Draft Talk

[Kildonan]

Mojo's assessment:

23) Gavin Urquhart

Midfielder

181cms and 78kgs
18/5/88
Morningside (Qld)

Impressive for Qld at the U18s and was named All Australian there. Very hard and physical player who is at his best in contested situations. Seems to have a case of the ‘white line fevers’. Prone to losing the plot a little and can be niggled and lose concentration at times.
Will put his head over the ball and enjoys contested situations where he performs at his best. Still capable of running with the bell and linking up. Can turn the ball over in pressure situations a little too much but given time and space is a very good kick. Plenty of distance and penetration with his disposal.

Gets the ball, runs to dangerous positions and uses it. Hard and tough and can clear the ball from congestion. Effective rather than classy but can play all over the ground.
Not overly quick but has enough pace for it not to be a concern. Good strong tackler and a good inside midfield prospect. Has everything for that role and is not classy but hard and effective. Goodish skills and can play. Very good tank and runs all day.

Good size already at 181 and 80kgs and is physically developed. Used this to advantage in the U18 Championships last year. Not sure there is too much physical improvement in him left but do like what I have seen of him.

Interstingly he is listed as taller in a more recent article:

13 coming from Qld.

From aflqld

Record 13 Queenslanders invited to AFL Draft Camp

A record 13 Queenslanders have been invited to attend this year’s NAB AFL Draft Camp.

In a glowing tribute to the talent program in Queensland and confirmation that the Sunshine State is now a primary target for AFL talent scouts, this represents 18% of the total camp invitees of 72.

A further seven Queenslanders have been invited to undertake State screening, which is an adjunct to the camp at the AIS in Canberra from 3-6 October.

This comes after the 2006 Australia Post Scorpions, coached by former Brisbane Lions triple premiership ace Craig McRae, won the division two title undefeated at this year’s NAB Australian U18 Championships in Melbourne.

“It’s a phenomenal result and says we must be doing something right,” said AFL Queensland Talent Manager and former Sydney Swans champion Mark Browning. “It’s vindication of all the hard work done right through system not just this year but over recent years.

“From junior and senior clubs and development programs statewide, through to the Scorpions (U18s) and Young Scorpions (U16s), it’s a job well done,” he said.

Under the AFL system, each AFL club was asked to nominate 50 potential draftees. Any player who received five or more nominations was invited to the draft camp, where they will undergo an extensive testing program and be available for interview by each of the AFL clubs.

Anyone else nominated even once was invited to the State screening process, where they will be put through a similar testing program. The results will be added the data base from the camp and will be supplied to each club prior to the draft.

Heading the draft camp list are the 2006 Scorpions’ All-Australian trio of Ricky Petterd (Broadbeach), David Armitage (Morningside) and Daniel Dzufer (Zillmere), plus Brent Renouf (Southport), Gavin Urquhart (Morningside) and Albert Proud (Mt.Gravatt), who, like Petterd, Armitage and Dzufer were graduates of the AFL/AIS Academy program.

Dzufer, Haydn Kiel and Jesse White (Southport) will back up for a second year at the camp along with first-timers Kurt Tippett (Southport), Ben Warren (Zillmere), Chris Smith, Shaun Hampson and Gavin Grose (Mt.Gravatt).

The seven Queenslanders to undergo State screening will be Scott Clouston (Morningside), Simon Plummer (Mt.Gravatt), Brad Howard, Adam Mueller (Redland), Tauryan Zimmer (Southport), Rhys Magin (Noosa/Suncoast Lions) and Shaun Tapp (Western Magpies)

There is a good country flavor in the Queensland 20, with three players originally from regional areas – Armitage (Mackay), Urquhart (Rockhampton) and Howard (Toowoomba).

This is in addition to the Sunshine Coast trio of Dzufer, Smith and Magin, and seven Gold Coasters – Petterd, Renouf, Tippett, Kiel, Grose, White and Zimmer.

The 13 Queenslanders invited to the draft camp are:-

Name - Age - Ht (cm) - Wt (kg) - Club
David Armitage - 18 - 183 - 79 - Mackay/Morningside
Daniel Dzufer - 18 - 186 - 81 - Caloundra/Zillmere
Gavin Grose - 17 - 193 - 85 - Southport
Shaun Hampson - 18 - 201.5 - 93 - Mt.Gravatt
Haydn Kiel - 18 - 178 - 79 - Southport
Ricky Petterd - 18 - 184 - 77 - Broadbeach
Albert Proud - 17 - 179 - 80 - Mt.Gravatt
Brent Renouf - 18 - 199 - 92 - Southport
Chris Smith - 18 - 184 - 80 - Caloundra/Mt.Gravatt
Kurt Tippett - 19 - 199 - 98 - Southport
Gavin Urquhart - 18 - 186 - 78 - Rockhampton/Morningside
Ben Warren - 17 - 185 - 80 - Zillmere
Jesse White - 18 - 197 - 95 - Southport

The seven Queenslanders invited to undergo State screening are:-

Name - Age - Ht (cm) - Wt (kg) - Club
Scott Clouston - 19 - 191 - 84 - Morningside
Brad Howard - 18 - 183 - 72 - Toowoomba/Redland
Rhys Magin - 17 - 182 - 69 - Noosa/Suncoast Lions
Adam Mueller - 18 - 187 - 73 - Redland
Simon Plummer - 17 - 192 - 82 - Mt.Gravatt
Shaun Tapp - 17 - 194 - 91 - Western Magpies
Tauryan Zimmer - 17 - 186 - 82 - Southport

Sixteen of the 20 Queenslanders invited to either the camp or the State screening represented the State at the national U18 carnival this year. The other four were Warren, who was unfit at the time, Magin, who was an emergency, and Howard and Mueller, who wore Scorpions colors and were invited to State screening last year.

The 2006 representation is up on last year, when 10 players were invited to the camp and a further seven were chosen for State screening before six were ultimately drafted - Wayde Mills and Rhan Hooper (Brisbane Lions), Courtenay Dempsey and Austin Lucy (Essendon), Sam Gilbert (St.Kilda) and Michael West (Western Bulldogs).

 

[mark73]

TBH, and this is not a dig at St.Kilda, but when you look at the HT/WT of say a Hansen, thats why you really can't or shouldn't do what the Saints did with Koschitzke and throw him to the sharks straight away.Far too light and would get killed, or wind up with never ending recurring injury problems.Its also why its stupidity of fans thinking regardless of the natural ability these guys have, that it would be any type of quick fix or answer we've been looking for.They need time to develop physically.They are still boys.Again, I'm not slagging off St.Kilda because back then they prolly had little choice, but I do think to some degree that they are partly responsible for Koschitzke's brittleness by throwing him to the wolves from the word go in 2001.Developed a debilitating back injury and has hardly seen daylight since.

