Delist

[HBFlanker]

Is this some sort of sick joke of Grima not being at the club next season? He is a walk up start

 

[King Corey]

I have doubts he is going to make it at AFL level. Goldy picked up AFL football the year he was drafted, Daw has played more footy than Goldy did prior to getting drafted. You either have natural ability to understand the game, or you do not and there is only so much you pick up through training and effort.

I think the only role he has shown any real affinity for is that goal square forward, that is largely because he doesn't have to do anything other than leap, mark and kick. He hasn't shown a natural understanding of the game that you want him in the middle.

He is competitive at the centre bounce or a stoppage if he can get a run and jump at the contest, but is showing a lack of footy smarts through the middle.

Factually incorrect. Pure Tas.

 

[tales129]

McMahon, Wilkins, Anthony, warren, curran to take warrens spot on rookie
Taz is done unfortunately
If we are going to be ruthless hine also

 

[Rooboy 96]

Did someone say we should delist Grima, should have kept Delaney and wasn't that impressed by Tippett?

What games are they watching in this parallel universe?

Yep that was me DR, I just see very little point in keeping a KPD on our list that plays 7 games a year, would have preferred to have put some resources into Luke who could see a season out, Narni at his best is easily a better option then Luke, but in saying that Carey at his best is easily a better option then any of our forwards, sadly we will rarely see either at their best in 2014 and onwards.

in 6 seasons at North Narni has played, 13, 17, 12, 13, 17 and 7 this year, Key defenders need to be stable and reliable to build a defence around, those number don't show that.

Tippett, mayby a bit harsh as I only saw him play once or twice live.

 

[koshari]

Yep that was me DR, I just see very little point in keeping a KPD on our list that plays 7 games a year, would have preferred to have put some resources into Luke who could see a season out, Narni at his best is easily a better option then Luke, but in saying that Carey at his best is easily a better option then any of our forwards, sadly we will rarely see either at their best in 2014 and onwards.

in 6 seasons at North Narni has played, 13, 17, 12, 13, 17 and 7 this year, Key defenders need to be stable and reliable to build a defence around, those number don't show that.

Tippett, mayby a bit harsh as I only saw him play once or twice live.

I hate havong a dedicated delist thread. was much more entertaining when there would just be random delist posts popping up in all the other thread's.

 

[The Dingrel]

Actually I did. I rolled my ankle and ran 10km on it 3 weeks later. Took a while to kick a football though.

Are you seriously telling me that Chris Judd pulled Patch's arm that badly that even after surgery and a shitload of time to heal that it would be that ****** that the bloke can't even one grab a football? I find that hard to believe.

Could well be, I dislocated my shoulder (amongst other injuries) and even after reconstruction the bastard pops out very easily. Can't play golf, can't have a hit in the nets with the kids, and i woke up in agony the other day after falling asleep holding the ipad watching game of thrones. In all honesty, would never even contemplate tackling someone. Then again, could be just age or I had a dodgy surgeon. Hard to guage how much impact shoulders have on players because we are always so interested in how they can move, but shoulders will restrict you from doing weights, cause pain in tackling, and would definately have restricted overhead movement.

 

[tazaa]

Actually I did. I rolled my ankle and ran 10km on it 3 weeks later. Took a while to kick a football though.

Are you seriously telling me that Chris Judd pulled Patch's arm that badly that even after surgery and a shitload of time to heal that it would be that ****** that the bloke can't even one grab a football? I find that hard to believe.

So you know how mentally tough it is to get full confidence back in your body then?

Not sure how you can't understand my point then.

 

[DarwinRoo]

Could well be, I dislocated my shoulder (amongst other injuries) and even after reconstruction the bastard pops out very easily. Can't play golf, can't have a hit in the nets with the kids, and i woke up in agony the other day after falling asleep holding the ipad watching game of thrones. In all honesty, would never even contemplate tackling someone. Then again, could be just age or I had a dodgy surgeon. Hard to guage how much impact shoulders have on players because we are always so interested in how they can move, but shoulders will restrict you from doing weights, cause pain in tackling, and would definately have restricted overhead movement.

If his shoulders are that bad that he can't do one of the fundamental skills of his job then it's time to call it a day.

 

[Rooboy 96]

I hate havong a dedicated delist thread. was much more entertaining when there would just be random delist posts popping up in all the other thread's.

yeah, just like I hate when people don't understand you only need to push reply if you are actually replying to their comment. we all have hates we have to live with, some are just far more warranted.

