Draft Expert Davo-27's 2022 u18 Draft Thread

[pushintheback]

does anyone have the stats for the game?

 

[Davo-27]

i thought i would do a July update for my top 50

a few changes, a couple of players in Scully and Munkara going down the order for not being picked by their teams in the champs, a more clear understanding where the interstate and Victorian players stand in comparison to each other.

also a more clear understanding of the top end of the draft:
Elite: Ashcroft, Wardlaw, Hewett, Keeler, Sheezel imo


July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle

 

[pushintheback]

i thought i would do a July update for my top 50

a few changes, a couple of players in Scully and Munkara going down the order for not being picked by their teams in the champs, a more clear understanding where the interstate and Victorian players stand in comparison to each other.

also a more clear understanding of the top end of the draft:
Elite: Ashcroft, Wardlaw, Hewett, Keeler, Sheezel imo


July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle

IMO Weddle is easily in the top 50

 

[Mutineer]

i thought i would do a July update for my top 50

a few changes, a couple of players in Scully and Munkara going down the order for not being picked by their teams in the champs, a more clear understanding where the interstate and Victorian players stand in comparison to each other.

also a more clear understanding of the top end of the draft:
Elite: Ashcroft, Wardlaw, Hewett, Keeler, Sheezel imo


July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle

Scully pretty ordinary for West U18's on the weekend, radar was off as well, Lemmey better but still down on 2021 form by a fair margin. Barnett excellent again.

 

[briztoon]

Scully pretty ordinary for West U18's on the weekend, radar was off as well, Lemmey better but still down on 2021 form by a fair margin. Barnett excellent again.

Which kid is Adelaide nga?

 

[Mutineer]

Which kid is Adelaide nga?

Keeler

 

[Jazny]

Thoughts on Brandon Leary? I like him more than I liked Menzie when Menzie was playing for Tassie, he seems more consistent and has played very well at TSL level having not come through the Devils system the normal way. I dont think anybody had really heard of him until he showed up as an 18 year old playing for North Launceston. Seems to perform at every step up that he has taken so far. I think he might be worth a rookie spot for someone to see what he can do!

 

[briztoon]

Keeler

So the one SA KPP who is performing.

 

[Mutineer]

So the one SA KPP who is performing.

Nope, Barnett is more than a pure ruck, no reason why he can't play KPP.

Phoenix Foster another that was used in ruck but he's a KPF.

 

[allyearround]

i thought i would do a July update for my top 50

a few changes, a couple of players in Scully and Munkara going down the order for not being picked by their teams in the champs, a more clear understanding where the interstate and Victorian players stand in comparison to each other.

also a more clear understanding of the top end of the draft:
Elite: Ashcroft, Wardlaw, Hewett, Keeler, Sheezel imo


July Top 50
1. Will Ashcroft
2. George Wardlaw
3. Elijah Hewett
4. Isaac Keeler
5. Harry Sheezel
6. Jhye Clark
7. Elijah Tsatas
8. Aaron Cadman
9. Jedd Busslinger
10. Mattaes Phillipou
11. Matthew Jefferson
12. Cam MacKenzie
13. Mitch Szybkowski
14. Adam D'Aloia
15. Brayden George
16. Anthony Munkara
17. Harry Lemmey
18. Jacob Konstanty
19. Oliver Hollands
20. Olivier Northam
21. Kobe Ryan
22. Tom McCallum
23. Harry Barnett
24. Jackson Broadbent
25. Reuben Ginbey
26. Al Davey Jnr
27. Callum Verrell
28. Jaspa Fletcher
29. Tom Scully
30. Jed Hagan
31. Bailey Humphrey
32. Luke Teal
33. Lachlan Cowan
34. Seth Campbell
35. Caleb Mitchell
36. Rye Penny
37. Ted Clohesy
38. Charlie Clarke
39. Toby McMullin
40. Lewis Hayes
41. Will Dowling
42. James Van Es
43. Henry Hustwaite
44. Olli Hotton
45. Darcy Jones
46. Max Michaelanny
47. Blake Drury
48. Luke Michael
49. Coby Burgiel
50. Jason Gillbee

mentions: Archie Lovelock, Hugh Bond, Lloyd Johnston, Jake Walker, Josh Weddle

What are your thoughts on Sam Gilbey? Some seem to rate him pretty highly.

 

[Davo-27]

What are your thoughts on Sam Gilbey? Some seem to rate him pretty highly.