 

[Citizen Erased]

PICK 1.carlton- B.Gibbs
2.Essendon-Lachie Hansen,we need a tall running defender.
3.Kangaroos-Scott Gumbleton

 

[Kildonan]

TAC Cup Grand Final

CALDER CANNONS: 5.3 11.4 12.7 16.7 (103)
OAKLEIGH CHARGERS: 5.1 8.5 16.8 19.16 (130)

GOALS -
Calder Cannons: Maric 5, Caruso 3, Gazzo 3, Allen 2, Daniher, Horne, McErlain
Oakleigh Chargers: Kelly 6, Batsanis 3, Sheldon 2, Otten 2, Reid 2, Carey, Gray, Melhem, Smith

BEST -
Calder Cannons: Horne, Maric, Allen, Caruso, O'Dwyer, Williams, Gazzo
Oakleigh Chargers: Kelly, Batsanis, MacKay, Smith, Goldstein, Carafa, Kelly

UMPIRES - McCarthy, Mills, Ritchie
At the MCG

The first tac game i see all year (after watching about 10 last year) - batsanis should have got the medal, absolutely dominated. always found space. Oakleigh did well by shutting down williams who had about 14 touches in 1st quarter then only about 5 for the rest of the game. allen was good when he was in the forward line but even though he got a bit of the ball he didnt knock my socks off (when he was pushed up the ground) but did look good in the forward line. Maric - he will be one to look for next year, thumping kick and a good forward, did well in the middle for an underage player.he was very good,and kicked 10 earlier this year,looks to have the goods. Kelly did well, goals win matches but he could have had many more(the reason i would have given the medal to batsanis) but dropped a couple of sitters and mucked a few up and had to end up handballing off ormucking it up as a result. Batsanis was good,not going to draft camp? he was sure to impress today.Otten was a good mark up front. Caruso is a good runner, knows where the ball is going and where to run its a pity him and the calder capt (horne? i have no idea) couldnt break the lines and lead a comeback in the 4th quarter. yeh thats my thoughts on the game, also the chargers ruckman dominated, dont know who he is i think they said he was about 100kg and had only recently started footy but he was great. and farmer in defence for calder did some decent things.
would have liked calder to win to send rob hyde out with a win after such a long service for the club

Was at the game today and never had seen any of these players before.

These were the players that I really liked and could have good futures.

Oakleigh Chargers

Kelly - Everyone saw what he was made of today

Batsanis - wow this kid is electric just kept on finding the ball my tac cup meddalist.

Calder Cannons

Matty O'Dwyer - good first quarter but slacked off for last 3 good signs and i hope carlton can snag him

Jake Williams - 16 possesions before half time kept finding the ball. When him and O'Dwyer weren't doing anything Oakleigh got on top of the game

Adam Maric - good first half performence 5 goals

McErlain - looked pretty good hard at the ball

Watched todays TAC GF

Super impressed with Kelly after watching todays Grand Final. Played a captians game deep in the forward line. A Nuggety type, the Buchanan comparison is pretty close, I thought he had alot of Chapman about him also. Scored a bag of goals, and also gave many off to team mates. Not very tall but a very good build, solid. BOG and was givin the medal. Spoke well and seem to have a good head on him. For mine, looks a fine prospect.

I thought for a 200cm lad Goldstein looks abit of a prospect and might be worth a rookie spot. For a player of his size he seemed quiet agile/mobile but above all else has a great set of hands.

Maric was, for mine the easy the outstanding player of the first half. Only 16 but looks ever bit a gun. Top 10 draft pick 2007?

Batsanis & MacKay both look handy.

Is Caruso the gun U18 player who has won the medal but they reckon won't get drafted 'cause of his size? Would be a real shame. Good enough to get a crack I would hope. Class.

Allen also looks a decent KPP prospect.

 

[Kildonan]

Macca69's phantom draft is developing into an annual feature of Big Footy:

Thought I'd help to fill the void left by footydraft. Did something similar last year too (http://www.BigFooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=201758). This may look a little different to what's been said on BF so far, but this is what I am predicting will happen at this stage. Would like to hear your thoughts on it too, cheers.

1. Carlton – Bryce Gibbs
2. Essendon – Mitchell Thorp
3. Kangas – Scott Gumbleton
4. Brisbane – Leroy Jetta
5. Port – James Sellar
6. Hawthorn – Matthew Leuenberger
7. Geelong – Lachlan Hansen
8. Richmond – Caleb Mourish
9. St Kilda – Albert Proud
10. Collingwood– Joel Selwood
11. Bulldogs – Jack Riewoldt
12. Melbourne – Clayton Collard
13. Freo – Clinton Benjamin
14. Adelaide – Kurt Tippett
15. Sydney – Tom Hislop
16. West Coast – Eric MacKenzie

17. Carlton – Daniel Connors
18. Essendon – Ben Reid

19. Carlton – Jarryd Allen
20. Essendon – Nathan Djerrkura
21. Kangaroos – Chris Schmidt
22. Brisbane – David Armitage
23. Port – Broc O’Brien
24. Hawthorn – Rhyce Prismall
25. Geelong – Jarrad Harbrow
26. Richmond – Nathan Krakouer
27. St Kilda – Andrejs Everitt
28. Collingwood – James Hawksley
29. Bulldogs – Tom Collier
30. Melbourne – Daniel O’Keefe
31. Freo – Bachar Houli
32. Sydney - Nathan Brown
33. Adelaide – Ricky Petterd
34. West Coast – Jarryd Morton

35. Carlton - Brent Renouf
36. Essendon – Gavin Urquart
37. Kangaroos - Gary Moss
38. Brisbane - James Frawley
39. Port – Todd Pfeiffer
40. Hawthorn – Joshua Kennedy
41. Geelong – Tom Hawkins
42. Richmond – Colin Garland
43. St Kilda – Grant Weeks
44. Collingwood – Travis Boak
45. Bulldogs – Jackson Sheringham
46. Melbourne – Mitchell Brown
47. Fremantle - Dean Kelly
48. Adelaide – Justin Westhoff
49. Sydney – Tom Hurley
50. West Coast – Alwyn Davey

 

[Truth Personified]

Scouting from the West

Hello there,

Im a Fremantle fan but I work within the WAFL league sides and have an insight to rookie drafting.

This year we have seen a huge jump in activity by Victorian clubs in relation to Rookie listing prospects within the WAFL.

Hawthorn and St Kilda recently held a joint screening for six players from the WAFL.

Players were:

Nathan Phillips, Peel 19yr old HFF/Wingman. 187cm 85kg.

- Played most of his games this year in the reserves for Peel, a majority of this time was spent up foward deep in attack. By round 12 he was leading the reserved goal-kicking for Peel, and second in the League, in a side that was regularly pummelled. His form was solid without being spectactular.

However it was his move into the midfield for a 3 week period which opened the eyes of most in the West. Opposed to Leroy Jetta on a Wing Phillips gathered 33 disposals and kicked two goals in a losing side, he was vying for BOG with Collard who kicked 5.
The next two weeks sore an 20+ possesions and goals sprinkled amongst the games.

Earned himself a league debut through the solid form and again played from up foward. Joined the "goal with first kick in league footy Club" against West Perth and was amongst the Best in a winning side at Arena. Also had a mark nominated for mark of the year.