 

[naturally north]

if Sammy never comes good same could be said about him, he has never been the same since that hit he took against Richmond a few years back, was it Martin?

is it worth keeping injury riddled players? no trade value for any.

I agree but the question has to be asked.

doubt any of these will happen, but if they did...

Jacobs and McKenzie are too young to move on after just a few seasons, just my 2 cents.. I like Jacobs he was taken around the Atley pick yet he can play midfield (gets found out occasionally) but I don't see Atley in the middle so I don't know if he too would get found out.

Honestly can't remember Wright getting a 'hit'. Bloody has hurt us then, because early days he looked pretty good.


Jacobs just doesn't turn me on, I see nothing there that screams AFL footballer seems very relaxed if you like.

McKenize I have a feeling he'll move back home, another guy that to me doesn't seem desperate to make it.

I looked up one of our footballers just to see peoples ( experts?) views on him...

*" Possesses a penetrating right foot and makes good decisions with his disposal".

* . "Finds plenty of the ball and always looks to run and carry, showing an uncanny ability to keep his feet in the contest".

* " rarely fumbles".

* Bullock his way through play takes a bump and will keep going".

* "Is a bit like Ollie Wines".

* Dangerous around goal".

* " He's the second best pure inside midfielder in the draft, behind Matt Crouch. He’s very strong in the clearances and applies plenty of defensive pressure around the ball. His tackle numbers are encouraging for teams who want to implement a defensive game style".



The player is Trent Dumont, just screams pick me compared to Jacobs and McKenzie. IMO of course.

But you're correct both are young so have time on their side, just not impressed with either ATM.

Maybe after reading about Dumont we might be able to trade Swallow?


Edit: Just watched Trent's highlights from last week, looks like a throw back to the late 80's reminds me of Matty Larkin. Baggy shorts, stumpy legs. How the hell he managed to handball pretty much behind himself and found the target whilst streaming through the guts was "special".

Also can take a grab above his head x4, wears number 13, would seem a major upgrade on the guy currently wearing number 13.

 

[Joey7]

Why are people writing this crap about spitta - disgraceful. He's coming off a serious injury - he will dominate next year and more importantly lead us to our next flag. We have some deficiencies in our list but not to much - it's just whether brad Scott will be holding up the cup

 

[DJ Dupree]

I wouldnt mind seeing Petrie at CHB, Daw playing in the goal square with Black, Brown, Thomas and Wells up forward. If it looks shot, sub a tall and move Dish forward. If we are going to change up the forward structures, GWS is as good as any team to do it against

Daw wont be delisted

I'd love to see this.

I'm sick and tired of seeing Petrie spud it up in the forward line. He's been awful this year. He needs to get out of there and be accountable for something, not just be terrible in the 50 and have his soft coach apologise for all the 'hard work' that went into his 6 disposals and 1 mark.

I never understand why Daw, a complete rookie to the game who has played, what, ten games or so, has more expectation placed on him than a seasoned veteran and club vice captain who has been around for years. I seriously don't get it.

Daw's rucking alone keeps him on the list, which is another thing that can't be said for Petrie.

 

[FootySmartSimpson]

I'd love to see this.

I'm sick and tired of seeing Petrie spud it up in the forward line. He's been awful this year. He needs to get out of there and be accountable for something, not just be terrible in the 50 and have his soft coach apologise for all the 'hard work' that went into his 6 disposals and 1 mark.

I never understand why Daw, a complete rookie to the game who has played, what, ten games or so, has more expectation placed on him than a seasoned veteran and club vice captain who has been around for years. I seriously don't get it.

Daw's rucking alone keeps him on the list, which is another thing that can't be said for Petrie.

I agree. I think we need to change things up a bit. Say swapping an older 197cm kpp who has lost his running game with younger 197cm kpp who runs all day and marks anything within arms length. I realise Hansen is a defender and has been doing a marvellous job cutting off countless opposition attacks, but Scott needs to change things up and believe it or not he has players who are versatile, he just is loathe to ever make changes/decisions in a game.

 

[ozzyoslo]

Will be interesting to see how the clubs sees Majak now......he'll be out for awhile. The experiment is in the balance now I think.

 

[naturally north]

Will be interesting to see how the clubs sees Majak now......he'll be out for awhile. The experiment is in the balance now I think.

geez mate the body isn't even cold.

One of the things that have annoyed me over the journey that has been at times less than Majak is ( not talking directly at you) how some see him as detrimental to our Club. If he's out for six months so be it. We can afford to carry a guy on our list when we've 38 players + rookies. Curran, Tarrant, and lets not mention the next big thing in A. Kennedy, five seasons wasn't it? For zero games.

