List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

If Sharp ends up being a blend of Dunkley and Rowell, yes please.

Might want to temper those lofty expectations. Dunkley, sure I can see a world where you can compare those two but Rowell is in a different category of athlete entirely. I think some people are forgetting just how hyped Rowell was in his draft year. Until Harley, I had seen nothing like it.

 

[Coasters7]

Getting the ball is Sharp's one wood but it isn't the only thing he can do. Josh Dunkley can rack up possessions himself. Brisbane just happen to be better when Neale, McCluggage, Ashcroft, etc. get their hands on it as well.

You said it yourself though. There’s a reason Dunkley is the first one that sacrifices his game instead of those other names.

What does Sharp become if he’s not Green, Dunkley or Rowell?

Sam Cumming for example, has scope to just become an elite half forward in the Zac Bailey mould or an elite inside mid. Whereas Sharp either makes it as an inside mid or will be a bit of a tweener on a flank somewhere.

 

[Keys]

With our current picks, the best available player at each of those picks could conceivably be Duursma, CDT and Farrow

If that is the trio of players we walk out of the draft with given our midfield needs, it would be a tad underwhelming

Both of those things can be true and it’s a challenge for our recruiters/list management as to how we best navigate the draft with the hand we currently hold

 

[Barrybran]

You said it yourself though. There’s a reason Dunkley is the first one that sacrifices his game instead of those other names.

What does Sharp become if he’s not Green, Dunkley or Rowell?

Sam Cumming for example, has scope to just become an elite half forward in the Zac Bailey mould or an elite inside mid. Whereas Sharp either makes it as an inside mid or will be a bit of a tweener on a flank somewhere.

That's fair. That's also why some have suggested taking Cumming at 2.

 

[WCE777]

What is a “contested midfielder” though? Zak Butters and Hugh McCluggage both averaged more tackles, contested possessions, and clearances than Josh Dunkley (many comparing Sharp to him) this year.

The game is moving past the one dimensional types. Everyone needs to be able to win their own ball these days. Having a guy who’s sole job it is to win the ball and handball it to teammates (ala Priddis) is a thing of the past.

If you think Sharp is 1 dimensional I suggest you go and looks at his SANFL Elimination Final he played in a month ago against men and see where he sits in the midfield stakes.
I obviously have different opinion's to you and that's fine, I will stand by my comments that he is the best inside mid/contested mid for several years.

 

[Mr Q]

Sure and the only first rounder we had in the midfield that grand final was Chris Masten, who was recruited as an inside mid but didn't have the physical attributes to do it at AFL level, which may end up being the case with Sharp.

I'd have to point out Luke Shuey was a first rounder (#18) and as I recall he had a reasonable game in the midfield that day.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

I'd have to point out Luke Shuey was a first rounder (#18) and as I recall he had a reasonable game in the midfield that day.

And Sheed, who won us the game.

 

[Weshi]

Oh stallon wants us to kick that can down the road and either get someone later in this draft, or try again in next years draft, or the draft after that, or the draft after that, or the draft after that.

Just like we have done for the last decade with out success with mids with later picks - players like:

O'Neil, Partington, Ainsworth, Cully, Winder, Trew, Edwards, Brayshaw, Colledge, Tunbridge, Burgiel, Mutimer

Hows that worked out, for us ?

Some people value contested midfielders some people don't.

I think it's really clear where stallon sits on that one.

To be fair you could just as easy put up a list of mid to later draft picks that have been successful, Neale, Newcombe...(on my second rum so I'll leave it there)
Just not our picks!

 

[Shueygod]

How has either Robey or CDT proved they're worth pick 2 anymore than sharp.

Robey done nothing. Came from nowhere, played a handful of games, showed some talent and everyone's losing there minds. Tested shit at the combine (and there is a reason for that) so unlikely will be able to go full mid anytime soon.

CDT is what? 300 posts arguing that says everything.

With a top 3 pick I want a bloke that could be in the top 20 players in the competition, CDT and Robey are that. Sharp isn’t.

You don’t think Robeys broken collarbone had anything to do with the poor testing?

 

[eaglevision]

With our current picks, the best available player at each of those picks could conceivably be Duursma, CDT and Farrow

If that is the trio of players we walk out of the draft with given our midfield needs, it would be a tad underwhelming

Both of those things can be true and it’s a challenge for our recruiters/list management as to how we best navigate the draft with the hand we currently hold

This is the result many are afraid of.

 

[Shueygod]

Pretty funny that it’s largely the same blokes that were crying about trading down and missing out on the top talent that now want us to trade down/reach for Sharp at 2.

 

[RustyShacklefordFalcon]

Some underrating of Farrow going on around here, he's already a good player and has a huge ceiling.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

What are the main points of difference between Farrow and Allan? Farrow a better kick but a bit less physical?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

With our current picks, the best available player at each of those picks could conceivably be Duursma, CDT and Farrow

If that is the trio of players we walk out of the draft with given our midfield needs, it would be a tad underwhelming

Both of those things can be true and it’s a challenge for our recruiters/list management as to how we best navigate the draft with the hand we currently hold

Get a gun mid with a top three pick next year in a stronger draft of none of the elite players this year are mids.

 

[Monocle]

To be fair you could just as easy put up a list of mid to later draft picks that have been successful, Neale, Newcombe...(on my second rum so I'll leave it there)
Just not our picks!

I am putting up what our Club has done, not what other Clubs have done, it's not about fairness it about "facts" and looking at which recruiting teams can pick them and our hasn't been able to do so and thats my point.

What you have posted with names like Neale, Newcombe just highlight our recruiters inability to recognise good midfield talent with latter picks, whereas other Clubs manage to find them far more frequently than our recruiters have.