Backed up this effort with another performance in the best in a game against the tigers, bagging three goals and wracking up 21 possesions from HFF.

Finished the year strongly with 2 goals 3 against Perth at Rushton and missed a few set shots he would normally have kicked.

3 games in League side for Peel showed he was not out of place. The 7 goals were not cheap either, most game when his side needed them, particularly in the win against the Falcons.

Assets:
Phillips is an aeralist, loves to take an overhead mark and has a set of hands to back them up. His set shot is also very solid. Has good distance on boths sides with his right being the preffered.
Also very fit, runs hard all day and has a 15.1 beep test to his name.

Liabilities: His handball, rarely handballs and when he does he normally hits a target. May have been told to kick because of his feild kicking skills, but certainly needs to use it more, especially in close.

Areas to work on: Acceleration, once he hits his top speed he's pretty sharp, first ten steps need to be worked on especially if he is to play as a midfielder who rests foward.
Tackling, prefers the bump to a tackle, needs to lay a few more to keep the pressure in the foward fifty. Got by on the workrate of Ballantyne in the Peel league side.

A solid rookie prospect, but I would imagine he would need to display the same form from the last three rounds of this year through a full season before he gets a call up. Good prospect with great skills.

Danny Chatres: Peel 21 yr old Ruckman/CHB/CHF 195cm 95kg (unofficial)

A very likely inclusion to a number of sides next year, has been linked with Essendon recently and has the form and agility to back it up.

Played all his football in the league side this year and worked well at both ends of the ground and as a foil in the middle for Gumbleton. Very agile bigman with good pace and a strong kick, worked well for Peel in the second half the year at both CHB and CHF.

Spent a period of time at Fullback where he performed well and was a danger with his penetrating boot.

Assets: Agillity, for a man his size he plays in a Cox like fashion, minus the skills on both sides and huge fitness levels. His overhead marking was also a feature as was his left foot missiles out of defence. Greatest asset is his leadership qualities, cleary the general in the back half of a very young side.

Liabilties: Closing speed, great in a pack or one on one situation but was shown up a few times in the season when the foward line was opened up by opposition coaches, certainly not a huge concern, but still a concern.
Also has no right boot.

Areas to Work on: Fitness, whilst still great, for the roles he playes he needs an extra 10 minutes in his tank to truly fulfill his talents. Has good rucking skills, but, as with most young ruckman, tapping to advantage still needs to be mastered, was sharked alot mid-year.

Shapes as a very solid KPP prospect, and if he is not taken by either of the W.A sides, I suggest that Carlton, Essendon and the Saints will be chasing him at some stage in the drafting period.

The other players screened were:
Clint Jones, South Fremantle, 22 yr old/ Wingman/HBF

Known quantity, similar to Priddis. Hardworking Midlfielder who finds alot of the footy and carries well. A ball magnet with good pace.

Needs to work on his skills, a littel scratchy.

Another very safe pick-up.

Andrew Strijk, West Perth 19 yr old/ Midfielder/ HFF

Didnt get to see alot of this boy as my work sees me employed south of the river. From what I have heard he is a very raw, but very talented youngster with good pace and takes a liking to carrying the ball.

I did witness his game against the Bulldogs and his run and carry were a feature, handy in front of goal.

His body needs a fair bit of work.

I wont put up his assets and liabilities because, I couldnt do that based on one game.

The other two were:

Michael Griffiths: East Fremantle 209cm 100 kg 23 yr old

If ever the Saints were looking for a Ruckman, but without the hassle to develop, here is the go. Originally from Port Melbourne this huge lump of a lad has excelled in the Ruck department for the Sharks. In a side widely criticised Griffiths has been one of the few Shining Lights.

Beat all-comers in terms of hit-outs for the year, good marking skills and as good as skills as you could hope for by foot from a ruckman that size.

Assets: Ruckwork, unlike many WAFL rucks, Griffiths has a knack of slotting them into the path of his on-ballers, worked well with Woewodin all year, no matter the scoreline. He also displays strong hands in pack situations, defeinitely a viable option operating for the goalsquare.

Liabilties: Fitness and workrate, the par go hand in hand but I believe, if put on an AFL list this boy can only get better in both areas. He also has a terrible, handpass from his left side.

Areas to Work on: Stoppages, particularly boundary throw-ins. He is very good at centre square contests and solid in bounce-downs, but for a boy his size, is beaten far too often from the throw-in, I could be nit-picking, but for a lad that size he should dominate, not contest.

Another, very likely option for a Rookie listing. Fremantle are the other club to express interest.

Steven Browne WP: Havent seen him play save for the 18's carnival, solid midfield type.

I hope this serves you well and gives you a little more inight into the depth Vic clubs are no investing into Scouting.

Cheers TP

 

[sauce_head]

Re: Scouting from the West

Thanks for that TP. Good to see we are getting involved with the talent out West. The Penny has dropped!

 

[sainter]

Re: Scouting from the West

Yes, much appreciated TP.

 

[Kildonan]

Re: Scouting from the West

Well done Truth Personified.

This is the first that I've heard of any of those guys.

Much appreciated.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Re: Scouting from the West

Griffiths sounds interesting. With all the hype about monster ruckmen these days surely he will be picked up. What are his skills like?

 

[mighty_sainters]

Re: Scouting from the West

Ive heard strijk is quite a good player actually. Havnt heard of anyone else

 

[Truth Personified]

Re: Scouting from the West

Griffiths sounds interesting. With all the hype about monster ruckmen these days surely he will be picked up. What are his skills like?

They aren't the greatest, his field kicking is good for a ruckman, it is his handball that needs attention, tends to fire it out with no weight nor direction.

Having said that, his rucking ability covers those downfalls quite easily.

Consider this:

The WAFL has many ruckman, of AFL standard albeit the lower half.

Gardiner
Bandy
Spanderman
Newick
Warnock
Cambell.

All have been affilated with an AFL club, in the ruck contests this year, he defeated all those metioned above with relative ease.

 

[borderbarry]

Re: Scouting from the West

Griffiths would be worth a pick up with our last draft pick, or as a rookie.

 

[Kildonan]

2006 NAB AFL Draft Camp Results

Please find following fitness results recorded at the 2006 NAB AFL Draft Camp, which was held at the Australian Institute of Sport in Canberra this week.

