List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

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Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

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[txbyhull]

They don't have to be a Daicos level pickup to be a worthwhile FS or NGA

Even then I feel as if Williams and Banfield are barely scratching the pass mark for worthwhile. Next year looks much much better

 

[amazingjoshy]

We may be happy with 2 or 3 players that we consider at a similar level so why not do a trade if some team is keen!

Can say the same for picks 9 and 13 though

Rather take our pick of the higher rated guys and guarantee we get who we want. A sacrifice of 2 to 5 is worth more than a jump of 13 to 9

 

[Godfather32]

Our NGAs this year look pretty average... I wouldn't commit to any if I was the club.
our list spots can be taken by better ranked players.

If Banfield is not bid on then he would be the only one that is interesting... And even he doesn't look massively appealing

Banfield is going to be a very good player imo

 

[Godfather32]

Even then I feel as if Williams and Banfield are barely scratching the pass mark for worthwhile. Next year looks much much better

Think you've missed the mark here Tiby

 

[txbyhull]

Think you've missed the mark here Tiby

I’ll be as ecstatic as the next guy if he’s a third or fourth banana balanced mid in 5 years time. Right now he’s not even attracting interest in the top 2 rounds of a disaster draft class. Next years look twice the players that these guys are. I’d rather McGlade and Kenh a year early if I’m totally honest

 

[Godfather32]

I’ll be as ecstatic as the next guy if he’s a third or fourth banana balanced mid in 5 years time. Right now he’s not even attracting interest in the top 2 rounds of a disaster draft class. Next years look twice the players that these guys are. I’d rather McGlade and Kenh a year early if I’m totally honest

I was impressed with him in every game I saw him play, I think people are sleeping on him.

 

[rebel23]

They don't have to be a Daicos level pickup to be a worthwhile FS or NGA

That's right... But they have to be worthy of a list spot as opposed to their competitors in the draft.
Maybe they are... But im not seeing it.

 

[Boots73]

Our NGAs this year look pretty average... I wouldn't commit to any if I was the club.
our list spots can be taken by better ranked players.

If Banfield is not bid on then he would be the only one that is interesting... And even he doesn't look massively appealing

You didn't watch the Wafl colts gf or the championships.
Charlie is definately worth picking up

 

[twce13]

That's right... But they have to be worthy of a list spot as opposed to their competitors in the draft.
Maybe they are... But im not seeing it.

Banfield was basically the best performed wa player in the closing months of the season.

Is no one from wa worthy of a list spot?

 

[txbyhull]

Think you've missed the mark here Tiby

For the sake of discussion, my meaning of worthwhile is being more worth their list spot than an opposing player that may or may not be available with our picks. Given our picks are likely to come in from the 35-40 range to closer to the late 20s early 30s range, guys like Matt LeRay, Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier, Fred Rodriguez, Cam Nairn, Sam Ainsworth, Jack Dalton, Cody Curtin, Jett Dahlitz, Harry Kyle, Beau Addinsall, Avery Thomas, and Leon Kickett are all guys I have ranked ahead of Banfield. I last had him ranked as the 45th best kid in the draft. He probably sits around 40 post state-combine.

 

[txbyhull]

Banfield was basically the best performed wa player in the closing months of the season.

Is no one from wa worthy of a list spot?

Lol talk about putting words in his mouth. Banfield was fantastic in finals, and for my 2c I think his main downside which was his composure on-ball especially with his kicking will come with time. That doesn't immediately make him better than some of the other boys that have put in a greater body of work at a higher level.

edit: nevermind, I think you've disliked about 6 of my posts just this afternoon, I sense we won't be coming to a reasonable consensus

 

[Godfather32]

For the sake of discussion, my meaning of worthwhile is being more worth their list spot than an opposing player that may or may not be available with our picks. Given our picks are likely to come in from the 35-40 range to closer to the late 20s early 30s range, guys like Matt LeRay, Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier, Fred Rodriguez, Cam Nairn, Sam Ainsworth, Jack Dalton, Cody Curtin, Jett Dahlitz, Harry Kyle, Beau Addinsall, Avery Thomas, and Leon Kickett are all guys I have ranked ahead of Banfield. I last had him ranked as the 45th best kid in the draft. He probably sits around 40 post state-combine.

