Dougie does well

[bigman]

Another good performance from the Black Douglas this week.

The pressure he is placing on other midfielders is increasing.

He can mark, (and for a player of his size he takes an extra-ordianary number of hangars) he is clean, quite quick partiuarly with mind and he is composed.

if he continues like this he will play in 2006 - and more games than many on this board might think.

Remember - Paul Kelly and Mark Bickley. He has many of the same attributes and qualities.

This boy could be as good. (big call I know).

A future leader!!!!

 

[macca23]

Another good performance from the Black Douglas this week.

The pressure he is placing on other midfielders is increasing.

He can mark, (and for a player of his size he takes an extra-ordianary number of hangars) he is clean, quite quick partiuarly with mind and he is composed.

if he continues like this he will play in 2006 - and more games than many on this board might think.

Remember - Paul Kelly and Mark Bickley. He has many of the same attributes and qualities.

This boy could be as good. (big call I know).

A future leader!!!!

That is a big call - very big.

But I'll go along with your call, because this kid has got special qualities.

 

[neddy36]

His foot skills a impressed me to a certain degree. Chips the ball nicely..

Although that #26 guernsey looked very loose on him in the Melbourne game...

 

[Alex99]

Another good performance from the Black Douglas this week.

The pressure he is placing on other midfielders is increasing.

He can mark, (and for a player of his size he takes an extra-ordianary number of hangars) he is clean, quite quick partiuarly with mind and he is composed.

if he continues like this he will play in 2006 - and more games than many on this board might think.Remember - Paul Kelly and Mark Bickley. He has many of the same attributes and qualities.

This boy could be as good. (big call I know).

A future leader!!!!

If his form at Glenelg is constant he could quite easily get a game, but the question has to be asked will he? Last season Fergus Watts was screaming out to be picked and his form was also demanding he get a game but as we know he didn’t get the opportunity.

At the moment he has to get in front of Hayden Skipworth, Michael Doughty, Kris Massie, Luke Jericho (all out of the first side this week) who would all be selected to play on the ball or a flank at the moment. He would have to show some fantastic form to jump ahead of a few just yet. I don’t disagree with you but the earliest I think we will see Douglas is 2007 (and over pre season he will almost be a walk up start next yea ALA Knights)

 

[bigman]

If his form at Glenelg is constant he could quite easily get a game, but the question has to be asked will he? Last season Fergus Watts was screaming out to be picked and his form was also demanding he get a game but as we know he didn’t get the opportunity.

At the moment he has to get in front of Hayden Skipworth, Michael Doughty, Kris Massie, Luke Jericho (all out of the first side this week) who would all be selected to play on the ball or a flank at the moment. He would have to show some fantastic form to jump ahead of a few just yet. I don’t disagree with you but the earliest I think we will see Douglas is 2007 (and over pre season he will almost be a walk up start next yea ALA Knights)

The future will telleth Crow98 but I see many good things ahead for this young man .

 

[rooboy]

I have only seen Douglas play once, but from what I saw I reckon we've got a beauty. As well as Bode did on Monday, I personally think his spot is in jeopardy to Douglas.
Douglas looked quicker, surer kick, and very good with his hands.
He could be very handy in a forward pocket.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I have only seen Douglas play once, but from what I saw I reckon we've got a beauty. As well as Bode did on Monday, I personally think his spot is in jeopardy to Douglas.
Douglas looked quicker, surer kick, and very good with his hands.
He could be very handy in a forward pocket.

His conversion rate isn't much better than Bode's. Douglas kicked 1.5 on the weekend

 

[Fudd]

His conversion rate isn't much better than Bode's. Douglas kicked 1.5 on the weekend

And i doubt at this stage that Douglas can replicate Bodeys mongrel at the bottom of the pack, and his work rate. Say what you will about his kicking (even tho he set up atleast a couple of roos goals), the guys works his a$$ off and doesnt have any regard for his own safety.

 

[bigman]

His conversion rate isn't much better than Bode's. Douglas kicked 1.5 on the weekend

Stiffmeister, this tally would be a one off.

Keep the faith!!!

Bode is 26 Douglas is 18 we need to keep this in mind. Who has the most upside?

Lets not throw Bode out yet - but beware the pressure will build for the Black Douglas as the year goes on.

On a sadder note it appears that Skippy is injured again - out for two weeks according to the Herald Sun.

If Vince was in any sort of danger from a player outside of the sqaud i would suggest it has now passed for this week.

 

[Alex99]

Stiffmeister, this tally would be a one off.

Keep the faith!!!

Bode is 26 Douglas is 18 we need to keep this in mind. Who has the most upside?

Lets not throw Bode out yet - but beware the pressure will build for the Black Douglas as the year goes on.

On a sadder note it appears that Skippy is injured again - out for two weeks according to the Herald Sun.

