List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[boondy]

Walley was the pick of the kids at preseason training at start of year
In there preseason training Walley was incredibly good and got a lot praise from McQualter and
Marco Bello
That was before he hurt his shoulder
I think he did enough for them to want him his pressure and tackling was manic then
His shoulder injury meant he couldn't tackle during the main season

This was my observation as well . I posted that he was similar to Shai Bolton at training and some of the drills . Having said this I remember a kid down Bunbury with awsome skills and abilities but not the heart obviously to push himself for 4/4

 

[Cursedsword02]

Banfield confirmation

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Banfield confirmation

They better draft him or else...

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

HUN regurgitating their original story now that father son nominations are coming in. Blues tipped to take 9+11 into draft as a backup plan in case of an early bid. If Dean is delayed, they ideally trade with Crows for a F1

It made me think of the dramas of draft night and my hope for draft night


With pick 1, West Coast select W Duursma

Cal announces Suns and Lions multiple trades with Essendon and other clubs

With pick 2, Eagles select …..

Cal Twomey announces both Blues and Eagles put down the phone simultaneously

Cal announce Carlton and West Coast trades with 13 + xxx for 9

West Coast room seen to be saying “then not Dean”
“Ok - type it in”
With pick 2, Eagles bid on Z Uwland
Suns are on the clock - and they match

With pick 3, Eagles bid on D Patterson
Suns are on the clock - and they match

Cal starts smiling (as the Drug Rat fan he is) and announce Essendon and Eagles trade with 4+11 for 7+8 (originally 2+9 for 5+6)

With pick 4, Essendon select CDT

With pick 5, Tigers bid on D Annable
Lions are on the clock - and they match

With pick 6, Tigers bid on H Dean
Cal announces Blues and Norf trade involving what was 11
Blues are on the clock - and they match

With pick 7, Tigers select S Robey

With pick 8, Tigers select X Taylor

With pick 9, Eagles select D Sharp

With pick 10, Eagles select S Cumming


Oh and feel free to pick who you want at 9+10

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

HUN regurgitating their original story now that father son nominations are coming in. Blues tipped to take 9+11 into draft as a backup plan in case of an early bid. If Dean is delayed, they ideally trade with Crows for a F1

It made me think of the dramas of draft night and my hope for draft night


With pick 1, West Coast select W Duursma

Cal announces Suns and Lions multiple trades with Essendon and other clubs

With pick 2, Eagles select …..

Cal Twomey announces both Blues and Eagles put down the phone simultaneously

Cal announce Carlton and West Coast trades with 13 + xxx for 9

West Coast room seen to be saying “then not Dean”
“Ok - type it in”
With pick 2, Eagles bid on Z Uwland
Suns are on the clock - and they match

With pick 3, Eagles bid on D Patterson
Suns are on the clock - and they match

Cal starts smiling (as the Drug Rat fan he is) and announce Essendon and Eagles trade with 4+11 for 7+8 (originally 2+9 for 5+6)

With pick 4, Essendon select CDT

With pick 5, Tigers bid on D Annable
Lions are on the clock - and they match

With pick 6, Tigers bid on H Dean
Cal announces Blues and Norf trade involving what was 11
Blues are on the clock - and they match

With pick 7, Tigers select S Robey

With pick 8, Tigers select X Taylor

With pick 9, Eagles select D Sharp

With pick 10, Eagles select S Cumming

Would love to end up with Duursma, Sharp and Grjl.

 

[twce13]

There are plenty on here insistent that we should take Sharp at 2, ignoring the changing factors over the year. You haven’t labeled them stubborn because you want Sharp too. Hypocritical.

You said you are “all in on Duursma/Sharp” but are now repeatedly stating that you don’t care and are “not invested” while commenting on here as much as anyone, seems like you’re pretty invested, and are clearly still hoping we get Sharp.

Firstly, im flattered you took the time to research me.

As for my wishes, I like sharp but I'm like a kid at the candy store with eagles having pick 1 and 2.
literally the day before I said i'm all in on duursma/sharp, I said this:



I do agree that i've been defending sharp a lot these last few days, but it's actually in response to the manner of posting by a couple individuals. You see, I really dislike when people post their opinions as certainties. The bloke yesterday claimed not a single club would take sharp over smilie. And you.. well behold:

Yes. You can dismiss the experts all you want but no one is taking Sharp above Robey.

