Opinion Did Taranto and Hopper make a mistake leaving the Giants for Richmond?

[Giant Pete]

Happy with this trade.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Blind Freddy could see trading for Hopper on a 7 year deal was a bad move.

Think they would be happy with Taranto.

 

[10571z]

Blind Freddy could see trading for Hopper on a 7 year deal was a bad move.

Think they would be happy with Taranto.

Taranto gives the opposition the ball more often than to his team mates. Absolutely useless

 

[STPer18]

Dimma would be rapt with the trade. Taranto's been hitting his blokes up lace out all half.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

Taranto gives the opposition the ball more often than to his team mates. Absolutely useless

Wouldn’t call him useless. Plenty of gun mids with below average disposal. You accept that for the other good things he does.

 

[Cleansweep17]

I like this trade pick 2 sounds good to me

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I like this trade pick 2 sounds good to me

Keep huffing that copium

 

[le dominateur]

Giants are better off without those potatoes


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[Cleansweep17]

Keep huffing that copium

Mate it seems to be working!!!

 

[Gavin Excell]

Feel sorry for the blokes after being sold a lemon by Hardwick

 

[RUNVS]

Said it on the game day thread but this feels similar to Hawthorn when they recruited O'Meara and Mitchell. Hawthorn miscalculated where their list was, tried for one final flag and it ended up delaying their rebuild a year or two. Richmond wanted one more flag and they thought Hopper and Taranto would help them deliver it, but it turned out even with those two the premiership window had closed, and by bringing them both in they were not able to invest in the draft in the last 2 years like they could have, which means they have also delayed their rebuild.

 

[RUNVS]

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I thought for years that GWS had a lot of downhill skiers in their midfield 5 years ago, players that looked amazing when the game was easy, but went to water when it wasn't. I feel like they have systematically managed to trade away most of those players and it has helped.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Said it on the game day thread but this feels similar to Hawthorn when they recruited O'Meara and Mitchell. Hawthorn miscalculated where their list was, tried for one final flag and it ended up delaying their rebuild a year or two. Richmond wanted one more flag and they thought Hopper and Taranto would help them deliver it, but it turned out even with those two the premiership window had closed, and by bringing them both in they were not able to invest in the draft in the last 2 years like they could have, which means they have also delayed their rebuild.

Big difference is that Hawthorn were a fair way down the path with Coniglio too.

They thought they’d also be big shot at Lynch.

Then Rough got Cancer and Rioli retired….things went south quick.

 

[RUNVS]

Big difference is that Hawthorn were a fair way down the path with Coniglio too.

They thought they’d also be big shot at Lynch.

Then Rough got Cancer and Rioli retired….things went south quick.

Was there a possibility of Hawthorn getting Coniglio, Lynch, Mitchell and O"Meara?

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

Was there a possibility of Hawthorn getting Coniglio, Lynch, Mitchell and O"Meara?

Coniglio was being lined after the other two. He’d told people close to him in WA he was headed to Hawthorn, which is why the WA media commentator, Vlahos, was stating as much.
We had ITK posters on our board saying Cogs was coming until Gil got involved.

Lynch who knows, but not after hawks had a poor 2017.

 

[Dangerousfield]

GWS sold their two least effective mids for some quality ND picks - made off like bandits.

Worse mistake a club can make is to misjudge where their list is at. Best Hawks and Tiges could hope for was a 'dead cat bounce' and both are now paying for that misjudgement.

Richmond has a lot of players 30 and over to shed in the next few off seasons with little coming through and can't see them being an attractive club for players looking to move. Hard times ahead, enjoy them Tim and Jacob.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Coniglio was being lined after the other two. He’d told people close to him in WA he was headed to Hawthorn, which is why the WA media commentator, Vlahos, was stating as much.
We had ITK posters on our board saying Cogs was coming until Gil got involved.

Lynch who knows, but not after hawks had a poor 2017.

ITK
Right

 

[Mr Meow]

Hopper played well today while Taranto had a shocker. Oddly, they've very rarely both played well at the same time for Richmond.

 

[kreuze_missile]

They chose the money. Fair enough.

Funny part is that I don’t think they make either side better.

Working out as well for Richmond as Chris Yarran.

 

[Tonythetiger]

Said it on the game day thread but this feels similar to Hawthorn when they recruited O'Meara and Mitchell. Hawthorn miscalculated where their list was, tried for one final flag and it ended up delaying their rebuild a year or two. Richmond wanted one more flag and they thought Hopper and Taranto would help them deliver it, but it turned out even with those two the premiership window had closed, and by bringing them both in they were not able to invest in the draft in the last 2 years like they could have, which means they have also delayed their rebuild.

We actually invested pretty heavily in 2021, taking 5 picks in the top 30 including Gibcus, Brown, Sonsie, Banks and Clarke. So I think a lot of us were reasonably content that we could trade out a few picks to improve the list. The biggest issue is that we have youth but it's all unproven. It's a logical result from contending for a few years and not having much of a youth focus.

We have such a bad strike rate of first rounders I generally don't mind if we trade out. I also think when you trade in for players, it's whose available. So yeah it would have been better if Hopper and Taranto were a couple of years younger but it plugs a few holes with all our retirements.

With all that said, I think it's going to be a rough year ahead.

 

[MisterMarcus]

Wait....were Richmond fans seriously trolling GWS after last year's prelim, saying Tim Taranto

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would have made the difference??

Pies would have won by 6 goals with all the freebie turnovers Taranto would have given them.....

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

ITK
Right

Yeah, every board has em, but we have 1 very good one amongst a bunch.

 

[Gavin Excell]

Yeah, every board has em, but we have 1 very good one amongst a bunch.

And the AFL knocked it on the head because they feared Hawthorns renewal

Please

 

[Rich01]

Wait....were Richmond fans seriously trolling GWS after last year's prelim, saying Tim Taranto would have made the difference??

Pies would have won by 6 goals with all the freebie turnovers Taranto would have given them.....

Nah, you’re just making shit up to stir the pot.

 

[Kreuuuzeurns]

And the AFL knocked it on the head because they feared Hawthorns renewal

Please

Ask the Carlton ITK’s they’ll tell you the exact same thing about Coniglio.

He probably never even thought about leaving, just used our clubs to drive up his contract at GWS. Good on him.