Delta Goodrem

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by nicko18
hahaha, where'd you get that from?

Go and buy her album and you will find that it is in where all the words are to her songs, nicko18.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by Katthawk
Thanks. I mean it.

His cancer is very treatable. and is probably not life threatening but the point remains.

He is close to me and to all in my family, whereas I don't have the same feelings for someone I have never met.

I can be so goddamn selfish.

I don't disregard anyone else's problems just my own happen to be enough.

Good luck to you all.

Pass on some get well wishes to your dad, Katthawk. Sorry to hear that he has cancer.

 

[otaku]

Originally posted by Destructive
I'm not a sucker. Mrs Destructive got her album the day it came out. I have to admit, it's better than Kylie and Holly and all the other Soapie stars albums that have been put out.

That doesnt mean that it is good.

better than bad can be (and in this case, is) still bad.

If you wanna listen to music that is aimed at pre-pubescent girls, thats your right. Just dont get upset when the rest of us bag it.

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by goaldrush
Go and buy her album and you will find that it is in where all the words are to her songs, nicko18.

well suzi, i heard the guy who wrote "innocent eyes" on the radio telling of the ordeal she is going through.

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by nicko18
well suzi, i heard the guy who wrote "innocent eyes" on the radio telling of the ordeal she is going through.

The guy who you heard on the radio was Glenn Wheatley, her manager.

 

[Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk]

i dont care what anyone says being positive will not fight an illness.

if i have unprotected sex tonight and be positive that i won't get pregnant do u think that will happen...nooo its nature u can't stop illness either.

it will help her feel better within herself but it won't stop the cancer.

Good luck to Delta anyway, her hair is so beautiful but im sure she will look just as stunning without it!

 

[-PC28-]

Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
i dont care what anyone says being positive will not fight an illness.

if i have unprotected sex tonight and be positive that i won't get pregnant do u think that will happen...nooo its nature u can't stop illness either.

I think your comparison is a little out of left field.

Unprotected sex is your own doing, not natures. You should be well aware of the risks before doing so, where as Delta has no choice in the situation.

 

[Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk]

Originally posted by -PC28-
I think your comparison is a little out of left field.

Unprotected sex is your own doing, not natures. You should be well aware of the risks before doing so, where as Delta has no choice in the situation.

bad example maybe but i am sick of stupid people thinking that being positive will fix everything it doesn't otherwise we would all be magicians.

 

[you_idiot]

Originally posted by Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk
bad example maybe but i am sick of stupid people thinking that being positive will fix everything it doesn't otherwise we would all be magicians.

No one ever said that it does, Spidey.

I'm a staunch believer in having a positive belief, positive self-image, positive outlook, whatever you wanted to call it. And having it isn't the be-all and end-all to life's problems.

But rather, having one is a good start.

Including in Delta Goodrem's case, in her fight against a very treatable cancer.

Not having a go at you, but there are so many people on these boards and in society in general who would rather think negatively and have a negative attitude rather than think positively. Happiness is a personal choice, and I guess I'll just never get it, as to why people choose to be unhappy and negative.

 

[Santos L Helper]

Originally posted by you_idiot
No one ever said that it does, Spidey.

I'm a staunch believer in having a positive belief, positive self-image, positive outlook, whatever you wanted to call it. And having it isn't the be-all and end-all to life's problems.

But rather, having one is a good start.

Including in Delta Goodrem's case, in her fight against a very treatable cancer.

Not having a go at you, but there are so many people on these boards and in society in general who would rather think negatively and have a negative attitude rather than think positively. Happiness is a personal choice, and I guess I'll just never get it, as to why people choose to be unhappy and negative.

Having a negative attitude towards morons makes me happy. What's your point?

 

[otaku]

however, there is abig difference between being positive, and overly optimistc.

And a difference between being negative, and being realistic

 

[you_idiot]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper
Having a negative attitude towards morons makes me happy. What's your point?

Whatever floats your boat.