If they pick Wes Walley at pick 2 I guess they are the experts too? Neither are going to happen so it’s a pointless hypothetical. If we take Sharp at pick 2 then send me your deets and I will post you a little trophy that says ‘Expert’

But it’s not going to happen, no matter how much all his Mum’s burner accounts on here want to barrack for it

plenty of people arent that keen on sharp, I have no issue with that as they are not making these baseless statements when in reality they have NFI of the inner workings of the recruitment space.

Personally I dont think eagles will take sharp at 2 either, but i dont have a time machine to confirm this unlike you.
Call me hypocritical all you like, but I'm not making stupid statements like this.

Trying to play it safe and sit on the fence now is a bit of a limp-wristed position to adopt. No need to be scared of judgement from strangers on an anonymous forum. If no one shared an opinion due to fear of being labeled ‘stubborn’ or ‘obtuse’ or whatever other lame labels you wish to use, then it would be a pretty boring discussion.

I like sharp and would be happy to take him. But i've flipped flopped on his perceived ceiling and impact at afl level too. But i'm happy if we call Dyson's name on draft night, but reality is im fine with whoever we take. I'd prefer not robey given his limited sample size, but should we call out his name im sure ill get behind him and his upside pretty quickly.

again, it's not you not rating sharp that I've called you out on. I can understand why some may not want Dyson, he plays a role that is not typical of a top pick in modern footy. It's your attempts at stating your opinion as fact that got my attention.

If being pragmatic about the draft makes me a fence sitter, so be it.

I’ll leave it there as these personal back-and-forths drain the life out of these threads. I’ll stick to my ‘stubborn’ position that Sharp won’t go at pick 2, you stick to the safety of your soft position being that you “aren’t invested” (while secretly barracking that we take Sharp), and we will see the outcome on draft night.

yeah righto, the ol' "ill take the high road, but before i do let me have the last word and take a few jabs before i leave" chestnut. How gracious of you. Let's hope for the sake of everyone you're a man of your word

 

[ArdentEagle]

Would love to end up with Duursma, Sharp and Grjl.

Well...Aren't you a kinky bastard!

 

[FKASC]

So what’s the deal with nominations etc? Can anyone summarise it for me, preferably TLDR?

 

[WCE777]

Walley was the pick of the kids at preseason training at start of year
In there preseason training Walley was incredibly good and got a lot praise from McQualter and
Marco Bello
That was before he hurt his shoulder
I think he did enough for them to want him his pressure and tackling was manic then
His shoulder injury meant he couldn't tackle during the main season

I suspected this may be the case.
He will get through to the CatB/Rookie list then.

 

[uptheWC]

Swaddling. Elite Endurance, good hands, sub par kick. Lacks physicality and intensity at stoppage. Easily turned and bodied by opponents.
D - hard to see him being physically strong enough to play inside midfield at AFL level. No potential as a flanker.

D is an extremely harsh rating here, compared to what you’ve given the other guys you’ve listed. Don’t think he lacks much physicality at all.

Agree he has elite endurance. Could be that hard running midfielder in the mould of a Max Holmes.

 

[dinnaz]

I can live with and would actually pick (based on being thereabouts):
#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Farrow/Dovaston/Greeves/Onley
#34 Swadling
#41 Rodriguez/Sharkie

I have a sneaky suspicion that Riley Onley goes quite early & therefore it's 13 or bust for us here. Could be the best of the lot, Boom or Bust style.

IMO The SA guys, in particular Cumming, Marsh, Phillipou & Barker are all rated way too highly & to me and all seem 2nd round types. I would not want any of them where they are projected to be taken.

There are a number of academy guys I would bid on, early ones obviously but also second round area (30 odd) if we had something there in case of trading down. Carmichael, Prindable.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

I can live with and would actually pick (based on being thereabouts):
#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Farrow/Dovaston/Greeves/Onley
#34 Swadling
#41 Rodriguez/Sharkie

I have a sneaky suspicion that Riley Onley goes quite early & therefore it's 13 or bust for us here. Could be the best of the lot, Boom or Bust style.

IMO The SA guys, in particular Cumming, Marsh, Phillipou & Barker are all rated way too highly & to me and all seem 2nd round types. I would not want any of them where they are projected to be taken.

