Rumour Draft Rumours 2024 - No rumours allowed

[THE_GUN]

In his imaginary world there is.

For all we know this could be the 2016 top end all over again.

1: McGrath
2: Taranto
3: Clugg
4: Ainsworth
5: Setterfield
6: SPS
7: Scrimshaw
8: Logue
9: Brodie
10: Bowes

Yep but 8 years on 80% still playing AFL

Thats why all draft picks are over rated

 

[Mostyn]

A top 4 that the Crows look like passing on at pick 4. Unless you're including Ashcroft in that top 4 then carry on.

What?

It's obviously Jagga, FOS, Lalor and Draper, with Langford a smokey.

You have to be deliberately obtuse to not agree with that

 

[Mostyn]

Is there ?
Cal has Langford at #3 Reid #5 Draper #8 and Smillie was #1 2 months ago
all we know is there is a top Tier of 6-8 and nothing more

No we don't.

Cal is just being obtuse.

He clearly doesn't care as much about foot speed and athleticism as every other footy watcher, because Langford and Reid are SLOW.

Every other talent forecast disagrees with him.

Smillie had a bad year and has found his level.

 

[LB2Snake]

by whom?

Numerous articles, posting on here, general musings......the vibe ...it's, the vibe

 

[Mostyn]

From GoTigers2015

The draft consensus ranking for October from rankings done by the AFL, ESPN, RMC, Herald Sun, The Age and Fox Footy.

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[LB2Snake]

LOL you really think Richmond would sign Dow & McIntosh who we could easily drop to the Rookie list
Blair Hartley is one of the best list managers around and would not compromise losing a pick with a rookie error

What's this based on mate? I didn't even know that was your list manager's name. Not saying it's not true, but there's a few pretty shrewd operators around at clubs like Cats, Hawks, Lions, possibly Pies who I would think would be close to the podium. Or you basing this off the past couple of weeks which has ben sensational. Planets aligned pretty well there though, but you have lost a fair bit of depth on paper too.

 

[LB2Snake]

Geez, people twisting themselves in knots to manufacture a scenario that suits their club's circumstance.

Like that great old racing saying, "Always back Self-Interest, at least you know it's trying!"

 

[bzparkes]

What's this based on mate? I didn't even know that was your list manager's name. Not saying it's not true, but there's a few pretty shrewd operators around at clubs like Cats, Hawks, Lions, possibly Pies who I would think would be close to the podium. Or you basing this off the past couple of weeks which has ben sensational. Planets aligned pretty well there though, but you have lost a fair bit of depth on paper too.

Mate, Richmond supporters thought Matt Clarke was their list manager until the draft.

I don't believe any of them ever heard of Blair Hartley before that.

 

[tigs2010]

What?

It's obviously Jagga, FOS, Lalor and Draper, with Langford a smokey.

You have to be deliberately obtuse to not agree with that

Oh man. There are rankings with Draper at 7, 8 & 10. Hardly a clear top 4. They may be the first 4 picked but it's certainly not beyond question.

 

[THE_GUN]

No we don't.

Cal is just being obtuse.

He clearly doesn't care as much about foot speed and athleticism as every other footy watcher, because Langford and Reid are SLOW.

Every other talent forecast disagrees with him.

Smillie had a bad year and has found his level.

Yeah ok , I'll take your word over Cal Twomey

what would he know anyway

 

[aussierulesrules]

He clearly doesn't care as much about foot speed and athleticism as every other footy watcher, because Langford and Reid are SLOW.

The preseason testing results posted by Souup would suggest otherwise re Reid:

Ashcroft
20m: 2.997
Vertical: 76cm
Agility: 8.708
Yo-yo: 760

Reid:
20m: 3.025
Vertical: 75cm
Agility: 8.390
Yo-yo: 1000

FOS
20m: 3.046
Vertical: 90cm
Agility: 8.117
Yo-yo: 1000

Travaglia
20m: 3.104
Vertical: 77cm
Agility: 8.452
Yo-yo: 920

Jagga Smith
20m: 2.990
Vertical: 75cm
Agility: 8.796
Yo-yo: 840

Smillie:
20m: 3.093
Vertical: 73cm
Agility: 8.501
Yo-yo: 720

Langford
20m: 3.213
Vertical: 72cm
Agility: 8.721
Yo-yo: 720

 

[TerryWallet]

As a neutral, and taking the tidbits that have come out thru The Hun and C4, i have attempted to work this thru. Club supporters involved should not look for their desired "big win" just that the 4 clubs are happy with desired positions that improve their wants, and what is achievable.

NM:
Out: 2 & F1
In: 6, 13, 18 & 24.

Rich:
Out: 6, 10, 18 & 24
In: 2, 15 & GWS F1

GWS:
Out: 15 & GWS F1
In: NM F1

Port:
Out: 13 & 29
In: 10 and some advantageous later pick or swap this year or next from whoever is driving this deal most.