I don't think Majak was drafted as a quick fix and could be two years away from regular senior footy.


I'm being honest here the poor buggers copping a lot more criticism that he deserves, if this injury isn't a long term issue for him in life general I'm almost glad that his season is over.

The pressure put on him is ridiculous from our own supporter base there's threads on here stating he should be delisted FFS. And lets not mention the media.

Best of luck and am hoping for a solid recovery and looking forward to seeing him in the royal blue and white again in the near future.

 

[SnowRoo]

Will be interesting to see how the clubs sees Majak now......he'll be out for awhile. The experiment is in the balance now I think.

Poor bugger, at least he has fixed that issue everyone had with his feet pointing the same direction.

 

[archereleven]

lol ^^

 

[ozzyoslo]

geez mate the body isn't even cold.

One of the things that have annoyed me over the journey that has been at times less than Majak is ( not talking directly at you) how some see him as detrimental to our Club. If he's out for six months so be it. We can afford to carry a guy on our list when we've 38 players + rookies. Curran, Tarrant, and lets not mention the next big thing in A. Kennedy, five seasons wasn't it? For zero games.

I don't think Majak was drafted as a quick fix and could be two years away from regular senior footy.


I'm being honest here the poor buggers copping a lot more criticism that he deserves, if this injury isn't a long term issue for him in life general I'm almost glad that his season is over.

The pressure put on him is ridiculous from our own supporter base there's threads on here stating he should be delisted FFS. And lets not mention the media.

Best of luck and am hoping for a solid recovery and looking forward to seeing him in the royal blue and white again in the near future.

With the emergence of Brown.....who has more football nous than Maj, it does put pressure on our list management. We have to continue to turn it over. Our big man list is now an area that needs to be looked at. Im talking spine players.

 

[justroyal]

geez mate the body isn't even cold.

One of the things that have annoyed me over the journey that has been at times less than Majak is ( not talking directly at you) how some see him as detrimental to our Club. If he's out for six months so be it. We can afford to carry a guy on our list when we've 38 players + rookies. Curran, Tarrant, and lets not mention the next big thing in A. Kennedy, five seasons wasn't it? For zero games.

I don't think Majak was drafted as a quick fix and could be two years away from regular senior footy.


I'm being honest here the poor buggers copping a lot more criticism that he deserves, if this injury isn't a long term issue for him in life general I'm almost glad that his season is over.

The pressure put on him is ridiculous from our own supporter base there's threads on here stating he should be delisted FFS. And lets not mention the media.

Best of luck and am hoping for a solid recovery and looking forward to seeing him in the royal blue and white again in the near future.

This is a pretty good post. But I'm glad you highlighted Curran, the club has seen what Tarrant can produce or what he is capable of, doe's Curran get an automatic pass to stay on? I feel as if the club has its fair share of development/ 'could be forwards'

 

[coopers pale]

geez mate the body isn't even cold.

One of the things that have annoyed me over the journey that has been at times less than Majak is ( not talking directly at you) how some see him as detrimental to our Club. If he's out for six months so be it. We can afford to carry a guy on our list when we've 38 players + rookies. Curran, Tarrant, and lets not mention the next big thing in A. Kennedy, five seasons wasn't it? For zero games.

I don't think Majak was drafted as a quick fix and could be two years away from regular senior footy.


I'm being honest here the poor buggers copping a lot more criticism that he deserves, if this injury isn't a long term issue for him in life general I'm almost glad that his season is over.

The pressure put on him is ridiculous from our own supporter base there's threads on here stating he should be delisted FFS. And lets not mention the media.

Best of luck and am hoping for a solid recovery and looking forward to seeing him in the royal blue and white again in the near future.

After however many years on an AFL list, he should by now know where to stand to compete in a marking contest in the forward 50. He stands directly underneath the "highest marking point", making it far to easy for an opponent to run up and either spoil the ball or bump him under the flight of it. That he hasn't fixed that very basic problem after 4 or so years in the system suggests he isn't ever going to get it. I was a big supporter of the experiment, and wanted to get games into him, and I think the club has done that. Sadly I think it's probably time to look elsewhere.

Tis a pity Brown can't ruck like Maj, or Maj can't compete in marking contests like Brown. And that both Brown and Maj aren't built like Tarrant, for that matter.