There are a number of academy guys I would bid on, early ones obviously but also second round area (30 odd) if we had something there in case of trading down. Carmichael, Prindable.

What makes you think that some of the best players from the team that won the champs despite having the smallest talent pool are overrated?

 

[Avalor]

I would be very happy with Onley at 13, or if we can snare an even earlier pick, like 9. 195 cm and runs like the wind, that's a scary prospect as a midfielder. He knows his craft too. Is physical, what's not to like?

 

[RookiePick]

Didnt hear the interview. But i think leon kickett was askd on radio whats one thing we dont know about one of your teammates. He said tylah williams likes to drink. I might be wrong.

In a tent perchance?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

I can live with and would actually pick (based on being thereabouts):
#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Farrow/Dovaston/Greeves/Onley
#34 Swadling
#41 Rodriguez/Sharkie

I have a sneaky suspicion that Riley Onley goes quite early & therefore it's 13 or bust for us here. Could be the best of the lot, Boom or Bust style.

IMO The SA guys, in particular Cumming, Marsh, Phillipou & Barker are all rated way too highly & to me and all seem 2nd round types. I would not want any of them where they are projected to be taken.

There are a number of academy guys I would bid on, early ones obviously but also second round area (30 odd) if we had something there in case of trading down. Carmichael, Prindable.

Wow. Puff your chest out and stand up. Great to read.

One tiny question. Did you see any of these SA over-rated players play live? I do not mean on TV, I mean going to the ground and seeing more than the 2 camera angles you get from the TV broadcast.

What is it about Onley that you would take him at 13? Again, well done on swimming against popular opinion, I applaud your stance.

 

[sharps24]

Would love to end up with Duursma, Sharp and Grjl.

Keen on this too but can't help but think Durusma, Sharp, Dovaston is probably more what we need. Will spew if we to have to choose between Dovaston and Grlj at our 3rd pick.

I'm comfortable with Duursma at 1 but still don't see him both becoming some superstar and being an Eagles for life, or alternatively having a decent career as a one club player while not being a superstar and still being worth more than Dovaston and Grlj. So I'd still sell pick 1&2 to Essendon and Carlton and take Sharp, Grlj, Dovaston, and buy a top 10 pick in next years draft with the last since we don't really have enough list spots to use 4 first round picks. Pass on Williams bid, match Banfield, and take Curtin if he slides deep because I've already packed Jack Williams bags in readyness for next trade period.

Of course it would be nice to take up to 6 players no matter what happens given a lot of WA talent to roll dice on this year, that'll probably all still around after we've used our 4th pick. But unfortunately. not as nice as watching Jamie Cripps add another 15 goals to his career total and put himself in a position to negotiate for a 2027 gig to get him to 300 games. If any of Curtin, Rodreigez, Walley or Evans ever become best 22 players on a list somewhere we'll still always have the memories of 2026 Crippa to comfort us, so all is good.

 

[Trebor57]

Pretty slow compared to CDT, who was faster than Grilj at the combine

Harley ran 2.96 at testing

Woweeee until its confirmed I won't brag about it. But that's a big ****ing deal.

Because then I can draw the conclusion and brag about the apparent reason why Dyson looks slow is he works too hard on the field.

IF that 2.96 time is true then I'm ready to admit that Sharp is the greatest prospect since Rowell. He has no knocks on his game if his athletic testing is like that.

U16 top 10 agility
U18 2.96 speed matching Harley

CDT's combine time for theh 20m was 2.92, so he was 3/100 of a second faster than Sharp. The fastest I could double tap to start and stop the stop watch on my phone was 11/100 of a second. If there was 3/100 of a second between 2 people sprinting 20m surely there would be barely any space between them?

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

I would be very happy with Onley at 13, or if we can snare an even earlier pick, like 9. 195 cm and runs like the wind, that's a scary prospect as a midfielder. He knows his craft too. Is physical, what's not to like?

I like Riley too, slid all the way to my second pick for Collingwood in the mock draft.

One thing I did notice reading up on him, is that despite his obvious standout traits, physicality is supposedly an area that needs improvement.

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Competitiveness
• Endurance

"Despite his size and power, Onley isn't necessarily a crash-and-bash type on the inside and could perhaps develop his physicality. He has the traits to be an imposing figure, so if he can add mongrel and greater defensive acts, it will go a long way to compounding his overall impact."