Depends where he gets picked I guess. I don't see how you can possibly have Curtin ahead of Banfield though, Curtin spent the whole year lumbering around like he was made of stone. Unless there was a reason for it there is no way he's athletic enough for AFL level football

 

[ACT_EAGLE]

I think with the WA funding much lower than victoria for development. Add in the challenge of size and distance of the state club and the recruiters understand that alot of wa players will come in less ready for AFL than in victoria. Lots of WA players being taken mid season mature draft and taking a little more time to develop but still plenty of talent. The NGA's this year my take some time but there ceiling may be much more than than the 2nd and 3rd round this years draft.

For instance where would Dewar sit in his draft if redrafted now?

Long winded waffle to say take a the boys or Geelong with Lawson Humphry another player.

 

[dinnaz]

Williams looks good in play. Fast feet and agile. Lot of good side steps, however not a lot of goal kicking in the highlights. It worries me a little that we don't seem to have any goal kicking small forwards, of which Dovaston is one.

Others that have watched him play more than me, does he have the ability to create goals from nothing? Or is more of a goal assist, link up forward type of player?

A do not draft type of player Brockman was better at the same stage, and also seen as a pressure player over a goalkicker. And if we weren't dead last he probably doesn't play at all.

If we want a small fwd that may actually do something:
Dovaston at 13, Byrne at 41
if we want to Noah Long another midfielder and screw over the vics with bids:
Sweid, Prindable, Mellor in the 30s

 

[txbyhull]

Depends where he gets picked I guess. I don't see how you can possibly have Curtin ahead of Banfield though, Curtin spent the whole year lumbering around like he was made of stone. Unless there was a reason for it there is no way he's athletic enough for AFL level football

It's been widely spoken about on here that there is a reason for it, and that recruiters are not concerned about it being a future issue. If you watched him last year when he was in better shape you'd never have been saying that.

I find it similar a bit to Robey. People think he is the #2 prospect after putting in a month's worth of work at that level. Banfield put on a month of 1st round level performances. Admittedly he finally got played more on-ball. Doesn't mean he's magically worthy of that draft position.

Thankfully its not a concern as I don't think he'll be getting bid on in the first 2 rounds, maybe not at all.

 

[rebel23]

Banfield was basically the best performed wa player in the closing months of the season.

Is no one from wa worthy of a list spot?

Bit dramatic mate!
I do like the likes of Fred, Farrow, maybe swaddling and definitely like Toby Whan.
All I'm saying is to not be pressured into taking our NGA players just because it's somehow the right thing to do..

 

[Godfather32]

It's been widely spoken about on here that there is a reason for it, and that recruiters are not concerned about it being a future issue. If you watched him last year when he was in better shape you'd never have been saying that.

I find it similar a bit to Robey. People think he is the #2 prospect after putting in a month's worth of work at that level. Banfield put on a month of 1st round level performances. Admittedly he finally got played more on-ball. Doesn't mean he's magically worthy of that draft position.

Thankfully its not a concern as I don't think he'll be getting bid on in the first 2 rounds, maybe not at all.

Ahhh, so the old rating someone off their underage year trick, that never backfires.

I don't think he'll get bid on at all to be honest, all I'm saying is that I think people are going to be surprised by him, imo he's a future best 22 player for us.

 

[txbyhull]

Ahhh, so the old rating someone off their underage year trick, that never backfires.

I don't think he'll get bid on at all to be honest, all I'm saying is that I think people are going to be surprised by him, imo he's a future best 22 player for us.

Fair play.

