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The definite starters are in black, from there a lot will vary, and some positions like the second ruck will depend on NAB cup form.

FB:Bell Carroll Whelan
HB: Frawley Rivers Bartram
C: Green McLean Bruce
HF: Sylvia Newton Bate
FF: Robertson Neitz Davey
Foll: White Jones McDonald
Int: P. Johnson Dunn Moloney Wheatley

Then our list is made of youngsters who could have improved: Petterd, Meesen, Buckley, Bode
Depth players: Yze, Jamar, Holland, Miller, C Johnson, Warnock (cya at the end of the year!!!)
And the too early to tell: Garland, Weetra, Morton, Grimes etc etc
 
FB:Bell Carroll Frawley
HB:Rivers Miller Whelan
C:Green Mclean Bruce
HF:Yze Newton Bate
FF:Robertson Neitz Davey

FOLL:White McDonald Jones
INT:Sylvia Bartram Meesen Wheatley

i would like to see Miller tried as a permanent back i saw him play on Hall i think in 2006 and he did a good job on him and he also adds some much needed height (although Rivers does a good job)....Davey switching with Green it would be good to see more of Davey in the midfield and more of green in the forward line. Back up ruckman will probebly be determined through NAB cup(as said by master bate) :thumbsu:
 
FB:Bell Carroll Frawley
HB: Rivers Bruce Green
C: Davey McLean Petterd
HF: Robertson Miller Bate
FF: Morton Neitz Davey
Foll: White Jones Sylvia
Int: Newton Meeson McDonald Moloney
 

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FB: Frawley, Carroll, Whelan
B: Bell, Rivers, Bartram
C: Bruce, McDonald, Davey
HF: Sylvia, Miller, Bate
F: Robertson, Neitz, Yze
Foll: White, McLean, Jones
Int: Moloney, Green, P.Johnson, Newton
Emergency: Meesen, Grimes, Maric
 
B: Bell Frawley Whelan

HB: Rivers Miller Bartram

C: Petterd McDonald Green

HF: Bruce Bate Robertson

F: Davey Neitz Newton

R: White McLean Jones

I: Yze Sylvia Meesen Moloney

E: P.Johnson Morton Dunn Bode
 
B: Wheelan Carroll Bell
HBF: Petterd Rivers Bartram
C: Bruce Maclean Green
HFF: Bate Newton Sylvia
FF:Robertson Nietz Davey
Rucks: White Jones Macdonald
Inter: Moloney Dunn Yze (back up ruck either Jamar johson messen)

Pre season/NAB cup form to decide who gets the back up ruck spot.
 
FB:Bell Carroll Frawley
HB:Rivers Miller Whelan
C:Green Mclean Bruce
HF:Yze Newton Bate
FF:Robertson Neitz Davey

FOLL:White McDonald Jones
INT:Sylvia Bartram Meesen Wheatley

i would like to see Miller tried as a permanent back i saw him play on Hall i think in 2006 and he did a good job on him and he also adds some much needed height (although Rivers does a good job)....Davey switching with Green it would be good to see more of Davey in the midfield and more of green in the forward line. Back up ruckman will probebly be determined through NAB cup(as said by master bate) :thumbsu:

And i've seen plenty of things which indicate Miller shouldn't be on an AFL list.
 
B: Whelan Carroll Bell
HB: Dunn Rivers Frawley
C:Green McClean Pettard
HF: Bate Miller Davey
F: Robo Neitz(c) Bruce

R: White McDonald Jones

I: Johnson, Yze, Newton, Sylvia

Unlucky: Bartam, Wheatley, Moloney (injury prone), then the young kids.

Would love to see Dunn down back! Has some height, not bad speed.

The more I look at the team, it is a worry. Not a real heap of depth. Lets hope these young kids are fast tracked.
 
B. Whelan Carroll Frawley
HB. Bell Rivers Bruce
C. Dunn McLean Green
HF. Newton Bate Sylvia
F. Robertson Neitz Davey
R. White Jones McDonald

Int. Yze Meesen Miller Petterd

E. Bartram P.Johnson Wheatley
 
FB Whelan Miller Wheatley

HB Green Rivers Bell

C Sylvia Jones Petterd

HF Davey Newton Bate

FF Robbo Neitz Bruce

R White McLean McDonald

Int Dunn, PJ, Bartram, Moloney


No Carroll if Bails wants Miller back. On the other hand, he could be keen to keep him forward, as the strong possibility is that this will be Neitaz last year and we need a replacement.

