Remove this Banner Ad

List Mgmt. DFA targets

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

4#Didak#4 said:
Some conflicting statements in there. I don't think there is hard and fast rules on recruiting strategy. You have to recruit based on where you are and where you want to be. Horses for courses. Depth and injury cover is integral if you want to have any hope of being a flag threat ever, unless you have Jesus on your medical team.

I think we now are approaching a fine best 22, however as you pointed out we have some areas like key forward and backs that if we get injuries we in big trouble. Mitch Brown is an ideal depth player but not best 22 for us, however he could become vital if the worst happens - he would be an example of recruiting for depth and injury cover, although he likely will go before we get a chance.

This is a year where there is simply not a lot of talent about so you are really going to be lucky to find the next big thing in a DFA and even the draft this year. Its a time where we should look for players that are going to fill holes in our depth chart (and we have quite a few), rather than give opportunities to unlikely risky prospects that may succeed but most likely end up on the delisted list and contributing nothing. I think every player picked up should serve a purpose in the overall direction of the club.

Age profile is an important factor but as you say a Stokes who is going to be 30 next year could perform a mentor role whilst serving as a fall back for the senior team, Adcock and Ray similarly.They are all unlikely to be best 22 or in our next flag - but they may provide a temporary experience fix and some education/leadership.

We have loaded up on a lot of youth and a lot of top end talent in the last few years, I expect we will soon be taking the next step (which started in this years trade period) in targeting players who will round the team off in areas of deficiency. Hawthorn & Geelong have done this for years to maintain success and support the quality youth it drafted in originally.
Click to expand...
We have enough experienced leaders running around on the park. Ones with premiership experience too, and a few of them will be seeing a bit of VFL time next year. We don't need to recruit D grade old hacks for their "ëxperience" and educational capacity. What were the conflicting messages? I said I'd look at Brown and Daw because they could potentially be best 22 in a specific need area that we are light on (KPF). I stand by this assessment. I mean, after Cloke they are only competing with Moore, White and Gault so they have to stand a decent chance of making best 22.! I would only want stokes if he was going to be played in the seniors.. no point if he's not up to it anymore and he can't mentor Elliot from the VFL can he. Small forwards are an area we could use some help in for the short term. I'm still not convinced Fasolo with Elliot works structurally. There is absolutely zero purpose in the club recruiting old and frankly very average midfield type players like you're suggesting such as Ray and Adcock. It's just a silly idea given our existing depth and youthfulness in those type of players. You don't recruit for your VFL team and you don't recruit nothing players who will only suck games away from youngsters we should be developing. I'd much rather see Broomhead, Aish, Goodyear etc used as our depth and injury cover.. and that way we get experience and development into them as is required in our situation. It's not like we're in a premiership window next year and we have a proven track record of getting results from late picks and rookies. What would we get out of Ray FFS?? A long term spud who has publicly stated that he likes beating Collingwood more than anyone and our supporters are Ferals! I'd throw up if I saw him wearing our jumper.
 
Tails1 said:
So what's the go with DFAs? Do they go straight onto the main list with the offset being 1 less draft pick per added player?

Or do we just nominate them (like Frost) and then add them via a late draft pick?

It's been very quiet on the DFA front. Very little news from any clubs being linked to players. Seeing it's been open since Saturday I would have thought there would be a few rumours floating around considering it's a weak draft year.
Click to expand...
I'm sure they just go straight on to the list. They don't get a mention in the draft.

I'm surprised as well that no-one has been snapped up as yet. e.g. Andrew Moore to Richmond was considered a near certainty to happen.
 
Tails1 said:
So what's the go with DFAs? Do they go straight onto the main list with the offset being 1 less draft pick per added player?

Or do we just nominate them (like Frost) and then add them via a late draft pick?

It's been very quiet on the DFA front. Very little news from any clubs being linked to players. Seeing it's been open since Saturday I would have thought there would be a few rumours floating around considering it's a weak draft year.
Click to expand...
DFA would go straight on the main list (would be included in the 2nd list lodgement).
We currently have 35 (including Frost upgrade).
Hence we can draft (minimum 2 live picks + Frost) up to 5.
Or a combination of draft & DFA.
Expect our senior list to TOP out at 38 this year.

Many DFA still away? So clubs need to 1 on 1 with them & perform medicals.
Maybe they return this week from their trips?
 

Log in to remove this Banner Ad

JED ADCOCK (BRISBANE LIONS)

206 games, 59 goals, 29 years old

Jay Clark: Former Brisbane captain. There’s a bit of a rumour about Collingwood having a look at him. Remember they lost Paul Seedsman off a half-back flank. Collingwood don’t have a whole lot of experience, another senior body would go alright at the Magpies. How did Brisbane delist him? I’m not sure. Was he going that bad? It’s a bizarre one.

