Recommitted Dustin Martin [re-signed]

[Phillyroo]

You think Kelly will finish 2nd in the Brownlow?

He is 4th in the betting right now..... not exactly surprising... you obviously haven't seen him play this year.

 

[tigernsw]

In all honesty I don't really understand why North is going after Martin.

Perhaps it's only to make it appear to fans that the club is "doing all it can"

Their rebuild is a long way off being completed. Not sure how Martin fixes their obvious problems.

 

[Colonial]

Yep and pigs "may" fly

Rather cocky arent you.

Especially considering every big name North goes after says no.

Will he sign with North? Possible.

I dint think he will. He has done the bottom of the table thing.
Personally think he will be looking at a finals club that can go for the flag.


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[boncer34]

He is 4th in the betting right now..... not exactly surprising... you obviously haven't seen him play this year.

$50 says he doesn't finish top 4?

 

[Phillyroo]

No its staffing on because Ralph Carr wants the publicity to try and gain more players for his stable.

Deal will be signed before finals.

I'll add another $50 to our previous wager, no way he signs anywhere before finals.

 

[Phillyroo]

$50 says he doesn't finish top 4?

I'll put $50 on him to win it, and ost the ticket instead.

 

[Heisenberg_]

I'll add another $50 to our previous wager, no way he signs anywhere before finals.

No I can't control that I'm only betting he won't join you, I'm pretty confident he will stay from people who have told me as well as knowing who they know.

 

[StCicatriz]

North Melbourne is hoping to secure both Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly this off-season
SAM LANDSBERGER, EXCLUSIVE, Herald Sun
19 minutes ago
Subscriber only
NORTH Melbourne’s board has ticked off on the game’s most audacious recruiting raid — a stunning double play for superstars Dustin Martin and Josh Kelly.

The Herald Sun estimates the combined value of the deals is in excess of the $15 million mark and has confirmed the Kangaroos have enough salary cap space to poach both out-of-contract midfielders.

The Roos would sign Kelly and Martin on long-term deals each worth more than $1 million a season to accelerate the club’s push for a fifth premiership.

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North has not disputed reports of a nine-year offer for Giants star and childhood Kangaroos fan Kelly while six years is closer to the mark for Tiger Martin.

Dustin Martin breaks a tackle against Port Adelaide. Picture: Sarah Reed
It’s understood the club has spent considerabletime devising a strategy to land both players in October. Factors include:

ARRIVING as a package would allow Martin and Kelly to share the spotlight.

EXISTING links to Arden St (Kelly’s father Phil played 61 games for North and Martin is a friend of defender Marley Williams).

IMMEDIATE impact on a team which has lost five games by less than a goal.

THE prospect of an influx of father-son and academy prospects eligible to join the following year.

Kangaroos head of football Cameron Joyce on Thursday refused to comment on a dual bid for the stars.

“What I will say is that we were decisive last year in making sure we explored every option and nothing has changed,” Joyce told the Herald Sun.

“We will explore every single option available to us … and we will make sure any prospective move ties in directly with our strategic goal of winning our fifth premiership.”




If the Kangaroos pulled off the Martin-Kelly coup they could then load up with four gun kids at next year’s draft.

They have priority access to father-sons Nick Blakey (son of John), Bailey Scott (son of Robert) and Joel Crocker (son of Darren) plus top indigenous talent Tarryn Thomas through their Tasmanian academy.

Blakey and Scott are also eligible at other clubs.

Reversing North’s five tight losses this season would lift coach Brad Scott’s young side to within one win of the top four.

Scott has privately lamented the need for a game-breaking megastar.

The Kangas would not have to trade for Martin, but Richmond could thwart his potential move by matching a godfather offer for the restricted free agent.

The Tigers have tabled Martin the richest offer in Punt Rd history, but the Brownlow fancy is yet to sign their six-year contract.

If the Roos remain 17th they could begin negotiations for Kelly by offering GWS the No. 2 draft pick.

Josh Kelly in action for GWS. Picture: Phil Hillyard
Retired Kangaroo Nick Dal Santo said Martin and Kelly were top-five midfielders who would give North an “absolute dynamic” look.

“My move there went as smooth as it could’vegone in regards to being welcomed into a newfootball club,” Dal Santo said.

“And I think they have equal opportunity. Resources, equipment, facilities — I always felt that I had everything I ever wanted or needed.”

The Roos attempted to trade into the 2012 mini-draft to secure 17-year-old Kelly, rating him above Jesse Hogan and Jack Martin.

But Gold Coast (Martin) and Melbourne (Hogan) satisfied the Giants with earlier selections.

North holds the third-best percentage by a four-win team in VFL-AFL history after Round 17, highlighting its competitiveness.

For that to be only ticked off by the board now... You might be a bit late to the party

 

[Snake_Baker]

.........because Ralph Carr wants the publicity to try and gain more players for his stable............

All banter aside.

Do you honestly believe this?

Do you honestly believe that Dustin Martin is some zombie moron who is under the spell of Ralph Carr and has no input in to when he signs a deal?

 

[StCicatriz]

Well......maybe the club knows the outcome so it isn't too worried about taking a public position.

I'm pretty sure the Richmond footy department will be having an urgent meeting in the morning.

If you know the outcome you say nothing. To give the players you've secure breathing space and let them play out their footy without speculation.

That's a "guys we tried everything we could" type article

 

[Heisenberg_]

All banter aside.

Do you honestly believe this?

