List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[bzparkes]

Who would you rather - Sam Swadling or Charlie Banfield because if we draft Swadling we may not have a list spot to match a bid on Banfield if one comes

Personally I’d prefer Banfield

Definitely Banfield.

 

[BSD]

I like it and if Clarke can pull that off he deserves a statue- I have doubts that the other clubs do those trades
• Essendon need to be massively into CDT to consider that trade. The reasons it looks good for us are the same reasons why they keep what they have
• Adelaide and Sydney don’t really need extra picks and like all clubs are going to be reluctant to trade future picks into this year - it’s becoming pretty clear clubs aren’t enthusiastic about this draft and with the revised bid matching rules on the horizon I don’t see many clubs shifting their 2026 picks

But if all that happens it’s pretty close to a dream result

As a footnote, you’ve got Cripps on the rookie list but we have the 5 main list spots needed in your scenario without shifting him - so we’d have an extra rookie spot which I’d be looking to fill with someone like Blamires, Murdoch, Clohesy or Mac

He's a woefully bad kick and would need to completely change his kicking to play at AFL level. That's according to Mick Ablett.

Some of the so called experts have claimed you can't change their kicking style after they are 16.

Would you take F-Rod before him as he is supposed to be a good kick with either foot.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

Drafting players to be depth for our WAFL side is everything that is wrong with that setup. I mean it's good having these extra spots but for it to make sure we don't get flogged in the WAFL is just stupid.

I mean yes - but ideally we're not drafting them purely for WAFL depth. While playing WAFL may be a reality for em' hopefully we're targeting those with potential upside that can support the AFL team as needed.

 

[Broken_Chairs]

I'm taking the wild approach this draft to just sit back and trust the recruitment team.

They did a stellar job last year , so no reason not to back' em in this year.

Even ROB's last draft with us yielded H Reid, A Ried & Hall.

If they want to keep our picks locked in, trade up, down or into the future - whatever go for it, they must have a plan and targets in mind.

The only unforgivable would be if we have no interest in Duursma (unlikely) and choose not to trade pick 1.

 

[ziad]

Hopefully we do know the inside story there.

Did read a post or two saying it was understood why he has dropped off in 2025 and it isnt a long term issue. They expect him to have recovered by 2026.

Mild OP?

Mild glandular fever?

Growing pains.........?

If the Eagles rate him around the mid 30s .... 40s I'll trust our call. We do know how to land decent talls from WA, as we should.

I kneo two, well who had clan dualr fever. One out for 18 months and the other back in training after two weeks. OP???

 

[Obeanie1]

I kneo two, well who had clan dualr fever. One out for 18 months and the other back in training after two weeks. OP???

The kissing disease.....that's what they call it.

 

[FatPizza]

I'm taking the wild approach this draft to just sit back and trust the recruitment team.

They did a stellar job last year , so no reason not to back' em in this year.

Even ROB's last draft with us yielded H Reid, A Ried & Hall.

If they want to keep our picks locked in, trade up, down or into the future - whatever go for it, they must have a plan and targets in mind.

The only unforgivable would be if we have no interest in Duursma (unlikely) and choose not to trade pick 1.

Didn't you know? Allan's apparently a bust already.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Let's hope this boy lasts until 34, Ollie Dempsey type.

Won't but one could hope.

 

[CountryLad]

He's a woefully bad kick and would need to completely change his kicking to play at AFL level. That's according to Mick Ablett.

All due respect to Ablett he’s been involved in the business for a long period of time but that’s an exaggeration. His kicking isn’t his strong point but I’d aslo point out that if you get it 40 times in a game you are going to make some mistakes.
Have a look below and make your own opinion.

 

[Corkintheocean]

I'm taking the wild approach this draft to just sit back and trust the recruitment team.

They did a stellar job last year , so no reason not to back' em in this year.

Even ROB's last draft with us yielded H Reid, A Ried & Hall.

If they want to keep our picks locked in, trade up, down or into the future - whatever go for it, they must have a plan and targets in mind.

The only unforgivable would be if we have no interest in Duursma (unlikely) and choose not to trade pick 1.

 

[bzparkes]

All due respect to Ablett he’s been involved in the business for a long period of time but that an exaggeration. His kicking isn’t his strong point but I’d aslo point out that if you get it 40 times in a game you are going to make some mistakes.
Have a look below and make your own opinion.

I presume he's just going off comments from those in draft circles. Was on his interview with Gossage a few weeks back. Said people were concerned over his action and that it's taken a lot of effort to re-train him to kick, or something to that effect.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

We have 4 extra rookie spots, if you think this assistance package is so we can go deeper in the rookie draft in the hope we unearth a talent, you're taking the wrong approach.

We have a very young team that needs development which won't happen if the Beagles are getting flogged every week. Drafting players for depth - be it someone like Blamires from the VFL or giving a delisted player a second shot (Schoenberg, Hobbs, Berry, Blight) - will add more value to our developing side while also probably having a better chance at success than a late rookie draft pick from a shallow draft.

2 of the spots will go to Evans & Walley. The other 2 should be 2 players that we delist and re-rookie if still available.
This will allow us to draft 3 + match bids on Williams & Banfield, plus draft 1-2 sliders dependant on bids. Basically have 6 main list spots free for the draft. Better than drafting Beagles players to fill up vacant rookie spots.

 

[Underdog]

All due respect to Ablett he’s been involved in the business for a long period of time but that an exaggeration. His kicking isn’t his strong point but I’d aslo point out that if you get it 40 times in a game you are going to make some mistakes.
Have a look below and make your own opinion.

