Dimma's Draft Wishlist

[Bojangles17]

who does this bennell kid play like, does he avg > touches a game, and is he ~80kg

Id be going for gaff over this kid every day of the week

 

[Heisenberg_]

who does this bennell kid play like, does he avg > touches a game, and is he ~80kg

Id be going for gaff over this kid every day of the week

Bo, Gaff isn't even close to Bennell.
I am glad you have absolutly nothing to do with our recruiting team if that's the case.
He is already dominating against men in the WAFL.
Then against his peers in the carnival a couple of weeks ago he gets the ball 30+ times and kicks 6 goals in a side that dominates. You can get outside receivers like Gaff anywhere in the draft every year, but not guys the quality of Bennell.

 

[Toadvine]

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[Calcium Man]

who does this bennell kid play like, does he avg > touches a game, and is he ~80kg

Id be going for gaff over this kid every day of the week

Bennel easy Bo. He racks them up kicked 6 goals against SA in a side that got pumped. Already playing WAFL and doing well.

Gaff I've heard is more of an accumaltor put his kick is average and so is his pace.

Don't think we will get Bennell this unless Darling starts taking teams apart or someone else comes from nowhere. Outside chance at Day who by all reports does not wanna go north. Maybe GC will not risk him switching to Baseball if they pick him. So it looks like Darling for us.

 

[kronic]

Anyone else think we need another defender?

It's an interesting topic, because people argue the zone defense (which doesn't require a highly skilled player), then you have the one on one contested footy, where players like Brian Lake shine. Mind you Brian Lake can swing forward, would be nice to have that? Perhaps Dimma is grooming Astbury to this role?

 

[dorianyates]

If Richmond were to go best available then their first pick should be Bennel. a little risky if he can't settle in Melbourne but the club should be prepared and back itself in to be able to keep him in the long term. If taken, then get Darling.
1) Bennel, Darling, Day,
Nb/ Is Gaff good enough to play HB and be that beautiful kick coming out of defence? If he is then Deledio could be played much higher and be that goal kicking outside mid Richmond needs.
2) Would love the Tigers to trade and get Veszpremi if possible. Another mid who has goal scoring power. If not Veszpremi then an outside mid with really good kicking skills.
3) This should be pick 27 or 28 so I would choose a FB option. Someone like Merret or Carlisle from Port - Big bodied and explosive off the mark.
4) Get Beau Dowler. A bargain if Richmond can get him this cheap. Play him at FF or CHF next year and allow Griffiths time to develop away from the spotlight and pressure. Can never have too many KPF options.

Pick 4 for the Tigers should be out of Bennel and Darling as Day will probably go earlier. Any of these can fill a need.

 

[CoggaRules]

I'm hoping dimma's memo to FJ would read something like this

Pick 1 Inside mid, can run all day, knocks up 25-30 possies at will with precision passing 80%+ efficiency Min 181cm 79KG

Pick 2 Goalkicking Freak, kicks them from anywhere, left or right, can turn a gamer on it's head in a few minutes Min 182cm 81KG

Pick 3 Ruckman cum forward, has a leap like sergio bubka, has safer mits than Iron gloves and can kick

Pick 4 Speedy link player, can run like the wind but wins plenty of footy, Junior averages >25 a game with 80% effic Min 181 81KG

Pick 5 A speculative tall from a 2nd or 3 tier league...a born FF has kicked 120 or more 195+ 90KG+.....must be quick , one touch mark worth a second chance

I expect we'll upgrade a couple of rookies so 5 selections will prob see us out. and this will be a step forward from TW's

speedy outside player, couldnt care if they never touched it Min 184cm 65KG

Bwaahaaaahaaaa....gee dude, never would have thunk it...
So you really believe that Damien would want all that yeah? I mean, and i will take a real wild guess here, its so wild it is completely ridiculous, but I would be having a couple of dollars on the FACT that 17 other coachs' wishlist would be a photocopy of your stupid "STATE THE ****ING OBVIOUS" wish list.

 

[bigstyletiger]

Pick 1: Best Available

Pick 2: Best Available

Pick 3: Best Available

Pick 4: Best Available

Picks 5-? Then start to assess on a team needs basis

If you take Geelong as the model as what we're trying to achieve, we don't have enough depth in any position to be getting cute with our early selections (the few we have) and not taking the best available talent.

There was talk that we should have taken Butcher over Martin last year because of he better suited a perceived need we had. Not saying Buther won't be a good player, but can you imagine the stick we'd be copping if Martin was running around in a Freo jumper at the moment??

Its gonna be tough enough getting decent talent out of the next few drafts as it is with our picks. We can't take any risks early on with what is already a comprimised talent pool.

I think this is a good post. Very intersting reference to the concept of the 'percieved need'. However the fact that many posters called for more tall forwards last year in the draft was vindicated by our drafting.

pick 19 - Griffiths
pick 35 - Astbury
rookie draft - Westhoff

This suggests that the RFC recruiters and list managers are likely to target specific needs in the draft but will not do so at the expense of best available in the first round.

