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Daniel Kerr
Career Stats:
DOB: 16-05-1983 178 cm 78 kg
155 AFL games
1652 Kicks (10.68 avg)
421 marks (2.71)
1540 H/B (9.93)
3192 Disposals (20.59)
90 goals (0.58)
497 tackles (3.2)

2008 stats
11 games
131 kicks (11.9)
24 marks (2.18)
130 H/B (11.8)
261 Disposals (23.72)
6 goals (0.54)
26 tackles (2.36)

Alan Didak
Career Stats:
DOB: 15-02-1983 182 cm 84 kg
138 AFL games
1430 Kicks (10.36 avg)
568 marks (4.06)
474 H/B (3.43)
1904 Disposals (13.97)
195 goals (1.41)
228 tackles (1.65)

2008 stats
18 games
325 kicks (18.05)
102 marks (5.66)
77 H/B (4.27)
402 Disposals (22.33)
24 goals (1.33)
38 tackles (2.11)

A statistical comparison no more no less.
Stats in general dont automatically point to the better player but as these 2 players are being discussed as a possible trade I thought I would put their career and 2008 stats up.

FWIW, I rate Kerr the better midfielder but Didak the overall better package.
Didak is 3 months older than Kerr.
Didak has finally moved into a midfield role and was easily the leading kickgetter up until his suspension.
Obviously doesn't handball too much but i would suspect that as one of our few reliable and skillful kicks his instructions and instincts would lead him to getting onto his trusty left foot more often than not.
Is extremely dangerous around goals using his sublime skills and x factor.
Is a proven big game player who is about to enter his prime and has kicked more than his fair share of "clutch" goals.

Using Didak in order to get Kerr to the club will improve our midfield but I suspect that it will be only marginal.
As Didak gets some more "midfield pre seasons" under his belt this margin may well be eradicated in any case.
Kerr has never been a consistent goal kicker and is less versatile than Didak. Kerr cannot be moved closer to goal if he is struggling to shake a tag as easily as Didak can.
Didak is a far more durable player seeming to miss a lot less games through injury than Kerr. This can obviously be attributed to their styles so is not necessarily a slur on Kerr, just an observation.
Onfield discipline is a non contest with Didak the far more disciplined player.

Off field discipline is also a non contest although Didak hasn't got much bragging rights here.
Kerr from memory has assaulted the captain of his club, stolen a prescription pad in order to acquire valium, assaulted a taxi driver which led to a conviction, was infamously recorded discussing the effects of Special K with a drug dealer and has been involved in another assault involving his old man. (not sure if a conviction was recorded)

Didak was involved in the infamous Hudson saga. No convictions laid but a fine line was certainly pushed given that he did not disclose the activities that night to either the club or police.
Was also involved in a minor argument with a taxi driver. No conviction.
Was recently a passenger in a car driven by an intoxicated teammate. Involved in a cover up that left the club red faced and seething. No conviction.

If you've bothered to read this far, my point is....keep Didak and use someone/something else to get Kerr to the club.

What are the thoughts of fellow BF magpies?
 
Off field discipline is also a non contest although Didak hasn't got much bragging rights here.
Kerr from memory has assaulted the captain of his club, stolen a prescription pad in order to acquire valium, assaulted a taxi driver which led to a conviction, was infamously recorded discussing the effects of Special K with a drug dealer and has been involved in another assault involving his old man. (not sure if a conviction was recorded)

Just on that, one hefty point in Kerr's favour compared to Didak is that the last time he was involved in any trouble off field was preseason 2007. Off field at least, he's pulled his head in since then.
 
Also, just one thing in favour for Kerr....


IS THAT HE IS TWICE THE PLAYER DIDAK IS!!!

That was a hilarious read though G.O.B. Cheers mate.
He is twice the MIDFIELDER that Didak is.
As a small forward Didak is arguably the best in the league.
 