2006 NAB AFL Draft Camp results

Height
Matthew Leuenberger - 203.2cm
Sean Hampson - 200.8cm
Kurt Tippett - 200.6cm
Daniel Currie - 200.4cm
Brent Renouf - 200.3cm
Scott Gumbleton - 197.1cm
Lachlan Hansen - 196.7cm
Ben Reid - 196.4cm
Jesse White - 196.3cm
Eric McKenzie - 195.8cm

Mass (Weight)
Jesse White - 101.4kg
Justin Hardy - 97.3kg
Kurt Tippett - 95.9kg
Chris Dawes - 95.6kg
Sean Hampson - 93.1kg
Matthew Leuenberger - 92.9kg
Scott Gumbleton - 92.8kg
Brent Renouf - 92.5kg
Robert Tarrant - 91.9kg
Alex Lee - 91.8kg

Agility
David Armitage - 7.88 sec
Daniel Hayes - 8.04 sec
Andrejs Everitt - 8.06 sec
Tom Hislop - 8.10 sec
Simon Hogan - 8.14 sec
Kyle Reimers - 8.16 sec
Gavin Urquhart - 8.17 sec
Nathan Djerrkura - 8.18 sec
Colin Garland - 8.18 sec
Brock O'Brien - 8.19 sec

Repeat Sprints - 30 metres
Simon Hogan - 24.67 sec
Tim Houlihan - 24.72 sec
Clint Benjamin - 24.74 sec
Joe Anderson - 24.76 sec
Nathan Djerrkura - 25.00 sec
Nathan Brown - 25.07 sec
Nathan Krakouer - 25.08 sec
Mark Austin - 25.09 sec
Mitchell Brown - 25.34 sec
Jarryd Allen - 25.36 sec

Vertical jump - standing
Shane Edwards - 69cm
Daniel Hayes - 68cm
Clint Benjamin - 67cm
Eric McKenzie - 66cm
Jarryd Morton - 66cm
Clayton Collard - 66cm
Brent Renouf - 65cm
Joel Selwood - 65cm
James Sellar - 65cm
Nick Smith - 65cm

20-metre sprint
Nathan Krakouer - 2.83 sec
Nathan Djerrkura - 2.90 sec
Nathan Brown - 2.91 sec
Simon Hogan - 2.91 sec
Brock O'Brien - 2.92 sec
Shaun Grigg - 2.92 sec
Ben Reid - 2.93 sec
Ben Ross - 2.94 sec
Clint Benjamin - 2.95 sec
Travis Boak - 2.96 sec

Shuttle Run (Beep test)
Simon Hogan - level 15.04
Tim Houlihan - level 15.04
Shane Edwards - level 15.04
Bachar Houli - level 14.09
James Thomson - level 14.08
Joe Anderson - level 14.04
Nathan Djerrkura - level 14.04
Will Schofield - level 14.04
Lachlan Hansen - level 14.04
David Armitage - level 14.03

Handspan
Jesse White - 26.7cm
Kurt Tippett - 26.3cm
Brent Renouf - 25.4cm
Tom Collier - 25.2cm
Chris Schmidt - 25.2cm
Justin Hardy - 25.0cm
Sean Hampson - 25.0cm
Mark Austin - 24.9cm
Andrejs Everitt - 24.9cm
Daniel Currie - 24.6cm

Three-km time-trial
Tim Houlihan - 9:37 mins
Simon Hogan - 9:55 mins
Shane Edwards - 10:00 mins
James Thomson - 10:13 mins
Daniel Dzufer - 10:14 mins
Bachar Houli - 10:23 mins
Brent Renouf - 10:27 mins
Will Schofield - 10:34 mins
Haydyn Kiel - 10:35 mins
David Armitage/Jarryn Geary - 10:36 mins

 

[Kildonan]

Draft Order (prior to trade week - will change)

Round One:

1: Carlton
2: Essendon
3: Kangaroos
4: Brisbane
5: Port Adelaide
6: Hawthorn
7: Geelong
8: Richmond
9: St. Kilda
10: Collingwood
11: Western Bulldogs
12: Melbourne
13: Fremantle
14: Adelaide
15: Sydney
16: West Coast

Priority Selections:

17: Carlton
18: Essendon

Round Two:

19: Carlton
20: Essendon
21: Kangaroos
22: Brisbane
23: Port Adelaide
24: Hawthorn
25: Geelong
26: Richmond
27: St. Kilda
28: Collingwood
29: Western Bulldogs
30: Melbourne
31: Fremantle
32: Adelaide
33: Sydney
34: West Coast

Round Three:

35: Carlton
36: Essendon
37: Kangaroos
38: Brisbane
39: Port Adelaide
40: Hawthorn (Josh Kennedy)
41: Geelong (Tom Hawkins)
42: Richmond
43: St. Kilda
44: Collingwood
45: Western Bulldogs
46: Melbourne
47: Fremantle
48: Adelaide
49: Sydney
50: West Coast

Round Four:

51: Carlton
52: Essendon
53: Kangaroos
54: Brisbane
55: Port Adelaide
56: Hawthorn
57: Geelong
58: Richmond
59: St. Kilda
60: Collingwood
61: Western Bulldogs
62: Melbourne
63: Fremantle
64: Adelaide
65: Sydney
66: West Coast

Round Five:

67: Carlton
68: Essendon
69: Kangaroos
70: Brisbane
71: Port Adelaide
72: Hawthorn
73: Geelong
74: Richmond
75: St. Kilda
76: Collingwood
77: Western Bulldogs
78: Melbourne
79: Fremantle
80: Adelaide
81: Sydney
82: West Coast

 

[Kildonan]

Mojo didn't have Shane Edwards in his top 30, but his stocks have risen after a good show in the draft camp.

Yes he is skinny but I'd bet he is more likely to fill out than someone like schmidt. He has terrfic athletic qualities - especially impressed than he has a good wind tank. He seems to make slightly ambitious decisions but reminds me (in this way) of a young shaun burgoyne - experience will work it out. So why aren't we talking him up as a possible late first round/early second round pick? Please enlighten me - particlarly sa fans.

And you haven't mentioned his ferocious tacking either, 10 tackles in an SANFL prelim final the other day.

Seems to have truckloads of desire.

Good call!

(I've only seen him play) about 3 games, but was super impressed

First impressions were something along the lines of "man, that little fella is going to get creamed" but he stood up to the physical play wonderfully well and seems super disciplined.

His tackling stood out over all his other attributes for mine.

I have seen Shane play many games this year - has a big heart, super fit (3rd in the draft camp beep test), good skills, fantastic tackler.

Proven against men and not boys like most of the Vic U18.

Placed FIRST in the standing vertical jump (@ 69cm),

THIRD in the shuttle run (Beep test) (@ 15.04),

THIRD in the 3 km time trial (@ 10.00 min)

Clearly has fitness on his side, and from all reports it seems he is as game as they come.
I think he is a potential 2nd round pick.

 

[Independent Observer]

Re: Scouting from the West

Hello there,

Im a Fremantle fan but I work within the WAFL league sides and have an insight to rookie drafting.

This year we have seen a huge jump in activity by Victorian clubs in relation to Rookie listing prospects within the WAFL.

Hawthorn and St Kilda recently held a joint screening for six players from the WAFL.

Players were:

Nathan Phillips, Peel 19yr old HFF/Wingman. 187cm 85kg.

- Played most of his games this year in the reserves for Peel, a majority of this time was spent up foward deep in attack. By round 12 he was leading the reserved goal-kicking for Peel, and second in the League, in a side that was regularly pummelled. His form was solid without being spectactular.