If Vince was in any sort of danger from a player outside of the sqaud i would suggest it has now passed for this week.

Did you get that injury report from this HS source?

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/results/0,8058,aflInjuries,00.html

I wouldn’t read anything into that and simply put it down to a out of date report (as both Hinge and Skipworth played on the weekend) as if he did injure his ankle on Saturday I sure we would have heard about it, especially if he out for 2 weeks.

 

[macca23]

Did you get that injury report from this HS source?

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/results/0,8058,aflInjuries,00.html

I wouldn’t read anything into that and simply put it down to a out of date report (as both Hinge and Skipworth played on the weekend) as if he did injure his ankle on Saturday I sure we would have heard about it, especially if he out for 2 weeks.

Correct weight.

That is an outdated list.

Bode isn't on the injury list published in the 'tiser today - on the contrary he is being promoted as the only possible change to our team against the WCE.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Stiffmeister, this tally would be a one off.

Keep the faith!!!

Bode is 26 Douglas is 18 we need to keep this in mind. Who has the most upside?

Lets not throw Bode out yet - but beware the pressure will build for the Black Douglas as the year goes on.

On a sadder note it appears that Skippy is injured again - out for two weeks according to the Herald Sun.

If Vince was in any sort of danger from a player outside of the sqaud i would suggest it has now passed for this week.

I never argued about the upside of the 2 players or did I ever say that the pressure is not on Bode.

I am just sick and tired of this myth amonst supporters that player A is 26 and player B is 18 so player B should get a game. Its ridicilous criteria that makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Fact is we need a player that can do the sort of things that Bode does. Douglas cannot do those things on consistent basis just yet. Will he be able to do them in a couple of years? Most probably he could but not at this stage.

Douglas is a very exciting prospect and we all have the right to be excited of what the future holds with this lad BUT please lets keep it in perspective. He is not ready to be a good AFL player week in week out. Bod certainly has his short comings BUT IMHO, the good outweight the bad and thats all that matters at this stage. Not whether or not he is young enough.

If Bode continues to play well and stays injury free then Douglas WILL NOT replace him this year. Thats just a simple fact.

 

[macca23]

Douglas is a very exciting prospect and we all have the right to be excited of what the future holds with this lad BUT please lets keep it in perspective. He is not ready to be a good AFL player week in week out. Bod certainly has his short comings BUT IMHO, the good outweight the bad and thats all that matters at this stage. Not whether or not he is young enough.

If Bode continues to play well and stays injury free then Douglas WILL NOT replace him this year. Thats just a simple fact.

I'm as big a Douglas fan as there is going around, but you're right of course Stiffy. Douglas is a young lad learning the game against men while Bode is an experienced campaigner.

Yes, Douglas has all the upside, and will be a beauty for us - but not just yet.

We're not where Hawthorn were last year, where they had no chance of winning a flag, so they play the youngsters to fast track them, while having a lousy season to prepare for the long term.

Douglas will eventually earn his spot, but he won't and shouldn't be just given it.

 

[bigman]

I never argued about the upside of the 2 players or did I ever say that the pressure is not on Bode.

I am just sick and tired of this myth amonst supporters that player A is 26 and player B is 18 so player B should get a game. Its ridicilous criteria that makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

Fact is we need a player that can do the sort of things that Bode does. Douglas cannot do those things on consistent basis just yet. Will he be able to do them in a couple of years? Most probably he could but not at this stage.

Douglas is a very exciting prospect and we all have the right to be excited of what the future holds with this lad BUT please lets keep it in perspective. He is not ready to be a good AFL player week in week out. Bod certainly has his short comings BUT IMHO, the good outweight the bad and thats all that matters at this stage. Not whether or not he is young enough.

If Bode continues to play well and stays injury free then Douglas WILL NOT replace him this year. Thats just a simple fact.

Stiffy, i am not arguing that Douglas should get a game because he is 18.

if you look at most of the sides that win GF they have strong experienced bodies for the most part.

What I am saying is that 1-5 from an 18 year old is less of a problem than for a 26-27 year old.

Bodes problem is his ball drop and overall technique. At 26-27 it is unlikely to improve much, but for Douglas there is more time and upside.

I will be happy if Bode can continue to work on his weaknesses - kicking for goal, hitting targets, keeping his feet etc. because his crumbing in the forward line and in and under approach is an asset.

All I am saying is that the pressure is on - from Skippy in particular and players like Douglas.

I like the latter because he has the technique, skills and class which you need to be a consistent player at AFL level.

Lets see what happens at year's end and we can then see who is right on this one.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Anyone get the Crows magazine yesterday? If so check out the picture of all the newbies together and god does Douglas look like a matchstick compared to the rest of them!

 

[macca23]

All I am saying is that the pressure is on - from Skippy in particular and players like Douglas.

