List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Draft prospect video highlights (thanks to noobermensch)

Rookie Me Central 2025 Draft Guide

2025 AFL Draft Guide

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Matthew Clarke on Gettable 17/11

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[bzparkes]

Does this just mean whether we've nominated them and if the players accept, so we'll have to list them as cat b rookies if they don't get bid on in the ND? I think we can still make the decision to match them or not on the night(s).

Correct. It means we have the option. Clubs normally do, although Swans didn't with Joel Cochrane last year.

 

[pantskyle]

GETTABLE: HUGE draft preview, the clubs trading picks, who goes where in the top-10

Cal Twomey and Riley Beveridge discuss the key clubs with top 10 draft picks, answer your questions and more

www.afl.com.au

From this mornings episode of Gettable. Eagles are discussed straight off the top of the show. The typical talking points going into this years draft, Cal saying everyone knows they're taking Duff-ma (Duursma and Duff-Tytler for the uninitiated) BUT SHOULD THEY trade pick 2 and take two mids instead since that's where they're most deficient?! And talk of Carlton's pick 9 got floated in by Cal as well.

Still think we're dangling that CDT carrot, yes we would take him if we get no bites as best available but the option if available for a club who really wants him to make a move.

 

[Keys]

Interesting part of what Twomey had to say was that there’s some uncertainty on whether we take CDT given that we need midfield help so Sharp and Robey might be a consideration. Seemed less equivocal that we take Duff-Tytler and mentioned other clubs think we might pass on him

Also believes Essendon still looking at trading up and that Carlton’s pick 9 is still a target for us

Thinks we may bid on Uwland

 

[mattyc75]

Midfield is our biggest need because the best sides have genuine depth running through there and we have none. And whilst McQualter regularly states he doesn’t focus on stats the fact remains we don’t have anyone capable of averaging 25+ disposals per game like other sides do

In short we need a ball pig and Sharp looks the most likely from this draft to be that player. Problem being his ranking on talent doesn’t quite align with where our draft picks sit - he’s not in the top 2 and he’s better than pick 13

Behind Duursma, Sharp (or Cumming) fit our needs best whilst CDT is the highest rated talent who notionally fills our need for a ruckman but has genuine question marks on whether he can be that player and/or how long he takes to get there

Take Duursma, then bid on Annable as a minimum and possibly Uwland and Patterson as well

I’d be hoping we get something from one of Essendon, Richmond or Melbourne to turn our heads for pick 2 albeit that seems unlikely at the moment. I’d seriously consider accepting Essendon’s F2 to slide back from 2 to 5 along with 34 for 27 which would then help considerably in extracting pick 9 from Carlton for pick 13

Best case scenario now I feel is Duursma, CDT and trading up to Carlton’s pick 9 in the hope Sharp slides a little. That would be a very good haul if it fell that way

Dovaston then Grlj would be my preference if Sharp is off the board. If we can’t trade up to pick 9 then Farrow, or perhaps Lindsay, is probably the best option likely to still be available

Option 1:
1,2,13 - Duursma, CDT, Farrow (or Lindsay)

Option 2:
1,2,9 - Duursma, CDT, Sharp (or Dovaston)

Option 3:
1,5,13 - Duursma, Sharp (or Cumming), Farrow (or Lindsay)

Option 4:
1,5,9 - Duursma, Sharp, Dovaston or Duursma, Cumming, Sharp

Hope for option 4 but expect option 1 which I think outside this board would be viewed favourably - the best two talents overall and the best locally based player

Im liking both option 4s.hoping we stay away from underperformed unicorns and HBFers

 

[random260]

Interesting part of what Twomey had to say was that there’s some uncertainty on whether we take CDT given that we need midfield help so Sharp and Robey might be a consideration. Seemed less equivocal that we take Duff-Tytler and mentioned other clubs think we might pass on him

Also believes Essendon still looking at trading up and that Carlton’s pick 9 is still a target for us

Thinks we may bid on Uwland

Looks like the leaking has started. Excellent. Soon the wheels will start to turn with the realisation of Dyson in blue and gold.

 

[Bleedblueandgold]

Looks like the leaking has started. Excellent. Soon the wheels will start to turn with the realisation of Dyson in blue and gold.

If teams want to trade up and we'd like to split pick 2 it won't help if they know we want to take Sharp. Splitting could leave us with Duursma, Sharp, Grlj/Cumming. Probably still unlikely that teams will offer it.

