposing of the ball, so you often need multiple player to lock it in. Game has changed so much since he played.

He is very supportive of the Teague principles of attack before defence.
 
chunkylover53 said:
It's well-known Clarko holds a silly amount of power at that club. He has a strong say in all their list decisions, I think it's naive to assume he didn't have anything to do with the direction they're heading in.

He didn't intend to 'rebuild'. he's kept his older brigade. Shaun Burgoyne is still playing and he's like, 40. Arguably the greatest coach of all time but he's made a mess of that list.



Meh, Mick Malthouse had that knowledge, Neil Craig too, then Andrew Russell, now Clarko.

There's plenty out there who know what it takes, very few who can implement it at a brand new club and environment.

Bringing across Clarko as head coach would just be Mick 2.0 imo.
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Clarko won flags and tried to win a few more before they needed to do a total rebuild. If he came and had the same dynasty they’ve had, I’d be okay with him trying to sneak another for a couple years
 
McConville said:
Teague simply put the older players back into the prominent positions, which proves nothing. How has it worked out for the development of the kids Bolton was getting games into for the future since Teague took over? If we'd stuck with Bolton, then just maybe, we'd by now have a group of good kids who have learnt the important defensive aspects of how to play, they'd have a good number of games under their belt and we could be adding the offence now, which should always be the last piece of the puzzle. We'd also have a coach with the 'fire in the belly' that so many on here are now calling out for.
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Bolton also had our forward line all playing in the opposition forward line!!

not sure that is teaching anything !!!!!!!!
 
SkyhorseTamer said:
Couldn't care less why he does it if he does it well. Also the next coach will fail again if the right support structures aren't introduced. The name doesn't matter at all.

What Clarkson will bring is knowledge on how a football department should run and the minimum standards. That's what I want from a coach. Don't care who it is. Ruthlessness and minimum standards on performance and accountability getting enforced.

Carlton at the moment has neither.
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Does a plasterer form part of the football dept cap?
 

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So Bolts was too defensive and DT is too attacking.

Here is the solution, get Brendon Teague or David Bolton, problem solved 👍👍👍
 
chunkylover53 said:
How and why are you comparing Liddle and Clarkson?

One is a CEO and the other is head coach. Should we get rid of Liddle and replace with Clarko? Or get rid of Teague and replace with Liddle?
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The CEO and some board members are protecting their decision of the Teague appointment. If Teague was available right now not one team would consider him as a senior coach other than CFC. The CEO and board are doing everything to protect their poor decision. Ron Barassi will be thrown up next to mentor Teague!
 
Ricky Mott said:
The CEO and some board members are protecting their decision of the Teague appointment. If Teague was available right now not one team would consider him as a senior coach other than CFC. The CEO and board are doing everything to protect their poor decision. Ron Barassi will be thrown up next to mentor Teague!
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So many experts who know everything that goes on within the inner sanctum of the club. All this talk from losing a few games of football played against the top teams and with a weakened list early in the year.

Please don't tell me we should be better, we could be better etc, I'm not arguing that point. It's just this scattergun approach here that's annoying, looking for issues within every nook and cranny of the club. Have to question some people's ideas of being a 'supporter'. What I'm seeing from some is just a sense of entitlement.
 
Ricky Mott said:
The CEO and some board members are protecting their decision of the Teague appointment. If Teague was available right now not one team would consider him as a senior coach other than CFC. The CEO and board are doing everything to protect their poor decision. Ron Barassi will be thrown up next to mentor Teague!
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You could say that about a whole lot of coaches in any given year.

Would any other club want Matthew Nicks? Ben Rutten? Stuart Dew? David Noble? Doesn't mean they're all duds, it only means they've been given a shot and haven't yet proved themselves one way or another. Same goes for Teague.
 
chunkylover53 said:
Bringing across Clarko as head coach would just be Mick 2.0 imo.
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Don't agree with that statement...
Clarkson may not be the answer, but Malthouse was such a shit decision..

Malthouse couldn't care less about Carlton, it was all about him and getting to his games record...
He bastardized his legacy and standing in the game for that record...
Really wouldn't surprise me if him and Eddie McChins orchestrated it to F@#k with Carlton
 

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My Hat said:
You could say that about a whole lot of coaches in any given year.

Would any other club want Matthew Nicks? Ben Rutten? Stuart Dew? David Noble? Doesn't mean they're all duds, it only means they've been given a shot and haven't yet proved themselves one way or another. Same goes for Teague.
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You are so right in lumping Teague in with the rest of those coaches. There is one significant difference and that is when the CEO sacked Bolton it was about win loss. We were expected to play finals last year and this year the club comes out publicly and says we will play finals. I think Teague has proven him to be a failure and the board know it and that’s why we see a ban aid solution with Worsfold.
To be compared with Essendon, North, crows and the suns tells me that Carlton supporters are use to loosing and happy with mediocrity.
 
TENACIOUS said:
Don't agree with that statement...
Clarkson may not be the answer, but Malthouse was such a sh*t decision..

Malthouse couldn't care less about Carlton, it was all about him and getting to his games record...
He bastardized his legacy and standing in the game for that record...
Really wouldn't surprise me if him and Eddie McChins orchestrated it to F@#k with Carlton
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In hindsight it was a shit decision.

At the time? We had just got one of the best coaches of all time coming off a flag and Grand Final 18 months earlier. We made excuses for his book tour and other rubbish shenanigans. Realistically we didn't learn his intentions until after 2014 or so.
 
chunkylover53 said:
In hindsight it was a sh*t decision.

At the time? We had just got one of the best coaches of all time coming off a flag and Grand Final 18 months earlier. We made excuses for his book tour and other rubbish shenanigans. Realistically we didn't learn his intentions until after 2014 or so.
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Nup, plenty of us knew it was a mistake up front. The power brokers running the club should have been insightful and intelligent enough to read the room.
 
chunkylover53 said:
In hindsight it was a sh*t decision.

At the time? We had just got one of the best coaches of all time coming off a flag and Grand Final 18 months earlier. We made excuses for his book tour and other rubbish shenanigans. Realistically we didn't learn his intentions until after 2014 or so.
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lols - Malthouse was parachuted into the West Coast team which was probably the greatest team ever assembled - and still only managed to win 2 flags - he should have won TEN with that team - my cat, who died a few weeks ago, and wasn't even alive at the time could have done his job at West Coast - probably better.

Take out the West Coast time and he is still one of the longest serving coaches on record - BUT - that leaves him with one of if not THE worst coaching win / loss records in modern AFL era.

Yeah - wow - absolutely legend, one of the best coaches of all time....are you KIDDING with that ? The guy was a nuff nuff who bullshitted his way through life.

Not sure if you have ever had much time with him, but the guy is a completely insufferable bore and incredibly dim witted - he just puts on this massive show.

Pies are still suffering from having him around.
 

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