He looks pretty upright when he kicks which causes a bit of loop and uncontrolled ball drop at times but he's pretty slick by hands and in transition.

I'm concerned that he's a bit flappy in static/low-speed congestion though. He doesn't look to have the ability or confidence to evade in these situations and seemingly rushes disposal to avoid contact.

Of course, recruiters don't base everything on 7 minutes of footage

 

[uptheWC]

Who would you rather - Sam Swadling or Charlie Banfield because if we draft Swadling we may not have a list spot to match a bid on Banfield if one comes

Personally I’d prefer Banfield

Swadling is a better player than any of our nga/fs this year - But they get the most discussion as we have priority access to them.

In saying that, I definitely want both Swadling and Banfield on our list.

 

[bzparkes]

The only unforgivable would be if we have no interest in Duursma (unlikely) and choose not to trade pick 1.

Very little danger of that happening, I imagine.

Over on the D&T board, posters were saying a few months ago that WCE were heavily into him even then. I can only imagine they'd be even more locked in now.

 

[Astro7]

Not sure if already posted ...interesting about Daicos and Waterman.

 

[TheBudgies]

All due respect to Ablett he’s been involved in the business for a long period of time but that’s an exaggeration. His kicking isn’t his strong point but I’d aslo point out that if you get it 40 times in a game you are going to make some mistakes.
Have a look below and make your own opinion.

Doesn't seem to be super damaging generally. But otherwise yes I agree. Although I dont see him making it to the midfield at AFL level. He'll be a high-possession zone-off half back flank.

Ablett is a bit too obsessed with mechanics in my view and a little too cookie cutter. 'Anything outside this framework is bad', often right but not infallible in such a dynamic sport.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

No idea what your point is.

Reason I want 6 or 7 spots is for the first 3 picks, then to match bids on Evans, Williams, BB and have a spot in case someone we really rate falls.

If the 3 guys don’t get bids all good get them on the rookie list, but the flexibility in the draft is key.

As for your trade GC themselves need to consolidate picks so won’t be doing that.

We could actually just upgrade players to the main list if plan A you said doesnt work now I think about it so im probably wrong on my logic there

 

[eaglevision]

I like it and if Clarke can pull that off he deserves a statue- I have doubts that the other clubs do those trades
• Essendon need to be massively into CDT to consider that trade. The reasons it looks good for us are the same reasons why they keep what they have
• Adelaide and Sydney don’t really need extra picks and like all clubs are going to be reluctant to trade future picks into this year - it’s becoming pretty clear clubs aren’t enthusiastic about this draft and with the revised bid matching rules on the horizon I don’t see many clubs shifting their 2026 picks

But if all that happens it’s pretty close to a dream result

As a footnote, you’ve got Cripps on the rookie list but we have the 5 main list spots needed in your scenario without shifting him - so we’d have an extra rookie spot which I’d be looking to fill with someone like Blamires, Murdoch, Clohesy or Macrae.

I selected the Swans and Crows carefully but obviously the best two F2s we can get our hands on would be ideal.

Max King may attract a 1R bid and they have two more academy kids. I doubt they’d be keen to go into deficit after giving up their next 3x1R picks for Curnow.

Adelaide could also use a pick around that mark for two reasons:

1/ Draft Cody Curtin to pair him with Dan (16 is too early)

2/ Couple it with pick 16 and 48 to move up the order and draft Jevan Phillipou.

The Cripps list spot depends on the fate of Maric and Hutchinson and whether they are or are not on the main list. However they have or intend to juggle it, sounds like there are or will be 33 main list spots taken.

As my own footnote, I made the comment privately that Clarke’s list management has actually been pretty good, it’s the trading that has me at Bunnings buying a can of red paint in case this statue you speak of is ever erected.

 

[CountryLad]

Doesn't seem to be super damaging generally. But otherwise yes I agree. Although I dont see him making it to the midfield at AFL level. He'll be a high-possession zone-off half back flank.

Ablett is a bit too obsessed with mechanics in my view and a little too cookie cutter. 'Anything outside this framework is bad', often right but not infallible in such a dynamic sport.

He’s definitely more of a death by 1000 cuts type than ripping the game apart in 20 mins of football.

 

[Obeanie1]

Swadling is a better player than any of our nga/fs this year - But they get the most discussion as we have priority access to them.

In saying that, I definitely want both Swadling and Banfield on our list.

Yep. 100%.

Need to be careful we don't over value our NGA kids just because we have priority access.

 

[mitchzz]

Would personally much prefer Swadling over Banfield. But would like both.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

We could actually just upgrade players to the main list if plan A you said doesnt work now I think about it so im probably wrong on my logic there

We only have 4 main list spots available atm, so we can't draft anymore than that including matched bids. If noone bids on Banfield & Williams etc, then it's all good, but there's no way to be sure if they will be. So better to be safe than sorry.

 

[txbyhull]

So if we take Duursma and CDT at 1 and 2, who is everyone taking at 13? Who's the best pure mid likely to be available at that pick?

There honestly isn’t that many. Pure mid? Addinsall, Oudshoorn-Bennier both come to mind but they’re not likely until late teens early 20s

 

[CountryLad]

Would personally much prefer Swadling over Banfield. But would like both.

Just my last bit on Swadling. I compared him a little to Warner in his draft year and no one really has picked up on it yet.

Similar numbers, both dominant in the colts, both a little quieter in the state games. Both viewed as third round prospects due to a lack of pace and kicking ability.

Rookie me haven’t done Swadlings player profile yet but it will read pretty similar to this but with better stats.

Chad Warner Draft Profile

DRAFT ANALYSIS: “A hard-working medium-sized midfielder who thrives on the contested side of the game.”

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