I like the latter because he has the technique, skills and class which you need to be a consistent player at AFL level.Lets see what happens at year's end and we can then see who is right on this one.

Oh, you're dead right about that. He'll be a real good'un for us - but not until next year when he has developed somewaht more physically.

He might play a cameo role some time this year, but next year onwards will see this boy as a regular in the tri-colours. As someone else said elsewhere - along the same lines as Knights.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I never argued about the upside of the 2 players or did I ever say that the pressure is not on Bode.

I am just sick and tired of this myth amonst supporters that player A is 26 and player B is 18 so player B should get a game. Its ridicilous criteria that makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

What that reference is to Stiffy is that at 26 his bad habits are unlikely to correctable wheras at 18 we can correct bad habits and mould him to our req - see VB from outside to inside player

Fact is we need a player that can do the sort of things that Bode does. Douglas cannot do those things on consistent basis just yet.

your not seriously suggesting Bode is consistent

Douglas is a very exciting prospect and we all have the right to be excited of what the future holds with this lad BUT please lets keep it in perspective. He is not ready to be a good AFL player week in week out. Bod certainly has his short comings BUT IMHO, the good outweight the bad and thats all that matters at this stage. Not whether or not he is young enough.

I agree that Bode currently has the edge on Douglas and Porplyzia mainly through having an AFL hardened body and experience but Bodes lack of consistency and turnovers may provide the opportunity in the second half of the season.

If Bode continues to play well and stays injury free then Douglas WILL NOT replace him this year. Thats just a simple fact.

That's agreed but track record would suggest improbable

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I'm as big a Douglas fan as there is going around, but you're right of course Stiffy. Douglas is a young lad learning the game against men while Bode is an experienced campaigner.

Yes, Douglas has all the upside, and will be a beauty for us - but not just yet.

We're not where Hawthorn were last year, where they had no chance of winning a flag, so they play the youngsters to fast track them, while having a lousy season to prepare for the long term.

Douglas will eventually earn his spot, but he won't and shouldn't be just given it.

Yes experienced in age but not games

And Craig will not give anyone games - unless we are injury stricken

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Oh, you're dead right about that. He'll be a real good'un for us - but not until next year when he has developed somewaht more physically.

He might play a cameo role some time this year, but next year onwards will see this boy as a regular in the tri-colours. As someone else said elsewhere - along the same lines as Knights.

Get off it Macca - should be compared to Vince - you sure your not related to Knights

 

[Crow-mo]

I am just sick and tired of this myth amonst supporters that player A is 26 and player B is 18 so player B should get a game. Its ridicilous criteria that makes absolutely no sense what so ever.

indeed

 

[Crow-mo]

WW,

there are Port supporters who like our players more than you

 

[WaynesWorld19]

WW,

there are Port supporters who like our players more than you

Now.. now... CM

Well they do spend more time on our board than there own......but seriously I like all our players...just some more than others


And someone has to fall by the wayside to let the pfieffers, Douglas's, Vinces, Meeson and Maric into the side.

It's the system

 

[macca23]

Get off it Macca - should be compared to Vince - you sure your not related to Knights

No, but I'd be bloody proud to be!!

He's a fine young man and a gun footballer in the making.

He's a gem!!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

No, but I'd be bloody proud to be!!

He's a fine young man and a gun footballer in the making.

He's a gem!!

He's like Vince in that he has to get an extra yard of pace...but I thought Kane Johnson was slow also in his first year and look at him....

What I liked about Knights game on Monday was with each passing qtr as he became more used to the games pace he just kept getting better and he has a mature head on his shoulder for one so young.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Stiffy, i am not arguing that Douglas should get a game because he is 18.

if you look at most of the sides that win GF they have strong experienced bodies for the most part.

What I am saying is that 1-5 from an 18 year old is less of a problem than for a 26-27 year old.

Bodes problem is his ball drop and overall technique. At 26-27 it is unlikely to improve much, but for Douglas there is more time and upside.

I will be happy if Bode can continue to work on his weaknesses - kicking for goal, hitting targets, keeping his feet etc. because his crumbing in the forward line and in and under approach is an asset.

All I am saying is that the pressure is on - from Skippy in particular and players like Douglas.

I like the latter because he has the technique, skills and class which you need to be a consistent player at AFL level.

Lets see what happens at year's end and we can then see who is right on this one.

Again you are not listening. Its just not registering with you.

I never said that Douglas will not over-take Bode and push him out of the rotation. In fact I would be bitterly disappointed if he doesn't. All I am saying is that Douglas WILL NOT take Bode's spot THIS year. I will say it again, if Bode continues his from he has shown to date this year and he remains injury free (huge if this), he WILL play every game this year and Douglas nor Skippy will take his spot in the side.