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[WCEforeverman]

Adapt or die.

 

[greennick]

Still missing the point, under the current scheme you get whatever your zones produce + interstate recruits + a handful of AFL listed players (Clarke and Pitt I think were the only 2 regulars to play for East Perth this year) to make a 22.

By changing the dynamic of going from a handfull to 10+ you don't require as much from your zones and instead of fielding borderline players to make up your 22 you get to cherry pick only the best leaving East Perth with a team that's going to be far superior to the other 7 clubs who have 0 AFL listed players at their disposal.

As I listed elsewhere, using the current squad East Perth would only fill in the blanks of those not in the 22 (going by the 22 published on the AFL website)

FB Brennan Brown Wilson
HB Smith Tunbridge Morton
C Sheppard McGinnity Dalziell
HF Newman Mcinnes Cripps
FF Dick McGovern Hill
R Lycett Hams Draft (Pick 44)
I/C (Draft Pick 61) (Draft Pick 62) (Rookie Draft pick 1) (Rookie Draft pick 2)

-Minus 1 player held over as an emergency
-Minus a few for injuries
-Minus a few of the rookie draft players playing in the reserves/colts

And you are still left with a starting template vastly superior to anything 7 of the teams have to work with. Even without interstate recruits add in your full compliment from your recruiting zones and you will be streets ahead of the rest without even trying too hard.

I get that the senior side will better. I get that you want to restrict them. However, I think you need to find a better way to do that.

The point I have been making was if you screw their zones over they won't have a competitive Colts or Ressies side as these won't be helped by the Eagles. So, your entire post is useless to this end.

That is my only point, so you're missing my point, not the other way around.

 

[kane249]

So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

 

[kranky al]

So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

I get that the senior side will better. I get that you want to restrict them. However, I think you need to find a better way to do that.

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So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

I get that the senior side will better. I get that you want to restrict them. However, I think you need to find a better way to do that.

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So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

I get that the senior side will better. I get that you want to restrict them. However, I think you need to find a better way to do that.

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So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

I get that the senior side will better. I get that you want to restrict them. However, I think you need to find a better way to do that.

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there you go - in technicolor

 

[greennick]

So in short East Perth want to have their cake and eat it too

I couldn't care less about East Perth. I just think in fairness to them you've got to find a way to reduce the strength of the senior team, through any one or combination of:
- salary cap restrictions
- restriction on interstate recruits
- restriction on intrastate transfers
- reduced $$ support

Significantly reducing their zone affects more than just their senior side, all of the above wouldn't too much.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

So all the East Perth players in 2013.

Lycett, Wilson, Hurn, Rosa, Schofield all moving from Peel.
Cox, Shuey, A.Selwood already aligned with EP.
Wellingham, Cripps, Bennell, Morton all move back to WA and go to East Perth.

 

[matt_bas]

We played games this season against both Claremont and East Fremantle when they fielded over 10 AFL players. In our finals defeat to East Fremantle they fielded (I think ) 10 AFL players and we had none. So don't carry on as though it hasn't happened before.
As has been pointed out previously, FIVE clubs approached the Eagles about the partnership agreement - seems to be a case of those who missed out now spitting the dummy.
Claremont and East Fremantle have received huge benefits due to the number of AFL players on their list. The clubs do not have to pay the wages for those players so they in effect, have more money to recruit other players. Those two clubs also have the best zones to enable them to recruit from. I haven't seen those two clubs offering to change zones with the disadvataged clubs!
At the East Perth meeting last week, Bronte said that the majority of WAFL clubs have major financial problems. East Perth have still not been paid transfer fees for some players we traded to other clubs last season. Perth are said to be selling players to the wealthier clubs to try and make ends meet. Claremont and East Fremantle also reap a financial benefit from payments when their zoned players are drafted to the AFL - yet another "leg up" they have over other clubs.
The WAFL has huge problems - most of them financial. Bronte said that is his opinion, the WAFL cannot sustain nine clubs. Withing the next five years, there will be a merger. That is one of the prime reasons why East Perth were keen on the partnership with the Eagles. We would be a prime candidate for a merger with possibly Subiaco as we share the same oval and we do not have a strong financial position. I would rather be in partnership with the Eagles than lose our identity which is what would happen with a merger.

Very well said!

 

[matt_bas]

Match made in heaven! Word is Cousins, Fletcher, Gardie, Chick and co to head the player development dept at EP.

That's disgraceful.

 

[matt_bas]

Still missing the point, under the current scheme you get whatever your zones produce + interstate recruits + a handful of AFL listed players (Clarke and Pitt I think were the only 2 regulars to play for East Perth this year) to make a 22.

By changing the dynamic of going from a handfull to 10+ you don't require as much from your zones and instead of fielding borderline players to make up your 22 you get to cherry pick only the best leaving East Perth with a team that's going to be far superior to the other 7 clubs who have 0 AFL listed players at their disposal.