 

[TennisPlayerAndy]

After however many years on an AFL list, he should by now know where to stand to compete in a marking contest in the forward 50. He stands directly underneath the "highest marking point", making it far to easy for an opponent to run up and either spoil the ball or bump him under the flight of it. That he hasn't fixed that very basic problem after 4 or so years in the system suggests he isn't ever going to get it. I was a big supporter of the experiment, and wanted to get games into him, and I think the club has done that. Sadly I think it's probably time to look elsewhere.

Tis a pity Brown can't ruck like Maj, or Maj can't compete in marking contests like Brown. And that both Brown and Maj aren't built like Tarrant, for that matter.

Que?

 

[SnowRoo]

*WARNING* about to ruin this thread with stats and facts.

Lets look at some other 190+ options from the 2009 draft and their Avgs.

John Butcher - Pick 8 National draft.
Disposals - 8.3
Marks - 2.9
Goals - 1.4
Hit Outs - 0

Daniel Talia - Pick 13 National Draft.
Disposals - 10.6
Marks - 3.7
Goals - 0.1
Hit Outs - 0

Ben Griffiths - Pick 19 National Draft
Disposals - 7.7
Marks - 3.0
Goals - 0.4
Hit Outs - 3.0

David Astbury - Pick 35 National Draft.
Disposals - 10.6
Marks - 3.4
Goals - 0.2
Hit Outs - 0.1

Max Gawn - Pick 34 National Draft.
Disposals - 9.3
Marks - 3.5
Goals - 0.5
Hit Outs - 17.2

Jack Fitzpatrick - Pick 50 National Draft.
Disposals - 8.4
Marks - 3.2
Goals - 1.1
Hit Outs - 5.0

And now lets see Maj

Majak Daw - Pick 9 Rookie Draft.
Disposals - 7.3
Marks - 2.6
Goals - 1.1
Hit Outs - 5.9

Now exclude the outliers in Carlisle and Gunston and compare. Is Maj really that far behind the others from his draft year?

Stats wise pick 9 in the rookie draft is comparable with pick 8 in the National draft.

Talls simply take time more often than not. A tall with lesser football background even more.

Would those calling for Maj to be delisted suggest the others mentioned here be axed too?

 

[Event Horizon]

Now exclude the outliers in Carlisle and Gunston and compare. Is Maj really that far behind the others from his draft year?

Stats wise pick 9 in the rookie draft is comparable with pick 8 in the National draft.

Talls simply take time more often than not. A tall with lesser football background even more.

Would those calling for Maj to be delisted suggest the others mentioned here be axed too?

Many of the players listed are delisting material. Maj is taking time to learn the game, and there are real doubts if he ever will. And if we can afford to give him senior games while he is still learning.

 

[Harris 10]

*WARNING* about to ruin this thread with stats and facts.

Lets look at some other 190+ options from the 2009 draft and their Avgs.

John Butcher - Pick 8 National draft.
Disposals - 8.3
Marks - 2.9
Goals - 1.4
Hit Outs - 0

Daniel Talia - Pick 13 National Draft.
Disposals - 10.6
Marks - 3.7
Goals - 0.1
Hit Outs - 0

Ben Griffiths - Pick 19 National Draft
Disposals - 7.7
Marks - 3.0
Goals - 0.4
Hit Outs - 3.0

David Astbury - Pick 35 National Draft.
Disposals - 10.6
Marks - 3.4
Goals - 0.2
Hit Outs - 0.1

Max Gawn - Pick 34 National Draft.
Disposals - 9.3
Marks - 3.5
Goals - 0.5
Hit Outs - 17.2

Jack Fitzpatrick - Pick 50 National Draft.
Disposals - 8.4
Marks - 3.2
Goals - 1.1
Hit Outs - 5.0

And now lets see Maj

Majak Daw - Pick 9 Rookie Draft.
Disposals - 7.3
Marks - 2.6
Goals - 1.1
Hit Outs - 5.9

Now exclude the outliers in Carlisle and Gunston and compare. Is Maj really that far behind the others from his draft year?

Stats wise pick 9 in the rookie draft is comparable with pick 8 in the National draft.

Talls simply take time more often than not. A tall with lesser football background even more.

Would those calling for Maj to be delisted suggest the others mentioned here be axed too?

Thank you for taking the time to provide us with some irrelevant stats.

 

[SnowRoo]

Thank you for taking the time to provide us with some irrelevant stats.

As opposed to irrelevant opinion, ill trust the numbers every time.

Simple fact is statistically, with less knowledge of the game hes around the mark with the majority of his draft class. Just came a lot cheaper.