Like I said, it's your personal choice, and you have to live with it.

Same with my choices. My decisions, and my peace of mind.

 

[you_idiot]

Originally posted by otaku
however, there is abig difference between being positive, and overly optimistc.

And a difference between being negative, and being realistic

Fair point, there are gray areas within these philosophies.

It is possible to be positive and remain realistic.

I think the word you're looking for is "pragmatic".

 

[Mobbs]

Hope she pulls through ... wouldn't have a clue if she's any good or not, haven't heard her. But it is sad that someone can be hit with damn cancer at such an early age, and in this case it looked like it was right at the point she was accelerating her career accomplishment.

I think Hodgkins was the type of cancer that got my Dad. Don't s'pose that's relevant, unless Delta's been shovelling super phosphate for a living.

Positive approach certainly is helpful, it as a very strong mental tool, and sometimes your mind's approach can affect your body's performance. As said above, though, this doesn't mean you just say "I affirm everything will be ok" and then not go and do the medical/rehab/therapeutical stuff that's vital.

 

[dr nick]

Originally posted by goaldrush
The guy who you heard on the radio was Glenn Wheatley, her manager.

that is rubbish. i know who glenn wheatley is, and the guy who wrote innocent eyes i'd never heard of. besides, Glenn was in Hawaii at the time of the interview.

delta writing her own songs good luck to you

 

[Asgardian]

A positive attitude?

HA

Tell yas what, I'm bloody positive we are all gonna die sometime.

Go stick your positive attitudes where the sun don't shine, life sucks, you all suck, every bloody thing sucks, rack off arseholes.

I'm not in the god damned mood for crap, and 99% of you bastards only know crap. Go hide in your own corner of the god damned universe, and blow your stupid moronic head clean off your neck.

Be sensible, don't reply to this, you need all your brain power to continue breathing

 

[otaku]

Originally posted by Asgardian
Go hide in your own corner of the god damned universe, and blow your stupid moronic head clean off your neck.

*BOOM*

awww, crap - missed

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

Originally posted by nicko18
that is rubbish. i know who glenn wheatley is, and the guy who wrote innocent eyes i'd never heard of. besides, Glenn was in Hawaii at the time of the interview.

delta writing her own songs good luck to you

No he isn't, he's back in Australia. I heard and saw on channel ten news on Friday.

 

[Diego]

I wonder what she will look like bald.

 

[gerling]

Originally posted by Frosties_Flank
I wonder what she will look like bald.

Ask Jude Bolton... oh, you mean her head?

 

[Diego]

Originally posted by gerling
Ask Jude Bolton... oh, you mean her head?

I think she had the brazilian anywayz..they are just freinds!

 

[bucksisbest]

You think she has a brazillian.. cut the crap Frosties you wouldn't have a clue.
Jude Bolton wouldn't know either , Blair McDonough would have an idea though.
I hope Delta gets well..

 

[carn_the_nmfc]

If you want to send Delta a get well message, Please click on the link to her site.

http://www.deltagoodrem.com and don't forget to click on get well messages.

 

[scmods]

Originally posted by goaldrush
don't forget to click on get well messages.

Damn! I clicked on irrational hate messages instead!

 

[The Legend]

Originally posted by bunsen burner
What does this have to do with me? That old chestnut is a copout.

Given that you're happy to slag her off, it has everything to do with you. How are you qualifying your remarks?

A lot of these mass-produced 'artists' lack real talent.

And you won't get any argument from me on this point.

Sure they can sing and play an instrament, but I have mates who can do that - well.

That's an even bigger, mouldy chestnut than the one I rolled out. I don't have enough fingers and toes to count the number of people who I know that are in exactly the same situation. Some of them decided that pursuing a career in music wasn't putting the roof over their head, and decided to get a real job. Others stuck with it and are reaping the rewards (28 Days, Superheist-apologies for the name-dropping).

The difference between talent and real talent is that people with real talent create (invent) their own music.