As I listed elsewhere, using the current squad East Perth would only fill in the blanks of those not in the 22 (going by the 22 published on the AFL website)

FB Brennan Brown Wilson
HB Smith Tunbridge Morton
C Sheppard McGinnity Dalziell
HF Newman Mcinnes Cripps
FF Dick McGovern Hill
R Lycett Hams Draft (Pick 44)
I/C (Draft Pick 61) (Draft Pick 62) (Rookie Draft pick 1) (Rookie Draft pick 2)

-Minus 1 player held over as an emergency
-Minus a few for injuries
-Minus a few of the rookie draft players playing in the reserves/colts

And you are still left with a starting template vastly superior to anything 7 of the teams have to work with. Even without interstate recruits add in your full compliment from your recruiting zones and you will be streets ahead of the rest without even trying too hard.

Don't remember Hill or McGinnity playing wafl much last year, nor do I see them playing much next year. Brennan played a hell of a lot of footy last year awell and Hams played a fair bit early on. Might as well Cox, Kerr, Priddis in the line up.

 

[kane249]

Don't remember Hill or McGinnity playing wafl much last year, nor do I see them playing much next year. Brennan played a hell of a lot of footy last year awell and Hams played a fair bit early on. Might as well Cox, Kerr, Priddis in the line up.

As I listed elsewhere, using the current squad East Perth would only fill in the blanks of those not in the 22 (going by the 22 published on the AFL website)

Read all of it next time

 

[masai]

Still reckon that the Eagles "seconds" at Perth would have been a better fit.

Lathlain would make a great location for the new Eagles training facilities in around 2017.

 

[Masto]

Still reckon that the Eagles "seconds" at Perth would have been a better fit.

Lathlain would make a great location for the new Eagles training facilities in around 2017.

Ideally we don't want to train in the city with the pollution. In that sense, going to Cockburn is probably not a bad idea for you guys.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

The Eagles can't handle Perth.

We're too powerful.

 

[kane249]

Ideally we don't want to train in the city with the pollution. In that sense, going to Cockburn is probably not a bad idea for you guys.

Pollution? What pollution? Perth's one of the cleanest city's i've been to

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Ideally we don't want to train in the city with the pollution. In that sense, going to Cockburn is probably not a bad idea for you guys.

You are talking about Cockburn right? much closer to our heavy pollution industries...

Whats the difference in pollution between Subiaco and Lathlain, probably only difference is the strength of the sea breeze in moving the crap away quicker.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

The Eagles can't handle Perth.

We're too powerful.

Lathlain is too close to the surrounding houses for Masto to train safely.

 

[masai]

In all your cheeky posts, you may have missed my point ?.

When Burswood Stadium is completed, I reckon Subi Oval will be too good a target for the Subi council ............ money = housing. Eagles will need new training facilities.

Lathlain Oval is ready for plucking.

 

[Max zero]

In all your cheeky posts, you may have missed my point ?.

When Burswood Stadium is completed, I reckon Subi Oval will be too good a target for the Subi council ............ money = housing. Eagles will need new training facilities.

Lathlain Oval is ready for plucking.

I thought WC were already planning to base themselves at the new stadium? It's why they haven't upgraded their Subi facilities?

 

[Mr Eagle]

I thought WC were already planning to base themselves at the new stadium? It's why they haven't upgraded their Subi facilities?

No I thought we were going to stick with Subi, even though there was an expectation that it would be downsized to a more WAFL-appropriate capacity?

 

[Max zero]

No I thought we were going to stick with Subi, even though there was an expectation that it would be downsized to a more WAFL-appropriate capacity?

Well if they are staying why don't they upgrade them? They certainly have the money.

To me it seems like a move is on the cards. Get a new state of the art facility at Burswood.

 

[Masto]

Pollution? What pollution? Perth's one of the cleanest city's i've been to

It has pollution like any city. You're in denial if you think otherwise. If we are going to build our own training facilities, which we should, doing it in the middle of Perth city is not ideal for many reasons.

 

[Mr Eagle]

Well if they are staying why don't they upgrade them? They certainly have the money.

Probably just waiting to see exactly what goes ahead at Burswood. No point trying to achieve anything at Subi if Burswood is suddenly a no-go for any reason and the govt goes back to looking at turning Subi sideways or moving it 23.5 metres to the right or anything like that.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

In all your cheeky posts, you may have missed my point ?.

When Burswood Stadium is completed, I reckon Subi Oval will be too good a target for the Subi council ............ money = housing. Eagles will need new training facilities.

Lathlain Oval is ready for plucking.

Id suggest you do some reading then. Subiaco council want the oval heritage listed and the WAFC don't want the red tape getting in the way of whatever they might have planned.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

Well if they are staying why don't they upgrade them? They certainly have the money.

To me it seems like a move is on the cards. Get a new state of the art facility at Burswood.

Why upgrade facilities that will be demolished In 8-10 years time?

From the sounds of things the WAFC want to base themselves and the state academy out of Subiaco alongside the WCE. That means knocking down a most of Subiaco Oval, rebuilding new facilities and then knocking down the old ones.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Why upgrade facilities that will be demolished In 8-10 years time?

From the sounds of things the WAFC want to base themselves and the state academy out of Subiaco alongside the WCE. That means knocking down a most of Subiaco Oval, rebuilding new facilities and then knocking down the old ones.

Sticking it at Subiaco Oval and redeveloping our facilities there is probably the best out come once the burswood arena is built.