Going on last years draft and the fact that Hardwick has come from Hawthorn, we will most likely target needs after the first pick.

Right now our only real strenght is inside mids and potentially we also have a really strong tall forward line so I would make neither of these two categories a priority.

Unfortunately it looks as though the best players at pick 4 will most likely fit into those categories.

Andrew Gaff is a strong candidate at our pick - he has been compared to Luke Power. From what I have read and seen he can both win the contested possession as well as use hard running power and knowledge of where to run to find plenty of the footy. Doesn't have elite disposal though, merely solid. And from what I have seen is not an elite decision maker. Could be a cross between Power and Dane Swan. Big draw back is not a precision kick and not overly quick. A big plus for Gaff though is the fact that he was at times a dominant midfielder in last years championships as a bottom age player. Is a left footer.

Jack Darling will most likely slip through as well after being touted as a pick1/2 last year when he was the most dominant tall forward in the under 18 champs. Big draw backs are height and apparently ability below the knees. Last year people were raving about him but I have had a look on the west coast board and they aren't too keen on him. Is only 190cm and has been for quite some time. Could be a handy third tall or lead up half forward. Is apparently quite quick and sets up a lot of goals in the under 18's. Is also playing WAFL where he is focussing on defensive pressure. Had a limitted preseason apparently and so may not be at his best during this carnival. Unfortunate as he may have forced Gold Coast into taking him. Is very keen to go to the Gold Coast and join his mates.

Luke Parker is one I would consider. Although I haven't seen him. He sounds like he could be a bit of a Bartel. Has elite disposal, hits the scoreboard kicking 36 goals for Dandenong last year and pipped Scully and Bastinac for the Stingrays B&F last year - although played more games. Can find plenty of the footy althought not as much as Gaff who really spreads and covers the ground. Again no great pace.

At this stage it looks like Swallow, Bennell and Day are a lock for top 3 so realistically the above guys are who we are picking from unless somebody makes a jump. Green from Tassie would if he had better disposal I would think.

In regards to small backmen I think Dea is earmarked for this possie long term. Would look for another one later on in the draft however.

At our 2nd/3rd/4th picks I would target 1. outside mid 1. tall backman with good closing speed 3. a developing ruckman if possible.

As for trading I think if the right deal can be made go for it but the chances of us picking up guys like Vespremi, Jacobs etc is minimal. Vespremi is under contract and was a first round pick who has shown a bit when he has got on the park. Jacobs will most likely stay as Hampson will go to the GC.

 

[happy_punter]

you're all idiots and dreamers

 

[tugga]

The fact that Dimma has stated they will target outside mids is an indictment on Tambling who should already be fulfilling that role by now.

 

[TigerTime88]

I think Bigstyletiger was spot on.

If we go a midfielder just from vision and what I have heard Parker sounds like he is the one. Gaff looks pretty runty as well.

Darling could be a goer purely because of his "talent".

Dea will be our small backman even though he is 185cm or something. The kid is quick, runs a 2.8 for 20m.

Outside mids with the first 3 picks...

 

[Madison]

I would think Darling would be a great inclusion as a third tall with Jack and Griff. Of all this talk of JR being a third tall, he's proving at the moment he is KP.

I wouldn't target an outside mid with the first pick, I would go best available (as is always the case with a high pick), and only go an outside player if there is a standout (like Bennell).

Much easier to pick up outside recievers with good skills later in the draft.

I would also pick up a VFL ruckman with our last pick.

Other than that, we have problems all over the ground, so I would just draft everything.

 

[coke_zero]

E.G rance to Hawks for their first pick then trade that along with our third pick for Macintosh.

No chance we will get that done. Rance actually played well today for coburg, and when he has been playing for richmond this year it was in the forward line.

 

[Bojangles17]

Bwaahaaaahaaaa....gee dude, never would have thunk it...
So you really believe that Damien would want all that yeah? I mean, and i will take a real wild guess here, its so wild it is completely ridiculous, but I would be having a couple of dollars on the FACT that 17 other coachs' wishlist would be a photocopy of your stupid "STATE THE ****ING OBVIOUS" wish list.

aggh BS coggs, cards will shift in the deck aligned with needs, we are stockpiling talls, therein first couple of picks..should be mid ....that wont be on the shopping list of ea damn club ffs

 

[JimmyRecard]

No chance we will get that done. Rance actually played well today for coburg, and when he has been playing for richmond this year it was in the forward line.

"no chance" big words considering they made a play at rance two years ago

 

[coke_zero]

"no chance" big words considering they made a play at rance two years ago

Unless if they really really rate Rance or he improves and shows he is a gun player they will not offer there first pick for him and our 3rd which will be in the 40's.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

1st pick:
I feel with our first pick we should go best available mid or day but he seems to be heading to the gold coast.

2nd pick:
Again best available mid.