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Didak easily


has never played second fiddle to anyone.


takes a top tag every week.


can win a game off his own boot or turn a side upside down.

skills way above Kerr's

closest thing to Daicos
 
The reality is that Kerr is a much better midfielder than Didak and Didak is a much better forward than Kerr.

It all depends on your priorities and what you want.
 
The reality is that Kerr is a much better midfielder than Didak and Didak is a much better forward than Kerr.

It all depends on your priorities and what you want.

Yep that's pretty much it isn't it.

If you want to complicate it a little bit more, Didak is more capable of having an impact in Kerr's position but Kerr's position is more important to winning games.

If it was a straight swap, without rose colored glasses I would take it purely and simply because a top quality midfielder will win you more games then a top quality HFF. That is the reason that guys like Gary Ablett end up in the midfield. That is the reason I hope so badly that Thomas turns out to be a midfielder and not a flanker. That is the reason we are trying Didak in the midfield.
 
"Using Didak in order to get Kerr to the club will improve our midfield but I suspect that it will be only marginal."

^

Exactly. It might slightly strengthen our midfield, but we lose a bit of flair up forward.
Added to the fact WCE will probably want some sort of sweetener, it really wouldn't benefit us at all.
 
"Using Didak in order to get Kerr to the club will improve our midfield but I suspect that it will be only marginal."

^

Exactly. It might slightly strengthen our midfield, but we lose a bit of flair up forward.
Added to the fact WCE will probably want some sort of sweetener, it really wouldn't benefit us at all.

We have foward line fliar and flankers in abundance. We lack line breaking, ball winning skillful all round mids. It will be huge improvement to an obvious deficency. The improvement between the players maybe non existant but it is sacrificing a strength to build on a weakness. As I will continue to say in all these discussions Midfield >>>>>>>> then any other position on the ground. Flanks are probably the least important. Geez Geelong had Byrnes playing on a foward flank most of last year. Wce had a fairly shitful foward line. Our foward line - Didak would still include the likes of Medders, Davis, Thomas. Other guys like Shazza, Dick and Cox. Plenty of flair there
 
I think you are all comparing apples to oranges.

Didak has only been used in a Kerr role because of our deficiencies in the midfield, as has Medhurst to a fair extent.

If you are going to get Kerr to shore up our midfield then use the players he will replace and draft picks to get him....although I would prefer Cousins....or both.
I would like to see Didak and Medhurst playing their actual roles next season up forward. That is where they both have the most impact.

Look to who is not doing it for us in the midfield in their role.
 
Also, just one thing in favour for Kerr....


IS THAT HE IS TWICE THE PLAYER DIDAK IS!!!

That was a hilarious read though G.O.B. Cheers mate.


kerr is a gun..... but, obviously, you've never watched didak play.. pound for pound id say didak is slightly ahead.. based on the fact that didak can turn and win games in 3 or 4 minutes of footy... id keep dids over kerr any day.. kerr still needs to show the world he can perform for a whole season without judd and cousins...
 

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In my view, Kerr is clearly better than Didak -- and I think 90% of supporters with no affiliation to either side would agree. I'd love Kerr at Collingwood, but suspect it's gonna cost us too much.
 
I had a dream last night that we traded Didak to West Coast, but not for Kerr, for pick 2. We picked up Rich.

I would hate to lose Didak, but I have to say that's a deal I'd be content to do if one was necessary. Just a dream though, WC wouldn't let pick 2 go.
 
Kerr by a long way, and that's without considering our strengths/deficiencies.

I have to say though, my biggest concern about Kerr would be how he fits into MM's gameplan. He's poor overhead, prefers to run through the guts, and is much better by hand than foot. Is Malthouse really going to change his century-old gameplan to suit one player?

Look to who is not doing it for us in the midfield in their role.

O'Bree for Kerr?
 
I think you are all comparing apples to oranges.

Didak has only been used in a Kerr role because of our deficiencies in the midfield, as has Medhurst to a fair extent.

If you are going to get Kerr to shore up our midfield then use the players he will replace and draft picks to get him....although I would prefer Cousins....or both.
I would like to see Didak and Medhurst playing their actual roles next season up forward. That is where they both have the most impact.