Sometimes, yes. People would also argue that Pavarotti is talented and a genius-but he's not inventing his own music (perhaps not he best example, but I think you know what I mean).

A lot of these video hits stars are talented compared to you and me, but in context they seriously lack talent.

I think you're confused by the differences between talent, genius, ability, and marketability.

They're not talented if you compare them to, say John Lennon, Beethoven, Michael Jackson etc.

Refer to my remark above. Lennon and Beethoven were both gifted with musical genius, as well as great talent and ability. The type of musical anomaly which comes around once or twice every generation, perhaps?

How do you compare Jacko with these two "Masters"? There is simply no comparison. Jacko's genius emerges purely as a showman-not unlike Sammy Davis Jnr. Jacko is EVERY bit a produced artist, who also has the luxury of being able to utilise an enormous budget, enabling him to enlist the likes of Quincy Jones and whatever musicians and songwtriters to assist him in the process. Unfortunately, Jacko never got past "Thriller" (which I rate as an excellent album FWIW). Now if you'd said Prince...

Firstly, the people you mention are a rarity. Secondly, the people you mention aren't really in the Delta Goodrem mould.

Well, I guess I was just responding to the notion that Delta was signed purely for her looks. Yep, the folks I mentioned are a rarity, they definitely aren't in the same area as Delta, and some of them are dripping with talent. However, they are unattractive, which is why I listed them. In any case, both you and I have responded to a Strawman argument on that point IMO. The other significant difference between Delta and these other artists is that she hasn't paid her dues via 5-10 years of grind and sweat on the pub/club circuit (but she's not responsible for that)

Delta Goodram is a produced artist. I doubt she has the talent to create stuff without the help of a bunch of record people who have a stake in the profits.

Wake up and smell the coffee! In general they're all produced artists, including the birds that you've mentioned. Lots of money gets invested in these kids/women to maximise the possibility of returns to the very large record industry. It's one BIG business, and as I'm sure you know, BIG business doesn't tend to throw money around for philanthropic purposes unless there's something in it for them.

In general, Delta's music (and some of it clearly isn't her own) is Formulaic, derivative and very, very safe. Her lyrics are juvenile teen garbage. She is being packaged as a classy alternative to wannabe songstress bimbo hacks who find their start on TV. Don't forget, SHE'S 18!!! How profound were any of us at that age? Her music isn't Beethoven or Lennon, but I felt less outraged when I heard it as opposed to the horror of hearing Tatu or The Vengaboys for the first time (you see? I agree with you).

She wouldn't have any clues (at this stage in her career) regarding the magic that is a recording studio. She probably doesn't know what an E.Q. curve is, why the Rolloff on the lower piano notes is screwing with the mix, the importance of compression/limiting, or how many milliseconds that the delay should be calculated at. She's probably so ignorant that she doesn't know which end of the guitar lead goes into the amp, and which end goes into the guitar. In fact, she's probably off shooting Neighbours when these issues need to be addressed.

In short, Delta isn't to be blamed for her music. Nor is she responsible for the situations in her life which have seen her catapulted to the position she's in e.g Attractive, she's from wealthy stock, her Dad has probably played Golf with Glen Wheatley (another high profile Swans supporter) for years. Cronyism sucks, but that's not Delta's fault.

My personal preference for her would be that she gets over her illness and finds some true passion in her life, that will be reflected in her music and lyrics. I also hope that she gets enough clout behind her to cast off the parasites in the music industry, and like Jacko, can afford the luxury of employing great songwriters and producers. Without them she's just another chick playing the piano (like Danielle Spencer, or that ridiculous bird from "The Block").

In closing, if Delta and her music present real issues for you, then I'd suggest avoiding Shopping Complexes, Television, FM radio stations affiliated with NOVA/FOX/MMM, and any form of tabloid media which is in print. The girl won't be going anywhere for awhile (unless she succumbs to the Lymphoma).