However it was his move into the midfield for a 3 week period which opened the eyes of most in the West. Opposed to Leroy Jetta on a Wing Phillips gathered 33 disposals and kicked two goals in a losing side, he was vying for BOG with Collard who kicked 5.
The next two weeks sore an 20+ possesions and goals sprinkled amongst the games.

Earned himself a league debut through the solid form and again played from up foward. Joined the "goal with first kick in league footy Club" against West Perth and was amongst the Best in a winning side at Arena. Also had a mark nominated for mark of the year.

Backed up this effort with another performance in the best in a game against the tigers, bagging three goals and wracking up 21 possesions from HFF.

Finished the year strongly with 2 goals 3 against Perth at Rushton and missed a few set shots he would normally have kicked.

3 games in League side for Peel showed he was not out of place. The 7 goals were not cheap either, most game when his side needed them, particularly in the win against the Falcons.

Assets:
Phillips is an aeralist, loves to take an overhead mark and has a set of hands to back them up. His set shot is also very solid. Has good distance on boths sides with his right being the preffered.
Also very fit, runs hard all day and has a 15.1 beep test to his name.

Liabilities: His handball, rarely handballs and when he does he normally hits a target. May have been told to kick because of his feild kicking skills, but certainly needs to use it more, especially in close.

Areas to work on: Acceleration, once he hits his top speed he's pretty sharp, first ten steps need to be worked on especially if he is to play as a midfielder who rests foward.
Tackling, prefers the bump to a tackle, needs to lay a few more to keep the pressure in the foward fifty. Got by on the workrate of Ballantyne in the Peel league side.

A solid rookie prospect, but I would imagine he would need to display the same form from the last three rounds of this year through a full season before he gets a call up. Good prospect with great skills.
Danny Chatres: Peel 21 yr old Ruckman/CHB/CHF 195cm 95kg (unofficial)

A very likely inclusion to a number of sides next year, has been linked with Essendon recently and has the form and agility to back it up.

Played all his football in the league side this year and worked well at both ends of the ground and as a foil in the middle for Gumbleton. Very agile bigman with good pace and a strong kick, worked well for Peel in the second half the year at both CHB and CHF.

Spent a period of time at Fullback where he performed well and was a danger with his penetrating boot.

Assets: Agillity, for a man his size he plays in a Cox like fashion, minus the skills on both sides and huge fitness levels. His overhead marking was also a feature as was his left foot missiles out of defence. Greatest asset is his leadership qualities, cleary the general in the back half of a very young side.

Liabilties: Closing speed, great in a pack or one on one situation but was shown up a few times in the season when the foward line was opened up by opposition coaches, certainly not a huge concern, but still a concern.
Also has no right boot.

Areas to Work on: Fitness, whilst still great, for the roles he playes he needs an extra 10 minutes in his tank to truly fulfill his talents. Has good rucking skills, but, as with most young ruckman, tapping to advantage still needs to be mastered, was sharked alot mid-year.

Shapes as a very solid KPP prospect, and if he is not taken by either of the W.A sides, I suggest that Carlton, Essendon and the Saints will be chasing him at some stage in the drafting period.

The other players screened were:
Clint Jones, South Fremantle, 22 yr old/ Wingman/HBF

Known quantity, similar to Priddis. Hardworking Midlfielder who finds alot of the footy and carries well. A ball magnet with good pace.

Needs to work on his skills, a littel scratchy.

Another very safe pick-up.

Andrew Strijk, West Perth 19 yr old/ Midfielder/ HFF

Didnt get to see alot of this boy as my work sees me employed south of the river. From what I have heard he is a very raw, but very talented youngster with good pace and takes a liking to carrying the ball.

I did witness his game against the Bulldogs and his run and carry were a feature, handy in front of goal.

His body needs a fair bit of work.

I wont put up his assets and liabilities because, I couldnt do that based on one game.

The other two were:

Michael Griffiths: East Fremantle 209cm 100 kg 23 yr old

If ever the Saints were looking for a Ruckman, but without the hassle to develop, here is the go. Originally from Port Melbourne this huge lump of a lad has excelled in the Ruck department for the Sharks. In a side widely criticised Griffiths has been one of the few Shining Lights.

Beat all-comers in terms of hit-outs for the year, good marking skills and as good as skills as you could hope for by foot from a ruckman that size.

Assets: Ruckwork, unlike many WAFL rucks, Griffiths has a knack of slotting them into the path of his on-ballers, worked well with Woewodin all year, no matter the scoreline. He also displays strong hands in pack situations, defeinitely a viable option operating for the goalsquare.

Liabilties: Fitness and workrate, the par go hand in hand but I believe, if put on an AFL list this boy can only get better in both areas. He also has a terrible, handpass from his left side.

Areas to Work on: Stoppages, particularly boundary throw-ins. He is very good at centre square contests and solid in bounce-downs, but for a boy his size, is beaten far too often from the throw-in, I could be nit-picking, but for a lad that size he should dominate, not contest.

Another, very likely option for a Rookie listing. Fremantle are the other club to express interest.

Steven Browne WP: Havent seen him play save for the 18's carnival, solid midfield type.

I hope this serves you well and gives you a little more inight into the depth Vic clubs are no investing into Scouting.

Cheers TP

His father played for the Royals, couldnt agree more with what you have said, separates himself from the pack in that he always looks to the corridor.

 

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The order of selection for the 2006 NAB AFL Draft following the completion of the trade period.


ROUND 1
1. Carlton
2. Essendon
3. Kangaroos
4. Brisbane Lions
5. Port Adelaide
6. Hawthorn
7. Geelong
8. Collingwood
9. St Kilda
10. Collingwood
11. W/Bulldogs
12. Melbourne
13. Richmond
14. Adelaide
15. Sydney
16. West Coast
PRIORITY
17. Carlton
18. Essendon
ROUND 2
19. Carlton
20. Essendon
21. Kangaroos
22. Brisbane Lions
23. Port Adelaide
24. Hawthorn
25. Geelong
26. Richmond
27. St Kilda
28. Collingwood
29. West Coast
30. Melbourne
31. Fremantle
32. Adelaide
33. Hawthorn
34. Brisbane Lions
ROUND 3
35. Carlton
36. Essendon
37. Kangaroos
38. Brisbane Lions
39. Port Adelaide
40. Hawthorn
41. Geelong
42. Essendon
43. West Coast
44. Collingwood
45. W/Bulldogs
46. Melbourne
47. Essendon
48. Adelaide
49. Sydney
50. West Coast
ROUND 4
51. Carlton
52. Fremantle
53. Kangaroos
54. Brisbane Lions
55. Port Adelaide
56. Hawthorn
57. Geelong
58. Richmond
59. St Kilda
60. Richmond
61. W/Bulldogs
62. Melbourne
63. Collingwood
64. Adelaide
65. Sydney
66. W/Bulldogs
ROUND 5
67. Carlton
68. Essendon
69. Kangaroos
70. Brisbane Lions
71. Port Adelaide
72. Hawthorn
73. Geelong
74. Richmond
75. St Kilda ??
76. Collingwood
77. W/Bulldogs
78. Melbourne
79. Fremantle
80. Adelaide
81. Sydney
82. West Coast
ROUND 6
83. Carlton
84. Essendon
85. Kangaroos
86. Brisbane Lions
87. Port Adelaide
88. Hawthorn
89. Geelong
90. Richmond
91. St Kilda ??
92. Collingwood
93. W/Bulldogs
94. Melbourne
95. Fremantle
96. Adelaide
97. Sydney
98. West Coast

I think St Kilda will aim to recruit the two best available midfielders with their first two picks and select a tall defender type with their 4th round pick. It is unlikely that we will take the picks in the next two rounds (1 at most) unless more delistings are in the works.