Sam Gilbey looked fantastic in the u17's series last year, his agility and run from half back was a highlight in that series against SA, he then played in the u19's series against SA and i thought he was a lot less influential, whether that be the bigger bodies of guys who were 18-19 and built like men or the rise in competitiveness of those games, but it was noticeable, he has struggled a little this year at WAFL u18s and in the WA team, has not developed much physically either, so after the u17's i had him as a potential 2nd rounder now idk where he stands, maybe a late pick?, had an ok game against VM last weekend.

 

[Futbolista]

Sam Gilbey looked fantastic in the u17's series last year, his agility and run from half back was a highlight in that series against SA, he then played in the u19's series against SA and i thought he was a lot less influential, whether that be the bigger bodies of guys who were 18-19 and built like men or the rise in competitiveness of those games, but it was noticeable, he has struggled a little this year at WAFL u18s and in the WA team, has not developed much physically either, so after the u17's i had him as a potential 2nd rounder now idk where he stands, maybe a late pick?, had an ok game against VM last weekend.

Yeah I thought he was quite good v Vic Metro. In the best six and when the commentator said he's had glandular fever this year it explained his quiet-ish start to the season.

Hopefully now he has his energy back, get in the weights room and can provide a club with a bargain pick.

 

[allyearround]

Sam Gilbey looked fantastic in the u17's series last year, his agility and run from half back was a highlight in that series against SA, he then played in the u19's series against SA and i thought he was a lot less influential, whether that be the bigger bodies of guys who were 18-19 and built like men or the rise in competitiveness of those games, but it was noticeable, he has struggled a little this year at WAFL u18s and in the WA team, has not developed much physically either, so after the u17's i had him as a potential 2nd rounder now idk where he stands, maybe a late pick?, had an ok game against VM last weekend.

Yes. Will be interesting to see where he stands come November. There is no denying his athletic ability and natural talent as a footballer.

Sam Gilbey looked fantastic in the u17's series last year, his agility and run from half back was a highlight in that series against SA, he then played in the u19's series against SA and i thought he was a lot less influential, whether that be the bigger bodies of guys who were 18-19 and built like men or the rise in competitiveness of those games, but it was noticeable, he has struggled a little this year at WAFL u18s and in the WA team, has not developed much physically either, so after the u17's i had him as a potential 2nd rounder now idk where he stands, maybe a late pick?, had an ok game against VM last weekend.

Yes. Will be interesting to see where he stands come November. There is no denying his athletic traits and natural football ability. He has obviously risen in stocks over the past 18 months but agree he has struggled a little this season. His game on Saturday I too thought was ok. Some of that could be due to illness but it will be interesting to see how that plays out over the rest of the season. Would like to see him put a number of consecutive games together over the course of the remainder of the season.

 

[Purplepatch_7]

Where do you rate Steely Green, having just played some good footy at league?

 

[Davo-27]

Where do you rate Steely Green, having just played some good footy at league?

i dont know yet, i would like to see him in the champs for more than 1 game, he wasnt that great against Vic Metro, he had a couple of moments, but also fumbled and turned over the ball a few times, i want to see how he goes against a defensive Vic Country set up and an SA team who always give it their all, so i can compare him to players from other states better, state games can be a good sign, but dont always mean he is AFL standard, i just want to delay giving my opinion until i've seen him in the champs, because i have not seen him last year and he hasnt really impressed yet, i have put him in a list prior as a place holder until the champs, but after the Metro game i dropped him.

 

[Davo-27]

UPDATE. after round 2 of the u16's, the best from the 3 main states and 4 main teams


Vic Metro:
1.Lucas McInerney - hbf/mid
2.Josh Smillie - really good def
3.Levi Ashcroft - mid
4.Jagga Smith - quick but very slim
-------------------------------------------- top 4
5.Luke Wilson - quick utility
6.Sam Fanning - KPP
7.Ty Kitchell - forw
8.Isaac Kako - sml creative forw
9.Damon Hollow - tough def/mid
10.Patrick Said - smart sml def


Vic Country:
1.Finn O'Sullivan - pick 1 contender/great mid
2.Sam Lalor - strong mid
3.Xavier Ivisic - hbf with smarts
--------------------------------------------- top 3
4.Oliver Warburton - mid
5.Jack Ough - quality def
6.Angus Morrison - KPF
7.Tobie Travaglia - quality def
8.Xavier Lindsey - creative flanker
9.Zac McInnes - KPF/Ruck, kicked 5 goals in 1st game