3rd pick:
A guy with x factor or kpp

4th pick:
A mature recruit or someone that has slid due to some reason.

 

[sante]

Dimma has already stated that the weak link of our team is the lack of outside midfielders. Surely thats our priority.

 

[santa claws]

Dimma has already stated that the weak link of our team is the lack of outside midfielders. Surely thats our priority.

geez i hope not. not with early picks anyway. well rounded players are the priority with pick 4.

for those who think we have ample quality ball winning mostly inside mids. or extractors if you like.
i can name two foley and martin. you can add tuck but hes very ordinary in other areas of his game plus hes what 29 and not a part of the long term.
give me foley and martin over any supposed purely outside mid anyday. they are just as damaging than most outside players anyway. ffs i hope we target well rounded big bodied mids if we go after one at 4.or at least a mid who can go get his own ball when theres a need to.
you dont target outside players who cant win the ball with pick 4 no matter the footskills. their form is just too reliant on others in the team.

 

[peggles]

Dimma has already stated that the weak link of our team is the lack of outside midfielders. Surely thats our priority.

well, like many have said, with an early pick, we will pick best available rather than simply filling a priority, except when the best available does fill the hole. since the top players aren't outside mids except for bennell, i'd say we wouldn't be picking one with our first pick. more likley with our later picks.

 

[Toadvine]

Spread and overlap are what we lack and I agree we can address this need with the picks after the first round.

I think Parker would be our best option as SC has said he can find his own ball stand up in traffic is damaging when in possession and can kick a goal.

Adding him to our on ball unit would allow Foley Martin and Cotchin to utilise their outside skills more often which would benefit our team being able to rotate our players both inside and out with great effect.

 

[Rustof]

geez i hope not. not with early picks anyway. well rounded players are the priority with pick 4.

for those who think we have ample quality ball winning mostly inside mids. or extractors if you like.
i can name two foley and martin. you can add tuck but hes very ordinary in other areas of his game plus hes what 29 and not a part of the long term.
give me foley and martin over any supposed purely outside mid anyday. they are just as damaging than most outside players anyway. ffs i hope we target well rounded big bodied mids if we go after one at 4.or at least a mid who can go get his own ball when theres a need to.
you dont target outside players who cant win the ball with pick 4 no matter the footskills. their form is just too reliant on others in the team.

Yea that Cotchin kid is a spud, can't get a clearance if his life depended on it.

 

[Rayzorwire]

Yea that Cotchin kid is a spud, can't get a clearance if his life depended on it.

Yeah Rustof, slack bastard is only ranked 8th in the league for clearances with 5.9 a game, Jackson also doing very poorly, ranked equal 15th (with Montagna) in the league with 5.0 a game while regularly playing as a tagger. Tuck and Martin are 21st and 23rd respectively in the league.

It's pretty obvious we need more out of our 3rd year juniors and really have to start looking for a hardman tagger who can hurt the opposition going the other way.

Santa does make a good point though, it's better to have mids who can win the ball in their own right and kick well, rather than targeting players who just kick well.

Danny Meyer kicked well, still does.

 

[coke_zero]

Yeah Rustof, slack bastard is only ranked 8th in the league for clearances with 5.9 a game, Jackson also doing very poorly, ranked equal 15th (with Montagna) in the league with 5.0 a game while regularly playing as a tagger. Tuck and Martin are 21st and 23rd respectively in the league.

It's pretty obvious we need more out of our 3rd year juniors and really have to start looking for a hardman tagger who can hurt the opposition going the other way.

Santa does make a good point though, it's better to have mids who can win the ball in their own right and kick well, rather than targeting players who just kick well.

Danny Meyer kicked well, still does.

I think he was wondering why he wasnt in the sentence with Foley and Martin.

 

[Parquet Court]

Yeah Rustof, slack bastard is only ranked 8th in the league for clearances with 5.9 a game, Jackson also doing very poorly, ranked equal 15th (with Montagna) in the league with 5.0 a game while regularly playing as a tagger. Tuck and Martin are 21st and 23rd respectively in the league.

It's pretty obvious we need more out of our 3rd year juniors and really have to start looking for a hardman tagger who can hurt the opposition going the other way.

Santa does make a good point though, it's better to have mids who can win the ball in their own right and kick well, rather than targeting players who just kick well.

Danny Meyer kicked well, still does.

Surely the tigers have learnt their lesson re: outside mids/ hbs with the supposed silky skills i.e: mcmuffin, tambling, JON etc: that these players are not necessarily the go to so early in the draft.

Sure these types of players complement a good team, but a good team is not what we possess atm. IMO i think it is better that once the tiges can make a trade or target a player like that in the draft and hopefuly not get a dud ie: Mcmuffin

I am from Perth and know a few players in the 18's atm and then opinion of bennell is that he is a bit of a strange cat and 'hog'. Havent heard that word used since my auskick days but thats the go with him, "I" before team. I hope we dont waste 4 on him