Satisfies C4's rumour
Satisfies the Hun rumour which was Pick 2 and a F1 for 6&10
Satisfies Richmonds want for Pick 2 and maximise quality for their haul.
Satisfies Norths wish to split to Pick 6 and bring their build into this year.
Satisfies GWS want for an elite pick instead of teens
Explains the Port involvement and their apparent belief that a kid with a normal Top 3 CV will be their. Reid or Lindsay come to mind.

 

[Crow till I die]

Crows will be all over Jagga IMO...I think Blues take him anyway if this scenario plays out

I'd bleddy well hope so. Much more of a need than Langford who is like players we already have

 

[blaisee]

As a neutral, and taking the tidbits that have come out thru The Hun and C4, i have attempted to work this thru. Club supporters involved should not look for their desired "big win" just that the 4 clubs are happy with desired positions that improve their wants, and what is achievable.

NM:
Out: 2 & F1
In: 6, 13, 18 & 24.

Rich:
Out: 6, 10, 18 & 24
In: 2, 15 & GWS F1

GWS:
Out: 15 & GWS F1
In: NM F1

Port:
Out: 13 & 29
In: 10 and some advantageous later pick or swap this year or next from whoever is driving this deal most.

Satisfies C4's rumour
Satisfies the Hun rumour which was Pick 2 and a F1 for 6&10
Satisfies Richmonds want for Pick 2 and maximise quality for their haul.
Satisfies Norths wish to split to Pick 6 and bring their build into this year.
Satisfies GWS want for an elite pick instead of teens
Explains the Port involvement and their apparent belief that a kid with a normal Top 3 CV will be their. Reid or Lindsay come to mind.

6 is a no

 

[TerryWallet]

6 is a no

Not if you want 2 it's not. If not NM take Saints offer or keep 2.

If Tiges wanna keep 6 then they are out of the running for 2. Which is fine, if they choose that route.

 

[aussierulesrules]

As a neutral, and taking the tidbits that have come out thru The Hun and C4, i have attempted to work this thru. Club supporters involved should not look for their desired "big win" just that the 4 clubs are happy with desired positions that improve their wants, and what is achievable.

NM:
Out: 2 & F1
In: 6, 13, 18 & 24.

Rich:
Out: 6, 10, 18 & 24
In: 2, 15 & GWS F1

GWS:
Out: 15 & GWS F1
In: NM F1

Port:
Out: 13 & 29
In: 10 and some advantageous later pick or swap this year or next from whoever is driving this deal most.

Satisfies C4's rumour
Satisfies the Hun rumour which was Pick 2 and a F1 for 6&10
Satisfies Richmonds want for Pick 2 and maximise quality for their haul.
Satisfies Norths wish to split to Pick 6 and bring their build into this year.
Satisfies GWS want for an elite pick instead of teens
Explains the Port involvement and their apparent belief that a kid with a normal Top 3 CV will be there. Reid or Lindsay come to mind.

Age apparently reported the other day that Richmond don’t want to part with 6.

 

[blaisee]

Age apparently reported the other day that Richmond don’t want to part with 6.

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there it is

 

[TerryWallet]

Age apparently reported the other day that Richmond don’t want to part with 6.

View attachment 2155290

See my post above yours.

 

[LB2Snake]

Not if you want 2 it's not. If not NM take Saints offer or keep 2.

If Tiges wanna keep 6 then they are out of the running for 2. Which is fine, if they choose that route.

Good luck TerryWallet ....you are about to be inundated/bombarded with tiger supporters

 

[THE_GUN]

What's this based on mate? I didn't even know that was your list manager's name. Not saying it's not true, but there's a few pretty shrewd operators around at clubs like Cats, Hawks, Lions, possibly Pies who I would think would be close to the podium. Or you basing this off the past couple of weeks which has ben sensational. Planets aligned pretty well there though, but you have lost a fair bit of depth on paper too.

Blair has been at Richmond for 10 years and over seen the list management during the dynasty
Bringing to the club players like Prestia , caddy , nank , lynch that were integral to the success whilst managing massive contracts without a hitch.
He has always managed to get great value for out going players whilst paying fair price for incoming players.
So far in 10 years - Perfect record which means no major stuff ups

 

[blaisee]

Not if you want 2 it's not. If not NM take Saints offer or keep 2.

If Tiges wanna keep 6 then they are out of the running for 2. Which is fine, if they choose that route.

thanks Brady


we will take our chances

 

[Giant Strides]

Mate, Richmond supporters thought Matt Clarke was their list manager until the draft.

I don't believe any of them ever heard of Blair Hartley before that.

Don't think trade period changed their view that Clarke was Richmond's list manager!

 

[TerryWallet]

Good luck TerryWallet ....you are about to be inundated/bombarded with tiger supporters

That's ok. I've given my reasonings. I'm sure the one eyed brigade will step in. But that's ok and expected.

 

[tigs2010]

Don't think trade period changed their view that Clarke was Richmond's list manager!

 

[Makeshift Park]

there it is

So now you’re taking as the gospel truth the very same article widely ridiculed by Richmond fans, including yourself, for stating you were short a list spot.

Got it.