Do you honestly believe that Dustin Martin is some zomble moron who is under the spell of Ralph Carr and has no input in to when he signs a deal?

It doesn't effect his footy and naturally waiting will see his price go up, well also helping a mate out hopefully.
Do you guys think Martin and Kelly would appreciate NM having them splashed all over the papers when they've got finals to focus on?

 

[tigerwill]

All banter aside.

Do you honestly believe this?

Do you honestly believe that Dustin Martin is some zombie moron who is under the spell of Ralph Carr and has no input in to when he signs a deal?

Where did he say that about Dusty? Oops he didn't, you did.

To use your own philosophy, why hasn't Dusty come out and said he's definitely leaving? Or that he will be accepting or considering another offer? Or that he'd love to play with his mate Marley? (Is he the only mate he has? ) Or that he thinks North have a promising list or some such indication?

Players are generally guided by their manager. They have announced a timeframe for a decision. They will mull over the pros and cons of offers presented. Then announce a decision. They've said that from the start of negotiations. It's called due diligence.

 

[boncer34]

I'll put $50 on him to win it, and ost the ticket instead.

If you're going to give away $50 give it to me.

 

[tigerwill]

If you're going to give away $50 give it to me.

He's got to wait until the board gives its tick of approval first

 

[Royal Flush]

It doesn't effect his footy and naturally waiting will see his price go up, well also helping a mate out hopefully.
Do you guys think Martin and Kelly would appreciate NM having them splashed all over the papers when they've got finals to focus on?

Equally do you believe JK appreciated being splashed around with links to Carlton and St Kilda?

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[Snake_Baker]

It doesn't effect his footy and naturally waiting will see his price go up, well also helping a mate out hopefully.

Your position is that Dustin is prepared to sweat Richmond if it gets him more money, and he is placing the needs of his manager above those of his club?

Have I interpreted you correctly?

Do you guys think Martin and Kelly would appreciate NM having them splashed all over the papers when they've got finals to focus on?

This stuff hit the papers back at the start of the year in regards to Kelly, and months ago in regards to Martin.

GWS and Richmond have both ramped up their efforts to re-sign both players, with no luck so far, and in the full glare of the media spotlight.

Do you guys think Martin and Kelly would appreciate GWS and Richmond having them splashed all over the papers when they've got finals to focus on?

 

[Royal Flush]

Where did he say that about Dusty? Oops he didn't, you did.

To use your own philosophy, why hasn't Dusty come out and said he's definitely leaving? Or that he will be accepting or considering another offer? Or that he'd love to play with his mate Marley? (Is he the only mate he has? ) Or that he thinks North have a promising list or some such indication?

Players are generally guided by their manager. They have announced a timeframe for a decision. They will mull over the pros and cons of offers presented. Then announce a decision. They've said that from the start of negotiations. It's called due diligence.

Lance Franklin, GAJ and Dangerfield all knew that they were leaving at the end of the year at the start of the season.


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[Snake_Baker]

Where did he say that about Dusty? Oops he didn't, you did.

To use your own philosophy, why hasn't Dusty come out and said he's definitely leaving? Or that he will be accepting or considering another offer? Or that he'd love to play with his mate Marley? (Is he the only mate he has? ) Or that he thinks North have a promising list or some such indication?

1) Dustin shuns the media whenever possible.
2) Nobody has asked him most of these questions
3) Answering some of those questions now would be downright unprofessional

Players are generally guided by their manager. They have announced a timeframe for a decision. They will mull over the pros and cons of offers presented. Then announce a decision. They've said that from the start of negotiations. It's called due diligence.

They also re-sign when they are advised to do so, or the player wants to do so.

If they wish to go through some post season "mull over" process, then by logical extension, there is a very real possibility he wants to leave Richmond.

I don't think we can escape the "fact" that Dustin is clearly pissed about aspects of the clubs administration. There is no other logical explanation if Richmond are supposedly prepared to match any offers.

 

[Phillyroo]

No I can't control that I'm only betting he won't join you, I'm pretty confident he will stay from people who have told me as well as knowing who they know.

Oh you mean the bet where I wanted to bet my house, and you laid a miserly $50.

Its happening.

 

[CFC_#17]

Oh you mean the bet where I wanted to bet my house, and you laid a miserly $50.

Its happening.

a $50 bet is a realistic bet, a house is not. I can't wait too call you out when North don't get either players and end up with Jasper Pittard on $650,000 a year.

 

[Heisenberg_]

a $50 bet is a realistic bet, a house is not. I can't wait too call you out when North don't get either players and end up with Jasper Pittard on $650,000 a year.

To fm the fact he wants to have a totally unrealistic bet shows deep down he knows it will be history repeating itself and they will miss out again.

 

[CFC_#17]

If you know the outcome you say nothing. To give the players you've secure breathing space and let them play out their footy without speculation.

That's a "guys we tried everything we could" type article

Didn't hear Hawks announcing to the world we have O'meara and Mitchell last year with two months too go in the season. How did it go for the Crows announcing they were getting Bryce Gibbs before a deal was signed off?

 

[Tiger71]

Oh you mean the bet where I wanted to bet my house, and you laid a miserly $50.

Its happening.

If you have so much cash. I am happy to bet $100 on Dusty not going to North.

 

[Phillyroo]

If you have so much cash. I am happy to bet $100 on Dusty not going to North.

Done

 

[Great8]

Yeah adding the probable 1 and 2 in this years Brownlow wouldn't improve us at all.

Didn't know Dangerfield was going to North aswell