Now despite having said all of that, I still agree he could be very very good. Just wanted to point it out.

Anybody here seen him play live who could share some thoughts?

Riley Onley Draft Profile

Murray Bushrangers midfielder Riley Onley possesses power and speed at 195cm, providing a point of difference among this year's crop.

central.rookieme.com

 

[dinnaz]

What makes you think that some of the best players from the team that won the champs despite having the smallest talent pool are overrated?

The vics are generally selfish players, and win U18 champs based on overwhelming talent.
This year SA belted us rightly so, and in general got on a roll playing every game consecutively. I think they just peaked and played team footy.
Schubert & Sharp are the real deal IMO, with an even effort spread amongst the others. (The big red flag on Sharp, being that outside the champs he was better last year at every other level)

 

[dinnaz]

Wow. Puff your chest out and stand up. Great to read.

I'm flat chested, perve

One tiny question. Did you see any of these SA over-rated players play live? I do not mean on TV, I mean going to the ground and seeing more than the 2 camera angles you get from the TV broadcast.

SA didn't come to WA so no. I only got to the Lathlain game vs Vic C, & decided going on a bender and sleeping on the sidewalk sounded better than going to Fremantle on a Sunday.

What is it about Onley that you would take him at 13? Again, well done on swimming against popular opinion, I applaud your stance.

*I'd still prefer Farrow at 13

The comically long arms dishing off handballs is mostly what i'm here for. Otherwise wins the pill, is big, strong and quick and has had a decent enough season before being hidden away. Kicking needs ironing out though. Resembles Ginbey in a lot of ways except endurance & without all the froth coming out of his mouth.

The fact we pissed away our picks 16,22,23 means a slight reach as i'm getting a vibe that another club will go earlier than telegraphed. Perhaps #16-#22 (Adelaide, Geelong, Essendon or Hawthorn).

 

[uptheWC]

I can live with and would actually pick (based on being thereabouts):
#1 Duursma
#2 CDT
#13 Farrow/Dovaston/Greeves/Onley
#34 Swadling
#41 Rodriguez/Sharkie

This but Sharp over CDT

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

SA didn't come to WA so no. I only got to the Lathlain game vs Vic C, & decided going on a bender and sleeping on the sidewalk sounded better than going to Fremantle on a Sunday.

Not sure how the hell you can make such bold statements about over rated SA talent when you have never seen them play. I suggest we leave it for now but I will earmark your post to see how over 70 professional recruiters who actually watch the games live go against your grand statements come draft night.

I’m hearing the opposite from a few of my contacts who are still active in U18 football.

 

[thebutterflyeffect]

Not sure how the hell you can make such bold statements about over rated SA talent when you have never seen them play. I suggest we leave it for now but I will earmark your post to see how over 70 professional recruiters who actually watch the games live go against your grand statements come draft night.

I’m hearing the opposite from a few of my contacts who are still active in U18 football.

Curious as I'm not a draft watcher but where do your contacts rate Sharp?

From reading this thread seems like there is a feel he is basically a sure thing as the next Patrick Cripps/Tom Green whereas the other likely pick 2 candidates are super high risk and are far more likely than DS to be busts.

 

[eaglevision]

I like Riley too, slid all the way to my second pick for Collingwood in the mock draft.

One thing I did notice reading up on him, is that despite his obvious standout traits, physicality is supposedly an area that needs improvement.

IMPROVEMENTS:

• Competitiveness
• Endurance

"Despite his size and power, Onley isn't necessarily a crash-and-bash type on the inside and could perhaps develop his physicality. He has the traits to be an imposing figure, so if he can add mongrel and greater defensive acts, it will go a long way to compounding his overall impact."

Now despite having said all of that, I still agree he could be very very good. Just wanted to point it out.

Anybody here seen him play live who could share some thoughts?

Riley Onley Draft Profile

Murray Bushrangers midfielder Riley Onley possesses power and speed at 195cm, providing a point of difference among this year's crop.

central.rookieme.com

Onley is also a very ordinary kick and lacks composure as well as limited athletic capacity. Not a great mix. If we don’t care about kicking I’d rather Dalton who has both inside/outside game and is the best runner in the class.

 

[Elite Pete]

That’s what we want to hear.