List Mgmt. Draft thread - 2025 (remaining picks: 29, 34)

[Keys]

Live draft hand
R1: 1 (Duursma), 4 (CDT), 19 (Lindsay)
R2: 29, 34
RD: 1

Draft picks pre-draft
R1: 1, 2, 13
R2: 34, 41
RD: 1

List spots available
Main list: 2 (includes Duursma, CDT, Lindsay)
Cat A Rookie list: 1 (expecting Robertson, Macrae and Schoenberg to join as SSP signings)
Cat B Rookie list: 1

Draft order

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Cal Twomey’s Phantom Draft

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[dinnaz]

I tend to agree & its what I wanted Richmond to do this year.

I guess the benefit of doing this would mean you could take 2,3 & likely trade 4 for 2 more 1st rounders either this or next year. You guys made the decision to trade out a lot of first rounders to get instant help with Baker - a move like this could give you a chance to more 1st & 2nd rounders to your rebuild. Having Reid, despite his issues this year, does give you "the guy" you can start to build . thanks for answering - a lot ****ing easier getting an answer from you guys than my own supporters, thats for sure.

Not all #1 picks are built the same, thats for sure

Quality over quantity.
Duursma will be like Deledio with how good he was in a number of roles, but never seen as the best player in the comp.

In this draft the next tier down are super sketchy with a lot of bust/lower ceiling potential.

Theres no other way for us to get top line players in other than the pointy end of the draft.

We have next to zero go home factor, compromised drafts year in year out, a declning WA talent pool & an expectation any career will be 3 years less than anywhere else in the country.

The reason we are ****ed is because we have only had 2 top 10 picks in 15 years (in Ginbey & Reid) let that sink in.
*All the other bullshit (Tim Kelly, Simmo) is just a sideshow for the media.

 

[Proeagle]

I listened to Pyke when he was asked by Duffield whether Cripps had signed. His response was to the effect "oh yep that has happened, hasnt that been announced? i'll make sure it is" (and the gist of what he was saying it happened a while ago and we had just forgotten to announce).

I think our club still uses a fax, windows 97 and posts on myspace. Just no clue about social media.

 

[dinnaz]

I think our club still uses a fax, windows 97 and posts on myspace. Just no clue about social media.

Its definitely run by someone over 50 who keeps saying the internet is just a phase.

 

[Keys]

https://archive.is/SpVUD

Article in the West on Wes Walley

He’s the largely forgotten one of our NGA trio after a bit of a quiet year which was impacted by a shoulder injury

As I posted earlier, I suspect if Evans gets through the main draft without a bid he’ll be added as a Cat B rookie with Walley missing out should the club decide to use pick 1 in the rookie draft instead

However, if there’s a bid on Evans then Walley will be an Eagle

It is possible that all Banfield and all 3 NGA players end up on our list but it would need us to match bids on Williams and Evans with Banfield and Walley not attracting bids. That way they could be added as a Cat A and Cat B rookie respectively

Whether that’s the best possible result I’m not sure but I’ll be happy if it eventuates that way

 

[ArdentEagle]

So we have Clay Hall, we're bring in Dev and Fin.

I think people better brace for the fact we might not even be looking at Sharp

 

[wceeaglesfan]

mock draft thoughts? Made this off team needs + team linked

trades
ESS give - 21 and 27
GC give - 15

WCE give - 2
ESS give 5 and 15

Pick 1 WCE - Willem Duursma
Pick 2 GC - Zeke Uwland
Pick 3 ESS - Sullivan Robey
pick 4 GC - Dylan Patterson
pick 5 BL - Dan Annable
Pick 6 RIC - Xavier Taylor
Pick 7 RIC - Sam Grlj
Pick 8 CAR - Harry Dean
Pick 9 WCE - CDT
Pick 10 ESS - Sam Cumming
Pick 11 MEL - Dyson Sharp
Pick 12 MEL - Cameron Nairn
Pick 13 HAW - Jacob Farrow
pick 14 GWS - Harley Barker
Pick 15 WCE - Lachy Dovaston
pick 16 CAR - Aidan Schurbert
Pick 17 WB - Oskar Taylor
Pick 18 WCE - Noah Hibbens
Pick 19 ADE - Mitch Marsh
Pick 20 GEE - Josh Linsday
Pick 21 FRE - Latrelle Pickett
Pick 22 HAW - Oliver Greeves
pick 23 NM - Archie Ludowyke
pick 24 NM - Blake Thredgold
pick 25 ESS - Jevan Phillipou