 

[Elite Pete]

Interesting part of what Twomey had to say was that there’s some uncertainty on whether we take CDT given that we need midfield help so Sharp and Robey might be a consideration. Seemed less equivocal that we take Duff-Tytler and mentioned other clubs think we might pass on him

Also believes Essendon still looking at trading up and that Carlton’s pick 9 is still a target for us

Thinks we may bid on Uwland

Expects Finn Macrae and Dev both to be added as rookie list.

Crows seem to be a buyer for pick 9? Interesting as it will likely cost a F1. No trade for pick 9 or 11 before the draft though.

Tylar Williams bid expected to come end of first round.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

The CDT arguments too:

1. Ruckmen are over-rated just need someone to compete
2. CDT isnt an elite tap ruckman so hes no good to us??

You've misrepresented the boards position completely.

1. Ruckmen at a minimum need to be able to compete and negate the opposition ruck such that they don't spoon feed their midfield.
2. CDT hasn't shown he can compete in the ruck against AFL level talent, and genuine concerns he won't be able to slow AFL level rucks from having their way in the hitouts.

 

[Elite Pete]

Does this just mean whether we've nominated them and if the players accept, so we'll have to list them as cat b rookies if they don't get bid on in the ND? I think we can still make the decision to match them or not on the night(s).

Yep. Just still gives us the decision. You’d expect all 4 to be nominated because even if we want Walley as a Cat b option I’d assume he has to be nominated?

 

[Keys]

Expects Finn Macrae and Dev both to be added as rookie list.

Crows seem to be a buyer for pick 9? Interesting as it will likely cost a F1. No trade for pick 9 or 11 before the draft though.

Tylar Williams bid expected to come end of first round.

The other thing was that he didn’t really mention any strong links to Schubert among the first 4 clubs - tentatively put his name up as a possibility for Melbourne

If we don’t take CDT, it could be possible that Schubert is available at our third pick which I hadn’t previously considered as an option

 

[Citizen Erazed]

Is CDT a Jackson breed of unicorn, or a Nik Cox breed.

One is running at Flemington and the other is feeding dogs.

 

[Couchpotato]

For the draft watchers - Gettable has Thredgold from SA as the best KPD in the draft. Does he last until pick our 34, or do we need to target an earlier pick (given 13 I assume is too early for him)? GC pick 18 perhaps?

Especially if we go Duursma & Sharp, I think our next 2 picks are talls and I think we need a young KPD developing under Brock, Edwards & Young.

 

[Elite Pete]

The other thing was that he didn’t really mention any strong links to Schubert among the first 4 clubs - tentatively put his name up as a possibility for Melbourne

If we don’t take CDT, it could be possible that Schubert is available at our third pick which I hadn’t previously considered as an option

Yeah. Doubt the Hawks go for a tall. Crows if they get that pick 9 and Cumming and Sharp are gone is a chance maybe.

I think the Dees go a mid and a tall.

GWS linked to Oskar Taylor do they pull the trigger at 12? Seems like the trade up was a weird move then. Giants do some weird stuff though

 

[Weshi]

In the end it doesn't really matter who/where they get drafted, it all comes down to picking more that succeed than fail.
Talent alone doesn't define success, it requires a bit of good luck and most importantly a desire to push your limits.

 

[Barrybran]

Yeah. Doubt the Hawks go for a tall. Crows if they get that pick 9 and Cumming and Sharp are gone is a chance maybe.

I think the Dees go a mid and a tall.

GWS linked to Oskar Taylor do they pull the trigger at 12? Seems like the trade up was a weird move then. Giants do some weird stuff though

Crows wanting pick 9 suggests Sharp could be available there. He fills their biggest need.

I agree with Melbourne taking a mid and a tall - Schubert and whoever of Grjl/Farrow slides through - which is how Sharp gets to 9 (I don't think they pair Sharp with Langford).

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Still think we're dangling that CDT carrot, yes we would take him if we get no bites as best available but the option if available for a club who really wants him to make a move.

Cal saying CDT definitely taken by Tigers if we pass.

So the carrot is real. It’s the Bombers or Tigers as key bidders.

 

[Wooshaaaa]

Cal saying CDT definitely taken by Tigers if we pass.