If we have a target in the preseason draft, we will most probably take just the three picks in this draft.

 

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Important Dates:

Key dates for various stages of the player exchange and draft process:

Draft Camp (Canberra)
October 4 / 5 / 6 Completed

Exchange Period (Trade Week)
Monday October 9 to 2pm Friday October 13, 2006 Completed

List Lodgement One
2pm Tuesday October 31, 2006.
Maximum of 35 players, Rookie Promotions, Father/Son selections, Retained (second-year) Rookies

Draft Nominations Close
2pm Wednesday November 15

List Lodgement Two
2pm Friday November 17

Delisted Players Nominations Close
2pm Wednesday November 22

2006 NAB AFL Draft, held at Victory Room, Telstra Dome
10am Saturday November 25

Uncontracted Listed Players Nominations Close
2pm Tuesday November 28

List Lodgement Three and TPP Estimates; International Rookie Player Nominations
2pm Friday December 1

Delisted Player Nominations Close
2pm Friday December 8

NAB AFL Pre-Season Draft (Microsoft Live Meeting Technology)
10am Tuesday December 12

Nomination of Eligible Rookie Players (Brisbane Lions and Sydney)
10.15am Tuesday December 12

NAB AFL Rookie Draft (Microsoft Live Meeting Technology)
10.30am Tuesday December 12

 

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Macca69's revised draft (after trade week)

As promised . Must stress that this is a pretty rough effort (especially for the latter picks), as I'm still not sure how many picks each team will use, any advice on this would be appreciated as would any feedback on the draft itself. May be few surprises since the last update

Round One:

1. Carlton – Bryce Gibbs
2. Essendon – Mitchell Thorp
3. Kangas – James Sellar
4. Brisbane – Matthew Leuenberger
5. Port – Nathan Brown
6. Hawthorn – Lachlan Hansen
7. Geelong – Scott Gumbleton
8: Collingwood - Joel Selwood
9: St. Kilda - Leroy Jetta
10: Collingwood - Caleb Mourish
11: Western Bulldogs - David Armitage
12: Melbourne - Clayton Collard
13: Richmond - Nathan Krakouer
14. Adelaide – Jack Riewoldt
15. Sydney – Kurt Tippett
16. West Coast – Eric MacKenzie

Priority Selections:

17. Carlton – Broc O’Brien
18. Essendon – Nathan Djerrkura

Round Two:

19. Carlton – Leigh Adams
20. Essendon – Albert Proud
21. Kangaroos – Daniel Connors
22. Brisbane – Ricky Petterd
23. Port – Tom Hislop
24. Hawthorn – Brent Renouf
25. Geelong – Clinton Benjamin
26. Richmond – Colin Garland
27. St Kilda – Craig Bird
28. Collingwood – Chris Schmidt
29: West Coast - Jarryd Allen
30: Melbourne - Andrejs Everitt
31. Freo – James Hawksley
32. Sydney - Tom Collier
33: Hawthorn - Daniel O’Keefe
34: Brisbane - Bachar Houli

Round Three:

35. Carlton - Ben Reid
36. Essendon – Jarrad Harbrow
37. Kangaroos - Rhyce Prismall
38. Brisbane - Gavin Urquart
39. Port – Tom Hurley
40. Hawthorn – Joshua Kennedy
41. Geelong – Tom Hawkins
42: Essendon - James Frawley
43: West Coast - Jarryd Morton
44: Collingwood - Shaun Grigg
45: Western Bulldogs - Travis Boak
46. Melbourne – Mitchell Brown
47: Essendon - Grant Weeks
48: Adelaide - Tim Houlihan
49: Sydney - Gary Moss
50: West Coast – Carl Peterson

Round Four:

51: Carlton – Sam Jacobs
52: Fremantle – Dean Kelly
53: Kangaroos – Jackson Sheringham
54: Brisbane – Robert Eddy
55: Port Adelaide – Alwyn Davey
56: Hawthorn – Daniel Caire
57: Geelong – Todd Pfeiffer
58: Richmond – Nathan Batsanis
59: St Kilda– Matthew Vasilevski
60: Richmond – Jarryn Geary
61: Western Bulldogs – Caolan Buckley
62: Melbourne – Shaun Hampson
63: Collingwood – Chris Varsamarkis
64: Adelaide - Justin Westhoff
65: Sydney – Jesse White
66: Western Bulldogs – Brad ****

Round Five:

67: Carlton – Chris Dawes
68: Essendon – Pass
69: Kangaroos – Aaron Edwards
70: Brisbane - Lindsay Thomas
71: Port Adelaide – Simon Hogan
72: Hawthorn – Pass
73: Geelong - Shane Edwards
74: Richmond - Joe Anderson
75: St. Kilda – Mark Austin
76: Collingwood - Pass
77: Western Bulldogs - Pass
78: Melbourne - Pass
79: Fremantle – Jaymie Youle
80: Adelaide - Pass
81: Sydney – Zac Millar
82: West Coast - Pass

 

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South Australians in State and National Drafts

Note that Alwyn Davey did not get an invite and Nick Gill (age 23) is the oldest !

National Camp (at least 4 clubs)

1. Bryce Gibbs
2. James Sellar
3. Shane Edwards
4. Chris Schmidt
5. Sam Jacobs
6. Caolan Buckley
7. Lindsey Thomas
8. Mark Austin
9. James Turner

State Camp - 1 to 3 clubs

1. Tom Hurley
2. Zac Millar
3. Gerard McGrath
4. Jusin Westhoff
5. Lachlin Button
6. Angas Lally
7. Gavin Hughes
8. Toby Schulz
9. Jon Cheetham
10. Greg Gallman
11. Andrew McIntyre
12. Todd Pfeiffer
13. Henry White
14. Nick Gill (!)
15. Josh Taylor
16. Jacob Crate
17. Daniel May
18. Tom Anderson
19. Daniel Caire
20. Alex Hutchens
21. Paul Stewart

Most of these played for the SA U/18s:

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=risingstarprogram&spg=u18champsdisplay&articleid=275413

 

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West Australian State and National Draft Camps

Draft Camp

Clint Benjamin
Nathan Krakouer
Eric McKenzie
Jarryd Morton
James Thomson
Brad ****
Leuneberger
Moss
Gumbleton
Hawksley
O'Brien
Reimers
Clayton Collard
Jetta