South Aust:
1.Phoenix Hargrave - mid/def
2.Dyson Sharp - intercepting, composed
3.Sid Draper - quality mid
4.Charlie West - KPF
5.Benny Barrett - Ky Pickett type forw
6.Will McCabe - KPD/speedy
--------------------------------------------- top 6
7.Tyler Welsh - KPF
8.Lucas Camporeale - mid/hbf
9.Jacob Newton - mid


West Aust:
1.Deian Roberts - mid/quick
2.Hugh Boxshall - def
3.Otis Harvey - mid
4.Malakai Champion - forw/mid, quick
---------------------------------------------- top 4
5.Austin Van Der Struyf - quick def
6.Chayse Martinson - mid
7.Harry Jones - def
8.Xavier Walsh - KPF

the best player is probably in the worst team, Finn O'Sullivan is an elite midfielder imo

 

[RedmanWasHere]

UPDATE. after round 2 of the u16's, the best from the 3 main states and 4 main teams


Vic Metro:
1.Lucas McInerney - hbf/mid
2.Josh Smillie - really good def
3.Levi Ashcroft - mid
4.Jagga Smith - quick but very slim
-------------------------------------------- top 4
5.Luke Wilson - quick utility
6.Sam Fanning - KPP
7.Ty Kitchell - forw
8.Isaac Kako - sml creative forw
9.Damon Hollow - tough def/mid
10.Patrick Said - smart sml def


Vic Country:
1.Finn O'Sullivan - pick 1 contender/great mid
2.Sam Lalor - strong mid
3.Xavier Ivisic - hbf with smarts
--------------------------------------------- top 3
4.Oliver Warburton - mid
5.Jack Ough - quality def
6.Angus Morrison - KPF
7.Tobie Travaglia - quality def
8.Xavier Lindsey - creative flanker
9.Zac McInnes - KPF/Ruck, kicked 5 goals in 1st game


South Aust:
1.Phoenix Hargrave - mid/def
2.Dyson Sharp - intercepting, composed
3.Sid Draper - quality mid
4.Charlie West - KPF
5.Benny Barrett - Ky Pickett type forw
6.Will McCabe - KPD/speedy
--------------------------------------------- top 6
7.Tyler Welsh - KPF
8.Lucas Camporeale - mid/hbf
9.Jacob Newton - mid


West Aust:
1.Deian Roberts - mid/quick
2.Hugh Boxshall - def
3.Otis Harvey - mid
4.Malakai Champion - forw/mid, quick
---------------------------------------------- top 4
5.Austin Van Der Struyf - quick def
6.Chayse Martinson - mid
7.Harry Jones - def
8.Xavier Walsh - KPF

the best player is probably in the worst team, Finn O'Sullivan is an elite midfielder imo

Of the lists Davo, Dyson Sharp's the only one born in 2007 which makes him 2025 eligible.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

6.Will McCabe - KPD/speedy
--------------------------------------------- top 6
7.Tyler Welsh - KPF
8.Lucas Camporeale - mid/hbf

Further, looks like 2024's gonna be a choc-a-block year for F/S bids.

 

[blueiris]

Has there ever been 2 Brothers rated in the top 5 2 drafts apart?

 

[briztoon]

Has there ever been 2 Brothers rated in the top 5 2 drafts apart?

Not two drafts apart, but the Brayshaw brothers.

I don’t believe anyone is rating Levi top 5. He’s possibly not even top 10.

 

[blueiris]

Not two drafts apart, but the Brayshaw brothers.

I don’t believe anyone is rating Levi top 5. He’s possibly not even top 10.

Okay not what Twomey is saying has him top 3

 

[briztoon]

Okay not what Twomey is saying has him top 3

Haven’t read Twomey yet.

 

[Davo-27]

Not two drafts apart, but the Brayshaw brothers.

I don’t believe anyone is rating Levi top 5. He’s possibly not even top 10.

he makes too many mistakes to go top 10 (Levi Ashcroft) imo, he has a similar build physically to Will, but doesnt have the inside winning ability or the manic run/pressure of Will, but this is just the start of his journey, he might develop a lot or not much by the time his draft year comes along.

 

[Davo-27]

Okay not what Twomey is saying has him top 3

i think shifter said he was in the top 3 for vic metro, not sure on twomey? i think he was saying that to twomey at the time?

 

[Davo-27]

Of the lists Davo, Dyson Sharp's the only one born in 2007 which makes him 2025 eligible.

I don't have any of their dob, but Dyson Sharp looks very mature for a 15 year old, he looks like a grown man.