So the carrot is real. It’s the Bombers or Tigers as key bidders.

And if we took sharp at 2 and tigers took CDT and Robey.the dons are left with the next batch. I recon they want one of CDT and Robey. They'll come for 2.

 

[Avalor]

Yeah. Doubt the Hawks go for a tall. Crows if they get that pick 9 and Cumming and Sharp are gone is a chance maybe.

I think the Dees go a mid and a tall.

GWS linked to Oskar Taylor do they pull the trigger at 12? Seems like the trade up was a weird move then. Giants do some weird stuff though

I rate Oscar Taylor highly.

 

[WCE777]

And if we took sharp at 2 and tigers took CDT and Robey.the dons are left with the next batch. I recon they want one of CDT and Robey. They'll come for 2.

I think you are both correct on the interest from ESS & RICH for pick 2 and it will be for either CDT or Robey.
Reading between the lines and the unknown talk with Cal tells me we are dangling the carrot of pick 2 and are not playing our hand of who we want after Duursma.
This seems to take us back to weeks ago and after trade period that pick 2 is available for the right price if we can get our targets.

Duursma pick 1.

Pick 2 & 13 to ESS for 5 & 6 plus some extra like a F2nd to make it worthwile for WC, that's 10% premium for pick 2 which would be acceptable if we get our targets at picks 5 & 6.

Sharp & Cumming at picks 5 & 6.
Leaves us 34, 41, 53, 58 to take a slider or tall at 34/41 if no bids for Williams before then.

Interesting that Cal thinks clubs are rating Williams around the 20-25 area??
If that happens at pick 25 worst case, that will eat up picks 34 & 41 and the 10% discount for NGA and 80 points for 2nd round on discount should get us 130 points back being pick 46 if I have that worked out correctly??

Stiil think we will take a tall at 1 of those picks or slider if Curtin is taken.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

And if we took sharp at 2 and tigers took CDT and Robey.the dons are left with the next batch. I recon they want one of CDT and Robey. They'll come for 2.

Yep, as mapped out here a while back. Ideally:

2 for 3 and a F2 (tigers do this to take CDT or Robey and stop Essendon)
3 for 5 and a F2 (Essendon do this to get whoever is left of CDT/Robey and avoid missing out on both)

Would mean would have picks ~2 (we finish second last), ~19 (Tigers last), ~20 (us), ~21 (Bombers third last) next year.

If Tigers don't want to do that first trade then 2 and 13 for 5 and 6 (another whatever other minor shuffles required) comes back into play so that Essendon can have first choice on CDT/Robey and guarantee themselves one of them.

 

[random260]

Looks like the leaking has started. Excellent. Soon the wheels will start to turn with the realisation of Dyson in blue and gold.

I have just watched the Gettable. Yeah somebody clearly fed him what I wanted to hear. Completely new thought bubble Cal has

Cal got word that we have a mid problem and he acknowledged that for the first time. Cal literally is a mouthpiece for clubs. He said both Robby or Sharp is in the mix.

Now he acknowledged two mids. I reckon it might be Duursma (Mid 1) + Sharp (Mid 2)

There is no indication that Cal meant CDT or Split... He just said we may perhaps want two mids any permutation. We can rule out him meaning one of those mids at 13.


Boy oh boy. Is it heating up and turning faster then expected. I want a west Australian backpage of Dyson and I want it now!!!! Leak faster

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Cannot wait for random260 to break the internet when we pass on Sharp.

Will be a thing of absolute beauty.

 

[txbyhull]

But there is genuine A grade mids in this draft. Just ask Massey.

There isn’t. Sharp and Cumming for example would barely be top 10 in either of the last 2 years. There’s no Harley, Daicos calibre talent in the middle in this draft

 

[Byron_Clanger]

Sausage Gossage and Scotty had Duursma on this morning. Interview starts at 38:20 for people who don't want to wait around all day for SEN to edit their own version of the interview.

Apparently he's already mates with Maric, Hutchinson and Archer Reid as well as Harley so he's got no worries about moving over.

 

[amazingjoshy]

Finally spent half hour watching some highlights and can say from my very extensive research Im on team Sharp. Don't mind CDT as much as others seem to though. Robeys kicking looked like it could possibly be an issue (from 7mins of footage)

Def not claiming to know more than recruiters that have spent years watching these kids so will get behind whoever we decide on