I am not referring to his underage year, I'm referring to his entire season up until the last month

 

[rebel23]

For the sake of discussion, my meaning of worthwhile is being more worth their list spot than an opposing player that may or may not be available with our picks. Given our picks are likely to come in from the 35-40 range to closer to the late 20s early 30s range, guys like Matt LeRay, Blake Oudshoorn-Bennier, Fred Rodriguez, Cam Nairn, Sam Ainsworth, Jack Dalton, Cody Curtin, Jett Dahlitz, Harry Kyle, Beau Addinsall, Avery Thomas, and Leon Kickett are all guys I have ranked ahead of Banfield. I last had him ranked as the 45th best kid in the draft. He probably sits around 40 post state-combine.

It's been widely spoken about on here that there is a reason for it, and that recruiters are not concerned about it being a future issue. If you watched him last year when he was in better shape you'd never have been saying that.

I find it similar a bit to Robey. People think he is the #2 prospect after putting in a month's worth of work at that level. Banfield put on a month of 1st round level performances. Admittedly he finally got played more on-ball. Doesn't mean he's magically worthy of that draft position.

Thankfully its not a concern as I don't think he'll be getting bid on in the first 2 rounds, maybe not at all.

Agree with both

 

[Godfather32]

It's been widely spoken about on here that there is a reason for it, and that recruiters are not concerned about it being a future issue. If you watched him last year when he was in better shape you'd never have been saying that.

I find it similar a bit to Robey. People think he is the #2 prospect after putting in a month's worth of work at that level. Banfield put on a month of 1st round level performances. Admittedly he finally got played more on-ball. Doesn't mean he's magically worthy of that draft position.

Thankfully its not a concern as I don't think he'll be getting bid on in the first 2 rounds, maybe not at all.

Fair play.

I am not referring to his underage year, I'm referring to his entire season up until the last month

The underage comment was in reference to your Curtin comment above

 

[txbyhull]

The underage comment was in reference to your Curtin comment above

Ahhh. Yeah I don't think that's very fair. We'll never know for sure until something official comes out, but given its been largely touted that its an acute health issue that should be cleared up by the start of his AFL career, I think its pretty fair to look at least at his physical traits last year.

Even then, still bagged for fun all year out of shape.

 

[Godfather32]

Ahhh. Yeah I don't think that's very fair. We'll never know for sure until something official comes out, but given its been largely touted that its an acute health issue that should be cleared up by the start of his AFL career, I think its pretty fair to look at least at his physical traits last year.

Even then, still bagged for fun all year out of shape.

Sure, but we can only go on what we know, and that is that he moved like a fridge for most of the year so I don't see how you can rate him above Banfield based on the the football both played in 2025.
You then brought up his underage year and how Curtin moved better, but basing your drafting on a player's underage year is fraught with danger as we've found out before.

 

[twce13]

Bit dramatic mate!
I do like the likes of Fred, Farrow, maybe swaddling and definitely like Toby Whan.
All I'm saying is to not be pressured into taking our NGA players just because it's somehow the right thing to do..

I don’t disagree with the sentiment. And yeah I didn’t hesitate with the hyperbole bit of fun.

But I think banfield has shown plenty personally. Would be a good get.

I like Evan’s too, albeit an injury ruined top year.

 

[twce13]

Lol talk about putting words in his mouth. Banfield was fantastic in finals, and for my 2c I think his main downside which was his composure on-ball especially with his kicking will come with time. That doesn't immediately make him better than some of the other boys that have put in a greater body of work at a higher level.

edit: nevermind, I think you've disliked about 6 of my posts just this afternoon, I sense we won't be coming to a reasonable consensus

Never said he was worthy more than others, but I refuted the claim that he isn’t worth a spot on the list. Granted I used a bit of hyperbole in the process.

As for the dislikes, nothing personal just massively disagree with your assessment of smilie v sharp. That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but the claim that no club would take sharp over smilie is just a baseless claim.

As for the smile v sharp argument itself, I know where I sit on it but given how irrelevant it is, I can’t really be bothered arguing about it

 

[ghostbat12]

are we sure we don't want Fred anymore? was touted as top 5 and we were salivating. what happened?