 

[eaglespremiers]

mock draft thoughts? Made this off team needs + team linked

trades
ESS give - 21 and 27
GC give - 15

WCE give - 2
ESS give 5 and 15

Pick 1 WCE - Willem Duursma
Pick 2 GC - Zeke Uwland
Pick 3 ESS - Sullivan Robey
pick 4 GC - Dylan Patterson
pick 5 BL - Dan Annable
Pick 6 RIC - Xavier Taylor
Pick 7 RIC - Sam Grlj
Pick 8 CAR - Harry Dean
Pick 9 WCE - CDT
Pick 10 ESS - Sam Cumming
Pick 11 MEL - Dyson Sharp
Pick 12 MEL - Cameron Nairn
Pick 13 HAW - Jacob Farrow
pick 14 GWS - Harley Barker
Pick 15 WCE - Lachy Dovaston
pick 16 CAR - Aidan Schurbert
Pick 17 WB - Oskar Taylor
Pick 18 WCE - Noah Hibbens
Pick 19 ADE - Mitch Marsh
Pick 20 GEE - Josh Linsday
Pick 21 FRE - Latrelle Pickett
Pick 22 HAW - Oliver Greeves
pick 23 NM - Archie Ludowyke
pick 24 NM - Blake Thredgold
pick 25 ESS - Jevan Phillipou

So then we take just one NGA/FS?

 

[donpyke92]

Interesting some feel Banfield might be passed on.
Don't have an opinion of how talented he projects to be., just overall scheme of things with WCE, would've thought he's lay down misere.
Building a new culture. Dad, not the most talented, but worked his arse off.
*do have an opinion..hope we pick him, however that comes about

 

[Monocle]

https://archive.is/SpVUD

It is possible that all Banfield and all 3 NGA players end up on our list but it would need us to match bids on Williams and Evans with Banfield and Walley not attracting bids. That way they could be added as a Cat A and Cat B rookie respectively

Whether that’s the best possible result I’m not sure but I’ll be happy if it eventuates that way

Keys - reference see the bolded bit - with the estimated figure, of only 57-60 kids being drafted, being bandied around by Cal and a few others, I think the likelihood of all 4 of them ( Williams, Evans, Wally and Banfield ) from our F/S or NGA, having bids on them, is remote at best.

Worst case IMO, is that we have to match a bid on Williams a tad earlier than we would prefer.
( Having seen him play live I am a big fan of his and think he has a lot of AFL traits, I would be thrilled if we could nab him.)

I would be very surprised, if the draft goes as I think it will, that we are not able to land all four, if we want them.

 

[sregit]

If we can get pick 9 off Carlton I can see a scenario where we get Sharp there. If Essendon don't pick him I think he should get to 9 as I don't think the Dees will draft him. The below would be my best case scenario - but I still think Essendon draft Sharp.

1 - Willem Duursma - WCE
2 - Zeke Uwland - GC (bid matched)
3 - Dylan Patterson - GC (bid matched)
4 - Cooper Duff-Tytler - WCE
5 - Daniel Annable - BRIS (bid matched)
6 - Sullivan Robey - RICH
7 - Xavier Taylor - RICH
8 - Harry Dean - CARL (bid matched)
9 - Sam Cumming - ESS
10 - Jacob Farrow - ESS
11 - Sam Grlj - MELB
12 - Aidan Schubert - MELB
13 - Dyson Sharp - WCE

Excuse tiger incursion:
That is probably IMHO the most accurate list I've seen so far.

I think it will only change slightly in the event that Richmond takes Cumming over Taylor, thus Essendon may take Sharp.

 

[wceeaglesfan]

So then we take just one NGA/FS?

yep, eagles have already told the, there's no guarantee they get taken. I would take Tylah with that last spot

 

[twce13]

So we have Clay Hall, we're bring in Dev and Fin.

I think people better brace for the fact we might not even be looking at Sharp

Anything but duursma and cdt at our picks would shock me.