Bruce permanent forward, switching on the ball as a back-up. Green and Rivers patrolling the backline. Dunn to get alot more gametime this year. Petterd starts, he's gonna be a great player for us. Sylvia no longer to be a mid-sized forward and becomes a regular in our midfield. Daniher never really gave him a shot, wasn't til the end of the year that he got his chance, and I saw some promising signs. We all know he's good, others don't, lets hope he and Dunn step up massively and join Mclean and Jones as the future of our club.

I don't think there is a set 22 on our list. Form will dictate throughout the year, as with any club. Lets just hope our boys are hungry enough for the spots that the competition sparks some hunger in them all.
 

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agree with most of what you said Dogs.. but Carroll is part of our best 22.. he is the only tradional full back on our list that is up to AFL standard...

again i refer you to 2006 when he was touted mid season as an All Australian.
 
FB Whelan, Caroll, Frawley
HB Bell, Rivers, Petterd
C Bruce, McLean, Moloney
HF Green, Miller, Davey
FF Yze, Neitz, Robbo
Ruck White, Jones, McDonald
INT Bate, Meesen/Jamar/Johnson, Sylvia, Bartram
Emer Dunn, Wheatley, Meesen/Jamar/Johnson

IMO:

- Backup ruck will be determined by preseason form, with each given a chance to shine. Would not be surprised to see White not play NAB cup and have all three bigs in the side to see who's most effective.

- Miller should only be played as a forward. Two good games against Hall and one against Pavlich do not make up for all the times he's had his pants pulled down back there.

- Davey to play permanant forward who pushes up the ground. Not a fan of his in the midfield and our forward line loses too much when he's not there.

- Yze to play permanant forward pocket where his smarts and skills are best utilised at this stage of his career.

- Morton or Grimes to get a look in before mid year.
 
why not put green back to full forward like 2000. he starred there. he has had to many chances and to much time in the mid field and hasnt proven anything. great kick in and around 50 m line
 
what about cheney he played with frawly in defence at north ballarat 2 years ago and was as good as if not better than played half a year of footy injured last year and was picked on a back flank in this years tac cup team of the year has the ability to play tall or small could be a surprise packet for us this year towled up robbie tarrant who was a top ten pick this year
 
agree with most of what you said Dogs.. but Carroll is part of our best 22.. he is the only tradional full back on our list that is up to AFL standard...

again i refer you to 2006 when he was touted mid season as an All Australian.

Cant understand the negativity of some on Carroll. Silvagni would have had a poor year in 07 the amount of times the ball was delivered into our our defensive 50m, unlike 06 when we were winning.

Miller is a dead set hit up CHF, IMO. We could groom Juice to take over from Nieta, i reckon he would learn a sh1t load playing out of the sqaure next to him. We could really stretch backlines for height with neitz miller juice & robbo.
 
what about cheney he played with frawly in defence at north ballarat 2 years ago and was as good as if not better than played half a year of footy injured last year and was picked on a back flank in this years tac cup team of the year has the ability to play tall or small could be a surprise packet for us this year towled up robbie tarrant who was a top ten pick this year

He could develop well for us, but there are other moe experienced players of his type that can fill that position. I hope he gets a game though.
 

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Cant understand the negativity of some on Carroll. Silvagni would have had a poor year in 07 the amount of times the ball was delivered into our our defensive 50m, unlike 06 when we were winning.

Miller is a dead set hit up CHF, IMO. We could groom Juice to take over from Nieta, i reckon he would learn a sh1t load playing out of the sqaure next to him. We could really stretch backlines for height with neitz miller juice & robbo.
agreed with most points there...esspecially the Carroll negativity.. dont like it!

I dunno about that forward line setup though, it a bit top heavy it would be good to try out for 5 mins of so during game day.. but i think we definately need a smart crumber in there at all times. ie: yze or davey.

If we throw them all in there at once there would be too much clutter in our forward line and extreamly tough to find a target in space.
 

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