Look to who is not doing it for us in the midfield in their role.

The players letting us down in that role are coming towards the end of their career and not good enough and that is what puts us in the position we are in now. O'Bree being the perfect example. You can not question his effort and value but he is clearly coming towards the end and so flawed that he has no value. We haven't tried the other alternatives to know whether they are good enough i.e Stanley or Cook and hence they have little to no trade value too.
 
Both are super players and though different in their attributes and how they play it is a real tight call, i think however that Kerr gets the nod for one reason, He gets in and gets his own footy week in week out, if we were to swap him for Didak outright you couldnt be too upset as Kerr is the sort of player we desperatly lack and this is a hard cold business gotta give something to get something in footy and we may just have to do that unfortunatly.
 
The players letting us down in that role are coming towards the end of their career and not good enough and that is what puts us in the position we are in now. O'Bree being the perfect example. You can not question his effort and value but he is clearly coming towards the end and so flawed that he has no value. We haven't tried the other alternatives to know whether they are good enough i.e Stanley or Cook and hence they have little to no trade value too.

I agree this is why you would have to sweeten the deal with draft picks.
I think we have a pretty full dance card as far as good young players go.
Those who the club feel are not going to make will no doubt go and could be added to the mix re: Kerr/Cousins.

I am afraid if we trade Didak we are going to spend the 4 years trying to trade for a replacement....

Get Kerr and or Cousins by all means...but not at any cost...we are only a bees dick away with what we have on the paddock right now.
Add our injured and suspended to this team and give them another pre-season and we are looking a far better side than the ladder would suggest.
 

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It's like comparing apples to pears....


One's hard at it and the other is soft.

One's inside the other's completely outside.

One's neat by foot the other makes the ball talk.

One's a midfielder the other's a HFF.

Both are matchwinners.

Does Collingwood need an elite inside midfielder or elite HFF?
 
yeah great thread, like the answer wasn't going to be biased on the Magpies board. Over 95% of all non collingwood people would pick Kerr in a heart beat.
 
I think you are all comparing apples to oranges.
Didak has only been used in a Kerr role because of our deficiencies in the midfield, as has Medhurst to a fair extent.

If you are going to get Kerr to shore up our midfield then use the players he will replace and draft picks to get him....although I would prefer Cousins....or both.
I would like to see Didak and Medhurst playing their actual roles next season up forward. That is where they both have the most impact.

Look to who is not doing it for us in the midfield in their role.


As I said on another similar thread, I think we should explore options to get Kerr that don't involve the loss of Didak. You can no more compare these two than Cloke and Dean Cox. A midfield rotation that has Kerr, Cousins, Thomas, Pendlebury, Didak, Davis and Clarke is still my greatest preferrence.
 
Didak easily


has never played second fiddle to anyone.


takes a top tag every week.


can win a game off his own boot or turn a side upside down.

skills way above Kerr's

closest thing to Daicos

Didak's good to watch on his day but ......closest thing to Daicos???
Were you actually above the age of 6 when he was playing? You've either bumped your head recently or you're getting him mixed up with BERTRAND Daicos who played 2 games on the bench for the East Smithfield under 15's.
Sure didak is a fantastic instinctive player but the Magician was a step above that. He knew where the ball was going to be and what he was going to do with it before it got there.
You sure you're not trying to boost this guys market price?
 
I agree this is why you would have to sweeten the deal with draft picks.
I think we have a pretty full dance card as far as good young players go.
Those who the club feel are not going to make will no doubt go and could be added to the mix re: Kerr/Cousins.

I am afraid if we trade Didak we are going to spend the 4 years trying to trade for a replacement....

Get Kerr and or Cousins by all means...but not at any cost...we are only a bees dick away with what we have on the paddock right now.
Add our injured and suspended to this team and give them another pre-season and we are looking a far better side than the ladder would suggest.

Dead right couldn't agree more!!!
 

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