State Screening

Liam Bedford
Josh Hill
Liam Anthony
Jamie McNamara
Andrew McCarrey (Ex Eagle)
James Venturini
Shawn Colbung
Ben Howlett
Dane Ugle
Grae Grant
Brett Speldewinde
Brennan Stack
Sharrod Wellingham
Blake Broadhurst
Robert Forrest
Matt Virgo
Greg Broughton
Trent Dennis-Lane

Late additions to state screening:

Carl Petersen - Claremont (young aboriginal who injured his elbow in the WAFL Preliminary Final)
Calib Mourish - East Fremantle (The smokie of this years draft, came down from Geraldton to play one game of WAFL Colts so he could be drafted)
Trevor Oliver - East Perth (Young aboriginal from NT)
Dean **** - Perth (Young aboriginal that plays nearly every position on the ground)
Callum Wilson - South Fremantle (FF who kicked 5 goals on his WAFL debut against Peel)

 

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The 13 Queenslanders invited to the draft camp are:-

Name - Age - Ht (cm) - Wt (kg) - Club
David Armitage - 18 - 183 - 79 - Mackay/Morningside
Daniel Dzufer - 18 - 186 - 81 - Caloundra/Zillmere
Gavin Grose - 17 - 193 - 85 - Southport
Shaun Hampson - 18 - 201.5 - 93 - Mt.Gravatt
Haydn Kiel - 18 - 178 - 79 - Southport
Ricky Petterd - 18 - 184 - 77 - Broadbeach
Albert Proud - 17 - 179 - 80 - Mt.Gravatt
Brent Renouf - 18 - 199 - 92 - Southport
Chris Smith - 18 - 184 - 80 - Caloundra/Mt.Gravatt
Kurt Tippett - 19 - 199 - 98 - Southport
Gavin Urquhart - 18 - 186 - 78 - Rockhampton/Morningside
Ben Warren - 17 - 185 - 80 - Zillmere
Jesse White - 18 - 197 - 95 - Southport

The seven Queenslanders invited to undergo State screening are:-

Name - Age - Ht (cm) - Wt (kg) - Club
Scott Clouston - 19 - 191 - 84 - Morningside
Brad Howard - 18 - 183 - 72 - Toowoomba/Redland
Rhys Magin - 17 - 182 - 69 - Noosa/Suncoast Lions
Adam Mueller - 18 - 187 - 73 - Redland
Simon Plummer - 17 - 192 - 82 - Mt.Gravatt
Shaun Tapp - 17 - 194 - 91 - Western Magpies
Tauryan Zimmer - 17 - 186 - 82 - Southport

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definates in that group- petterd, proud, armitage, urquhart, renouf
definates you missed - hampson

probables in that group - dzufer, tippet
probables you missed - smith, kiel, grose

i don't think warren and magin will be picked up this year, they both have another year in the system and from what i've heard they haven't done enough this year to get a certain spot but may wait to see how they develop next year

the definites speak for themselves.

the others- tippet i'm unsure about but he is a good KPP prospect i think he will go. heard good reports from his year at southport can take a contested mark and deadly infront of goal.

Dzufer people tend to have mixed opinions so i'm not sure.

Smith played extremely well in the allies game off a HBF showing his running capabilities and that he can play up the ground not just forward. also hear he had a great year on the wing for mt gravatt. like to hear from the mt gravatt guy on here if he can confirm that? i think he will go.

Kiel also played a very good allies game aswell as a good grand final. plays with tippet at southport and had a good year. can play midfield and a run with role and kicks goals. late round pick for mine.

grose good key back with good ability to read the play and not too many around so always in demand.

My opinion from what I've seen of these guys.
Proud - seen a couple of times looks to have the goods and agree top 20
Armitage - knows how to find the footy and no question marks on his courage top 30
Urqhuart - definately has the poise and skills to make it, has been troubled by injuries. Only seen twice and run of half back well against Dandenong and struggled prelim against southport not a lot of game time. Will be drafted i'm sure top 50.
Renouf - have seen alot of him and is a great ruckman, and now with backline to his bow will lift him higher in the draft. Commitment is exemplary and can run all day top 20 definately
Tippett - just what you need is a bloke who can take contested marks and then develop into a ruckman. I think will have a similar afl transition like paul salmon, start full forward and then develop. My tip is Collingwood might take him now they have two rop 10 picks, if not Sydney. First round pick.
Petterd - good leadership material, will be good of hbf or wing to start off and then move to midfield top 30
Kiel - has the class of all the smalls in QLD, and has the ability to do a number of rolls, from midfield to tagging to goal sneak.Similar style to Andrew raines. doesnt get to many mentions but to be invited to draft camp twice you know someone interested. top 50
Dzufer - seen a few times and obviously can play and given important rolls for zillmere plays sunny coast in state and is definately one of their key players, once again invited to draft camp twice so he's being looked at top 70
Smith- same as Dzufer plays sunny coast and is definately there forward target and has a good body structure. Sounds like fitness has improved, certainly has ability shown in QLD. hope he gets drafted but definately rookie.
Hampson- big blokes dont grow on trees and even though renouf is the best ruck in QLD this bloke will come under consideration. likely drafted definate rookie

Warren - not this year and i think to young to be rookied

White - struggled to make southport seniors latter half of the year after being injured, question mark over fitness, just not sure, but been to draft camp twice - rookie list

Grose - havent seen to much cant really comment

Probably 8 QLDers drafted 3 rookied from the 13 that went to camp

from the information i have recieved, tippet took no part in the endurance testing due to a stomach virus, hampson ran around 13.5 for the beep and white was around 13.3 In the 3k i hampson was the next QLD tall to come in behind renouf and then it was white. both hampson and white ran reasonable 3k times but yes they were over shadowed by renoufs performance. as far as ranking the boys this is how i would see it:

TALLS
renouf
hampson
tippet
white
*tippet is a hard one to pick he may go earlier or later it is hard to tell. he has certainly shown alot and has a big enough body that he could start playing as a KPP in the AFL next year.

MEDIUMS
armitage
proud
petterd
urquart
smith/kiel
dzufer
* smith and kiel is a hard one both extremely talented players and have had a good year. i might have smith just a touch in front of kiel as i have seen him play in numerous roles this year (forward, mid, back) and he has been damaging to the opposition no matter what position he has lined up in. this however is to take nothing away from kiel, he is a very damaging player and can influence the out come of a game. hard to split.

If anyone is interested, I just posted this yesterday in a thread on the Brissy Lions board.
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To be honest, I have seen more games played by the Gold Coast draft hopefulls than Brissy players but I will do my best.

My overall ranking- (Only my humble opinion, and opinions will vary. There may be a few surprises here that go against the grain)

1) Kurt Tippett (Southport)
Key position. FF/Ruck.
Another basketball convert. Maybe a touch of Southport bias here but I am very impressed by this bloke and the best QLD'er I have seen this year. Very agile for a big man and quick on the lead. Can take a contested mark and is good in front of goal. Plays in the ruck as well and does that well. Huge scope for improvement. Have a feeling he may be snapped up early.