I’m ok with it too. Bank the talent

 

[Keys]

Interesting some feel Banfield might be passed on.
Don't have an opinion of how talented he projects to be., just overall scheme of things with WCE, would've thought he's lay down misere.
Building a new culture. Dad, not the most talented, but worked his arse off.
*do have an opinion..hope we pick him, however that comes about

I definitely want Banfield on our list - - will be pissed off if he isn’t and I don’t think I’m alone in that view

It’s just that we need at least one of Banfield or Evans to get through the draft without attracting a bid

Monocle i broadly agree with your post

Williams will get a bid- closer to 30 than 20 imo but one will come. Walley won’t

Of the other two, whilst they’re both a chance to get through, I think Evans is the more likely to get a bid. Those late picks are going to be quite speculative so clubs will trend towards drafting for upside which Evans has in spades.

A more reliably consistent type like Banfield with a lower ceiling is a good chance to slip through- I also have an unsubstantiated belief that clubs are more comfortable bidding on academy players than they are F/S selections

I’m trying to work through each clubs picks and list openings to see who has a late pick or two they might use for a throw at the stumps with a bid. Good news is it doesn’t look like Geelong will be taking more than two picks so can rule them out



Get him in the wings

 

[WCEswift]

charlie banfield just feels like he has something special about him.

 

[mitchzz]

Noticed one Willem Duursma liking a few WC posts on Insta today

 

[twce13]

Noticed one Willem Duursma liking a few WC posts on Insta today

He’s been awesome in the media, saying all the right things. Pumped to see him in the wings

 

[Peptide Pig]

Where things stand

List Openings:
• 5 Primary list
• 4 Rookie list - Cat A
• 1 Rookie list - Cat B

Draft Picks:
• R1: 1,2,13
• R2: 34,41
• RD: 1

Picks 1,2:

• Willem Duursma is all but locked in as the No.1 draft pick for 2025
• West Coast haven’t entirely ruled out trading pick 2 but it’s unlikely and they are yet to receive any offers for it
• It is anticipated that West Coast will make a bid for Zeke Uwland (GC Academy) with pick 2 and then possibly a bid on Harry Dean (Carlton F/S) after that.
• Further bids on either Dylan Patterson (GC Academy) or Dan Annable (BL Academy), whilst possible, seem unlikely at this stage
• Cooper Duff-Tytler is the most likely player to be selected with the Eagle’s second pick- very few, if any, media reports have West Coast linked to anyone else so we’re near certainties to take CDT or have performed some world class misdirection

Pick 13

• West Coast remain in discussions with Carlton to move pick 13 up the order to pick 9 using pick 34 and/or 41, but there’s been little progress so far or detail on what a trade might look like
• Other clubs (Adelaide, St Kilda, Essendon and potentially Collingwood) are also exploring a trade for Carlton’s pick 9 or 11, however, any trade is not expected until a bid is lodged for Harry Dean. Carlton may decide not to trade either pick at all depending on the timing of the Dean bid as when it comes will significantly influence their options
• The presumed target for a trade up the order is Jacob Farrow from West Perth, however he is also being linked to Essendon (picks 5,6) and Melbourne (picks 7,8) before that pick so might not be available
• If a trade for pick 9 isn’t completed, pick 13 will likely become either the 11th or 12th pick in the open pool depending on what Carlton do with picks 9 and 11 when matching the expected Dean bid
• There is very little/no information in the media on an alternative option to Farrow with our third pick - regardless of whether it’s moved up the order or stays where it is - so our ability to keep our intentions out of the media has been impressive
• As many as 10 players are a possibility with our third pick depending on trades and picks prior to ours - Farrow, Sharp, Grlj, Dovaston, Lindsay, O Taylor, Hibbins-Hargreaves, Nairn, Barker or Schubert would be viable selections in therange the pick will fall. There has been a loose connection to Latrelle Pickett from Glenelg and suggestions we’ve put some work into Beau Addinsall (GC Academy) as possible targets

Picks 34/41

Due to bids on academy and F/S players early in the draft and picks lost matching those bids, including possible pick swaps to generate additional points, these two picks will likely be in the 28-30 and 35-37 range respectively before other bids start late R1/early R2

There are numerous possibilities on what happens with these two picks:

• One, or both, picks might be used to trade pick 13 up to pick 9 which may or may not include a pick coming back from Carlton (they hold picks 43 and 54 currently)
• One, or both, picks might be used matching a bid on our NGA player, Tylah Williams, which reportedly could come as early as GWS (pick 12) or more likely from Fremantle’s pick 20 onwards. It is unclear how early West Coast would match any bid, but I doubt they’d match one from GWS with their first pick
• Make a fourth live draft selection based on who is left on our draft board, although as with pick 13, there’s been very little discussion around who we would be targeting with this pick - possibly because the media assumption is we will match a bid on Williams. We would have to guess who’s likely to still be available with our pick should we decide not to match
• In the unlikely event, a bid for Williams doesn’t come before pick 34 we might use that pick then match a bid for Williams when one comes or trade the pick into 2026 depending on who’s still available
• It’s not been raised in the media, but there is also a possibility we trade either, or both, of these picks into 2026 or combine them to move further up the draft order slightly. This would depend on plans around our own NGA and F/S players we’ve nominated and would only happen if we don’t intend to match a Williams bid prior to pick 37

F/S and NGA Nominations

• We’ve nominated Tylah Williams, Koby Evans and Wes Walley as selections from our Next Generation Academy plus Charlie Banfield (son of Drew) as a F/S. This gives us the right to match a bid on any of these players during the primary draft or add them directly to our rookie list if a bid doesn’t eventuate but we aren’t obligated to do so.
• To match a bid requires the following:

• Picks 1-18: The points value of the pick less a 10% discount
• Picks 19-36: The points value of the pick less a fixed 84 point discount
• Pick 37 onwards: Next available pick regardless of points but, most importantly, only if there’s an available primary list spot. We have 5 open spots, 3 of which will be filled with our R1 picks, meaning we will only be able to match a maximum of 2 bids

• Expectations on when bids will be lodged:

• Williams: As discussed a bid might come as early as R1 and in the 19-36 range. If we’ve retained picks 34 and 41 we would have sufficient points to match a bid from late R1 onwards. However, if we’ve traded pick 34 then where pick 41 lands on the night likely only covers a pick around 30 onwards. Trading both picks would mean it’s unlikely we’d be able to match a bid before 37 unless we used a future pick to trade back in
• Evans and Banfield: A bid on either player isn’t expected before pick 37, if at all. That means points won’t be required to match a bid but an open list spot will - it’s likely we’ll have used a fourth selection by this point (either by matching a Williams bid or using a live pick) so we’d be in a position to only cover a bid on one player, not both. If there’s no bid on one, or both, they can (and will) be added to the rookie list after the draft - Banfield as a Cat A and Evans as a Cat B
• Walley: It would be a surprise if a bid comes for Walley meaning we’d be able to add him to our Cat B rookie list post draft. However, there is only one vacant Cat B spot so if Evans also goes through without a bid we would need to move Malakai Champion onto the Cat A rookie list in order to add both. That would swallow up a Cat A opening the club might have other plans for so it’s possible Walley is only listed if a bid is made on Evans

Rookie List - Cat A

As mentioned above, we have 4 Cat A rookie list openings:

• Dev Robertson has committed to joining the club as a SSP signing post draft, which has effectively been confirmed by the club, so he will take one spot
• Finn Macrae has been reported by Josh Gabelich on the AFL website to have done the same so, although this has yet been confirmed by the club, he will take up the second spot. If the report is incorrect then this will be another DFA instead
• The club seemingly intends to leave one spot open to find a player via a train on process like they did with Sandy Brock last offseason - Harry Schoenberg (ex Adelaide) is one possibility we’ve been linked to
• We have first pick in the Rookie draft so it’s probable we look to select a player we like who has slipped through the main draft - based on our overall intake i suspect this would be a KPP or ruck option
• Depending on if/where Banfield, Evans and/or Walley end up on our list one of the latter two options might not eventuate - we can have a max of 4 from the 5 possible options of those three players, pick 1 in the RD and a train on option. (Assumes we take a fourth player in the draft - either Williams or a draft pick)

Likely Outcome

• Willem Duursma - definite
• Cooper Duff-Tytler - near certain
• Pick from the 12-16 draft range overall (Hope for Sharp as the best possible result)
• Tylah Williams - probable matched bid
• Evans/Banfield or Banfield/Walley or Evans/Walley - one of those three combinations a near certainty.
• RD Pick 1 - KPP/Ruck
• Deven Robertson
• Finn Macrae
• Train on option (possibly Harry Schoenberg) or Wes Walley

I hope the train on/final rookie spot is Tom Mitchell or Elijah Hollands. I rate the Dev & Finn additions but I reckon we are starting to scrape the barrel with guys like Schoenberg.