Garry Lyon: He played forward in the last 10 or so games and kicked four goals in his last game. He was probably playing some of his best footy towards the end.
Click to expand...

http://www.triplem.com.au/melbourne...sess-the-best-delisted-free-agency-prospects/
 
Grimley or Gorringe, play them at CHF and Cloke out of the Square, allow White, Cloke and Grimley/Gorringe to rotate and roam the wings and forward flanks. Frees up Reid to play back with the option of sending him forward. Gain experience and leadership down back for our young backline. It would be nice to have someone other than Cloke taking a mark from a kick in. White was destined to be that guy I reckon, but it is yet to pay off.
Either could be used as a back up ruck which allows Witts and Grundy to rest or if we have any injuries. We're not that deep in the ruck department I think. Cox needs a little more time, I hope he comes on this year.
Adcock to play off the back flank for a year or two whilst the younger guys get bigger and experience. He'd make an excellent mentor to guys like Ramsay, Maynard and Williams. I believe Adcock would take the opportunity to play with the Pies with both hands. He also kicked four goals in his last game, against the Dogs too, so mild competition as opposed to a Melbourne or Gold Coast.
My two cents (with inflation it may actually be worth something!)
 

Remove this Banner Ad

I'd love to get Adcock, he would suit us perfectly & unlike the other DFA's he can actually still play.
 
I really want to look at Gorringe and Adcock.
Gorringe: I can't see Witts staying if he can't et a decent run against it this year with Grundy being #1 Ruck. Gorringe could slip in as perfect ruck depth with Cox from 2017 onwards.
Adcock: I think his experience would be valuable for the younger guys. Even if he only plays 10 games of AFL I can see him assisting the development of Maynard/Shaz ect as well as giving us extra depth.

The draft is rubbish this year from all reports and after trading in A Grade young Talent in Trelour and Aisho its not going to hurt the list at all to put these guys on even on single year deals.
 
Adcock would be useful I think. He isn't just a defender either. He played a blinder up forward vs Dogs last round. Costs next to nothing. Have a geez.
 
MyManLynch said:
Ryan Crowley is not required as we have Crisp & Caff.
Still think Grant (another goal kicker) or Adcock.
Grant can play when motivated, if he can find his mojo he is worth a spot.
Adcock provides depth & experience.
1 year contracts only, low salary base with trigger for minimum senior games.
No point going late into this draft & having to sign 2 year contracts for draftees.
Click to expand...
I would take Crowley (hardened stormtrooper) over Grant (string bean tryer) in a heart beat simply to give the younger blokes some steel in their vicinity.
Of all the available delisted players....Crowley stands out as a 1-2 year bargain, ready made to destroy the oppo players, to protect and embolden our youngsters.
Adcock would be just another player of that type in an already burgeoning list of players of that type....
We still need some hard men.
 

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

matt_hillier said:
I really want to look at Gorringe and Adcock.
Gorringe: I can't see Witts staying if he can't et a decent run against it this year with Grundy being #1 Ruck. Gorringe could slip in as perfect ruck depth with Cox from 2017 onwards.
Adcock: I think his experience would be valuable for the younger guys. Even if he only plays 10 games of AFL I can see him assisting the development of Maynard/Shaz ect as well as giving us extra depth.

The draft is rubbish this year from all reports and after trading in A Grade young Talent in Trelour and Aisho its not going to hurt the list at all to put these guys on even on single year deals.
Click to expand...
Gorringe would handy just to win trivia nights......(what word rhymes with orange?)
 
Timmy from Thomastown said:
Adcock.
Click to expand...
No........he wouldn't make our best 22 hence is denying a young player an opportunity. Adcock is not going to improve our list.
To put it into perspective Brisbane who finished 2nd last this season sacked him.
 
Last edited:
Just out of curiosity can someone who knows post a list or give a few examples of DFA's who have gone on to have good careers.
Is it really worth drafting them or are we better off getting some speculative young guys in the draft.
 
Cory said:
We should grab Adcock. Some experience is needed with out defenders.
Click to expand...
We have enough experience back there provided they are all fit.
Goldsack, Toovey, Reid, and Brown have all played over 100 games.
Williams (57 games), Langdon (41 games), Sinclair (50 games), Frost(44) are the next best and then there is the potential to play Pendlebury and Sidebottom back there at times as well.
 
Last edited:
ottoman said:
Just out of curiosity can someone who knows post a list or give a few examples of DFA's who have gone on to have good careers.
Is it really worth drafting them or are we better off getting some speculative young guys in the draft.
Click to expand...
Dylan Roberton and Matt White
 

Remove this Banner Ad

Similar threads

SchuPie
    • Like
Trade + FA targets 2024
2 3 4 5 6
Replies
148
Views
12K
Pedro
Pedro

Remove this Banner Ad

🥰 Love BigFooty? Join now for free.

Back
Top Bottom