Our recruiters have been amazingly good at picking tall's later in the draft, but wouldn't recognise a decent midfielder later in the draft, if it bit them on the arse.

I and a few others have been critical over the years and highlighted our recruiters "blind spot", other posters have defended them by excusing them because they haven't had top 10 picks to draft quality midfielders.

Well, no excuses now, because we have got some high quality draft capital to use to address our achilles heal, whether we chose do so, or not, remains to be seen.

 

[sharps24]

Haven't been following thread or media this week but I've cooled on Duursma at 1 and was hearing we are thinking of bidding on Dean with pick 2. Don't mind it as the basis of a shake up in thinking that will be irrelevant within the week as currents change.

I'm trading 1 and 13 to Essendon for 5,6, 21. Extracting 9 and 10 out of Carlton for 2 with the Dean blackmail.

Taking Sharp, Dovaston, Grlj, Farrow/Mitch Marsh and 5.6.9.10. Cody Curtin at 21. Banfield. Done. Hate a split usually but hate our options at 1 and 2 more, all our list needs are past pick 5 so might as well turn 3 picks in the top 13 into 4 in the top 10 and a 2nd rounder.

Only taking NGA kids to the rookie list, most probably they all get bids and good luck to them. Hopefully Evans slides. Sharp and Dovaston are my 2 main list needs and Grlj is the mid with the most upside to me further down the order. Personally don't think we need another tall on the list but I wouldn't be opposed to taking someone to develop into a key back, not sure Mitch Marsh is the guy but also not sure what we do with Archer Reid as of yet so who knows. Don't really need more mids after adding Sharp and Grlj to what we already have but Farrow is a WA boy and could settle at half back, I prefer to think Bo Allan plays mid. I'm massive on Charlie Banfield making our first mid rotation within short order too, could be happy trading out pick 10 to next years draft and taking one less.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

With Dean a possibility now, take Duursma with our first pick at 5 after 4 bids

 

[bzparkes]

I'd have to point out Luke Shuey was a first rounder (#18) and as I recall he had a reasonable game in the midfield that day.

True but he was a PP and pick #20. Everyone cracked the shits because Melbourne took Blease one pick earlier, also a PP.

 

[Eastcoasteagle]

Sharp seems like a weird fit for the Dees. Leg speed would be an issue Steele, Viney and Langford ain’t the quickest player.

I can see Bombers taking Sharp but agree that less so for dees.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Get used to Robey at #2 as there's a couple of new phantoms getting around on Youtube that have us taking him. Everyone will be jumping on.

If our list manager has done his due diligence, we won't be taking Robey at 2

 

[Wooshaaaa]

With our current picks, the best available player at each of those picks could conceivably be Duursma, CDT and Farrow

If that is the trio of players we walk out of the draft with given our midfield needs, it would be a tad underwhelming

Both of those things can be true and it’s a challenge for our recruiters/list management as to how we best navigate the draft with the hand we currently hold

Then there's no point holding those picks.
A ****in tad underwhelming.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Who's helping Harley.

WEST COAST EAGLES


List chasm: Midfield support

To the surprise of no one, Harley Reid can’t do it all himself in the middle of the ground — at least, not this early in his career. The Eagles struggled mightily in the guts without the reliable presence of veteran ball-winner Elliot Yeo

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Elliot Yeo

Age

32

Ht

191cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

19.5

5star

K

11.7

4star

HB

7.8

5star

M

4.6

4star

T

4.5

5star

CL

3.0

4star

D

18.9

4star

K

10.9

4star

HB

8.0

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

5.8

5star

CL

5.5

5star

D

16.6

4star

K

9.4

4star

HB

7.2

5star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.6

3star

CL

1.4

4star

— who the club will be hoping can get back on the park next year — and the stark form drop-off of 2019 All-Australian Tim Kelly

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Tim Kelly

Age

31

Ht

184cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.6

5star

K

13.5

5star

HB

10.1

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.0

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

19.9

5star

K

12.3

5star

HB

7.6

4star

M

3.1

3star

T

4.7

5star

CL

3.6

4star

D

21.6

5star

K

10.4

4star

HB

11.2

5star

M

2.8

3star

T

3.8

5star

CL

3.8

5star

. The Eagles are expected to sign former Brisbane midfielder Deven Robertson

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Deven Robertson

Age

24

Ht

185cm

Wt

84kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

1star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

4star

CL

0.0

1star

D

7.0

2star

K

3.0

1star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.0

1star

T

3.0

5star

CL

0.0

1star

as a delisted free agent in a move that would add a seasoned, ready-made body to an engine room in need of just that. Further, it would shock most pundits if West Coast didn’t stand pat and draft highly-touted ball-winner Willem Duursma — this class’ best prospect — to add to its young midfield brigade. Greater output from the middle portion of the ground is crucial if the Eagles are to improve on their all-time-worst 1-22 campaign.

Get it campaigners

 

[stallon]

Oh stallon wants us to kick that can down the road and either get someone later in this draft, or try again in next years draft, or the draft after that, or the draft after that, or the draft after that.

Just like we have done for the last decade with out success with mids with later picks - players like:

O'Neil, Partington, Ainsworth, Cully, Winder, Trew, Edwards, Brayshaw, Colledge, Tunbridge, Burgiel, Mutimer

Hows that worked out, for us ?

Some people value contested midfielders some people don't.

Thats not what I said at all. You can be contested but still be a more attacking player than Sharp

I think it's really clear where stallon sits on that one.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

Sam Cumming > Dyson Sharp

 

[stallon]

You just completely contradicted yourself from one sentence to the next. Sharp as a package does all that long term.

I didnt contradict myself at all, lol

Someone like Robey fills the contested ball side - as much as many may not like to admit.
We can find any random plodder to be a defensive mid for us, most clubs have some random relatively low talent player doing that role