Titch should have better on field impact and most importantly bring some elite standards and leadership in an area of the ground we are lacking, albeit if only for a year or two.

Hollands is highly talented and on his last chance, hopefully we are monitoring how he is training at the Blues. If the off-field stuff is under control then there’s big upside.

I also wouldn’t mind pinching George Stevens before Geelong can re-rookie him… mostly out of spite. Either way, I like that the guys we are considering are all from high-performing clubs (Lions/Cats/Pies/Crows) so should come with good standards and IP.

My order of preference after DevRob and Macrae would be;

• Mitchell
• Hollands
• Stevens
• Blamires
• Clohesy
• Schoenberg

*Not including Banfield and Evans who I hope we land, Walley might be the unlucky one to miss out this year.

 

[UseR2006]

This year has gone so far as expected for draft prep.
Didn't cut too deep, kept some experience on the list but the majority of the dead wood is gone.
I think most of you are spot on with what we'll end up taking, excluding the inevitable surprise.

This year is very much a consolidation year and assessment of the list year to determine where the cuts will be for next years cull. Not much older dead wood to get rid of in 2026.

In terms of who we take I think considering both Dursma and CDT have done WA media they are a likely lock unless there is a surprise trade out of Pick 2. (even though i'm not keen on CDT).

I think we'll take all 4 of the NGA/FS prospects.
The surprise will be who we take at 13 (or 9 if we trade up).

 

[FatPizza]

We get **** all F&S coming through, so I'd also be incredibly disappointed if we didn't get Banfield...

 

[Wce17]

Just looking at the full nomination list for the draft & just a few things that stood out.

Jake Caton & Darcy Montgomery both Eagles NGA's have nominated even though we haven't nominated to have access to them. Could simply be we rate all the other guys infront on them & just don't have to space. If they don't get picked up would be good to get them into the WAFL eagles to see what they could offer.

Another Eagles NGA Travis Puertollano who I've never seen mentioned has nominated. Seems he plays for Broome Saints in the West Kimberley League. Can't find much on him although theres a WAFL profile for a Daijon Puertollano who played 1 colts game this year who is also listed from the Broome Saints so thinking it's the same player. Anyone able to share anything else on this kid?

Jordyn Baker has also nominated & I think he was unlucky to never get a game with us. From what I saw from him at League level this year at East Perth he was impressive, think he has the talent & can't work out why he was let go. Watch Geelong pick him up...

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[FKASC]

Watch Geelong pick him up...

I can imagine this happening and it already annoys me

 

[nameless]

I don't think there's any way a team bids on a speculative F/S.
If Banfield was 1st/2nd Rd worthy then sure, but he's ranked about 40-60.

I think there's a level of understanding to let those sort of players find their way to their father's club.

Academy picks on the other hand are fair game to be bid on when required and with that I could see a few clubs having a go at our players, but we should be good to cover.

 

[bs9594]

I don't think anyone would complain if we walked away with Duursma, CDT, and Sharp, + charlie & nga.
I think any scenario where that happens would be awesome (assuming we dont sell a bunch of future picks lol)

 

[Bender_]

I just can't shake the feeling Geelong are going to swoop in and take a player we've already delisted.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

I don't think there's any way a team bids on a speculative F/S.
If Banfield was 1st/2nd Rd worthy then sure, but he's ranked about 40-60.

I think there's a level of understanding to let those sort of players find their way to their father's club.

Academy picks on the other hand are fair game to be bid on when required and with that I could see a few clubs having a go at our players, but we should be good to cover.

He's hardly any more speculative Farrow. Production at Colts and Champs, lifted in finals and tested better than anyone bar Williams from WA.

Only knock on Charlie is he lacks a single killer trait but he's not dragging around huge weaknesses either. If he was from Caulfield Grammer he'd be blue chip.