2) David Armitage (M'side)
Midfielder or Half back/forward
Tough and courageous. His stocks have risen after testing very well at the recent draft camp. A ball magnet. Likely to go first round. I have no doubt the Lions would take him if their pick was at 8-12.

3) Brent Renouf (Southport)
Ruckman/key position
Fantastic ruckman who runs all day. There is no doubt in my mind he will play at least 100 games of AFL football. Great commitment.

4) Albert Proud (Mt Gravatt)
Midfielder
Pacey and knows how to find the ball. Has the goods but tends to drift in and out of games. Question mark over his discipline on and off the field.

5) Haydn Kiel (Southport)
Midfielder/winger
For some reason is not rated as highly as Petterd or Armitage but I rate the bloke hugely. Has pace, agility and is highly skilled. Has a Justin Sherman type of build. I think he tends in drift in and out of games but has all the right attributes. Out of all the Southport draft hopefulls, he finished the higest in the club's best and fairest. I will be watching draft day with interest and desperately hopes he is picked up. He deserves it. Will be a real bargain for whoever takes him because I think he will go late if at all. Very damaging.

6) Ricky Petterd (Broadbeach)
Midfielder/on-baller
Rated highly down south after featuring for QLD at the U/18 c'ship and won the Division 2 medal. Is very smooth and has leadership qualities. Will probably go in the second round. I have seen quite a lot of him this year, and while he has been good, he has been fairly quiet for Broadbeach this year in the games I have seen.

7) Gavin Urquhart (M'side)
Midfielder/defender
Haven't seen enough of him to make a proper judgement. Has been troubled by injuries this year but has the skill to make it. Should be taken late. High possession winner.

8) Daniel Dzufer (Zillmere)
Half Forward Flank/Wingman
He has slipped off the radar a little bit and I think he is a likely rookie list prospect for Brissy. Kicking is inconsistent.

I'll do the same as Nick and rank the Queenslanders in the order in which I rate them - not necessarily the order that I expect them to be drafted. I didn't see the last two AFLQ finals of the season but have seen enough of most of the Queenslanders to provide a (very limited) opinion of them!

1. Armitage - I think he has enough of the required attributes to become the best midfielder Queensland has produced in quite a few years. He is skilful, athletic and tough. I'd take him with anything from about pick 8 on.

2. Renouf - I always considered him the best tall from Queensland this year but his late season performances for Southport put him in a different league. If he was beaten in one aspect of his game, he simply influenced the game somewhere else. He probably won't go top 10 this year but most other years he would be a big show. A top 15 player in my rankings.

3. Proud - I only leave him ranked 3rd because of his potential. An injury riddled season when he could least afford it changes my ranking of him in comparison to others. On reputation, he would be the first Queenslander picked. I wouldn't pick him if I had a top 10 pick. Top 20 only.

4. Hampson - This one is based on the opinion of someone who knows a little bit about Mt Gravatt footballers and, to a lesser extent, the couple of times I watched him play. I would take him with any pick after about pick 25 because he is athetic enough and skilful enough for a ruckman and certainly has the physical characteristics.

5. Smith. If we took Smith with our Aker pick (34), I would not be upset although realistically he would probably be available at our 3rd or 4th rounder and would be a wasted pick at 34. There's a bit of magic with him that makes him stand out from the others and he is a midfielder who kicked bags of goals at the carnival. Given the midfield quality Qld had at the carnival this year, I don't hold it against him that he barely had a run on ball. In my top 30.

6. Tippett. There is a chance the Paul Salmon comparison will hold in which case Tippett may well be the bolter. I rank him as a top 50 player but I cannot decide whether there is room for a Salmon type full forward in today's game. Ottens is the only player I can think of who has Tippett's dimensions and holds down a key forward post regularly - even someone like Nathan Thompson is about 5cm shorter. On rucking alone, I wouldn't take Tippett with a top 50 pick. But if his form as a forward holds, then he would be worthy of a top 15 spot. Somewhere between 40 and 50 IMO.

7. Petterd. His carnival form was top 10 material but on my limited viewings his local form was not as good as most on this list. He'll go higher than I have rated him because of that carnival form but I have doubts over his effectiveness when he has less time. Top 50. Being a local boy, I wouldn't be too concerned if Brisbane took him at 38 but I prefer others.

8. Dzufer. Dzufer's time trial results lifted him from a probable rookie to a probable draftee IMO. He does read the play well and he is a very good size. I thought he was a bit too "in-between" in size but his camp results persuaded me that recruiters may now see his additional size for an on-ball type as an advantage. In the local footy, he stepped up in every final which is a good sign as far as attitude goes. Another top 50 candidate.

9. Urquhart. I really haven't seen a lot of him. He has looked OK when I have seen him and I know he is highly rated by some but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that means that I don't share that opinion. Undoubtedly will be drafted but I wouldn't use anything higher than a 4th rounder for him.

10. Kiel. After a glowing endorsement by Nick a few weeks ago, I spoke to a couple of people regarding Kiel. There are apparently a couple of clubs interested including Brisbane although they tend to follow all the local boys. He'll be on the rookie list at Brisbane and may sneak it for a very late pick.

 

[Kildonan]

Ruckman in Draft:

Name                 State  Club              Ht    Wt
Hampson Sean          QLD   Mt Gravatt        202   93
Leuenberger Matthew   WA    East Perth        202   92
Jacobs Sam            SA    Woodville-WT      201   99
Renouf Brent          QLD   Southport         199   92
Tippett Kurt          QLD   Southport         199   98
Hardy Justin          VIC   Nth Ballarat      195   95
Sellar James          SA    Glenelg           195   92

 

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Medium midfielders in Draft:

Name            State  Club              Ht    Wt
Armitage David   QLD   Morningside      183    79
Benjamin Clint   WA    Claremont        188    80
Boak Travis      VIC   Geelong Falcons  182    75
Buckley Coalan   SA    West Adelaide    182    83
Connors Daniel   VIC   Bendigo          182    77
Edwards Shane    SA    Nth Adelaide     180    70
Geary Jarryn     VIC   Bendigo          182    78
George Lachlan   VIC   Nth Ballarat     181    77
Gibbs Bryce      SA    Glenelg          188    79
Grigg Shaun      VIC   Nth Ballarat     189    79
Hogan Simon      VIC   Geelong Falcons  181    65
Houli Bachar     VIC   Western          180    84
Houlihan Tim     VIC   Nth Ballarat     189    74
Krakouer Nathan  WA    Claremont        182    62
MacKay David     VIC   Oakleigh         181    71
O'Brien Brock    WA    Peel             180    78
O'Keefe Daniel   VIC   Geelong Falcons  183    74
Petterd Ricky    QLD   Broadbeach       184    77
Proud Albert     QLD   Mt Gravatt       179    80
Schmidt Chris    SA    West Adelaide    187    77
Selwood Joel     VIC   Bendigo          181    73
Smith Nick       VIC   Oakleigh         183    78
Urquhart Gavin   QLD   Morningside      186    78
Williams Ryan    VIC   Geelong Falcons  188    87