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EDFL moves Part 2
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A little prickly there mate... You didn't mention spending the cash on club rooms in the previous post and you said they had 'plenty' of money....
As for my playing or not - yes I play and those that post regularly on here probably know who I am so I don't need to justify my credentials. I thought we'd cleared out the people on here, who just like you feel the need to tack on the little abusive tag on the end of every post.....
Relax...
Premier: Keilor
Runners Up: Greenvale
Likely Final 4: Greenvale, Keilor, Marby, Strathmore(smoky west coburg)
League B&F: Daniel Mcferran
Most Goals: Carey or Morell
Biggest Disappointment: Doutta stars
Biggest Improver: Maribyrnong Park
B Grade
likely 5: Oak Park,Pascoe Vale, Keilor Park, Tullamarine,Airport west
League B AND F: Corey Bakker
Most Goals: Roden Aldridge or Ash Flavel
Biggest Dissapointment: Westmeadows
Biggest Improver: Pascoe Vale
Runners Up: Greenvale
Likely Final 4: Greenvale, Keilor, Marby, Strathmore(smoky west coburg)
League B&F: Daniel Mcferran
Most Goals: Carey or Morell
Biggest Disappointment: Doutta stars
Biggest Improver: Maribyrnong Park
B Grade
likely 5: Oak Park,Pascoe Vale, Keilor Park, Tullamarine,Airport west
League B AND F: Corey Bakker
Most Goals: Roden Aldridge or Ash Flavel
Biggest Dissapointment: Westmeadows
Biggest Improver: Pascoe Vale
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Thatll Do Newto
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So Strathmore are playing their home games at Cross Keys in 09. Talk about taking us back to the 70's...2 shitty portables for the players to get changed in and an urn full of boiling water to make a cup of coffee out of.
Surely these bozo's and the EDFL could get their act together and could of sourced a better deal at other grounds than the scene from Underbelly for all and sundry to hang out at over winter.
I'm tipping the sports bar at the local will be choca block so get a stool on the balcony early and get your beer wench organised.
Surely these bozo's and the EDFL could get their act together and could of sourced a better deal at other grounds than the scene from Underbelly for all and sundry to hang out at over winter.
I'm tipping the sports bar at the local will be choca block so get a stool on the balcony early and get your beer wench organised.
well said
glenroy has got plenty of money , but its not for players its for the rooms that there getting built and that is costing them over 2 million
so shut your mouth if you dont know what your talking about yeah ?
are you stupid ?
there getting ROOMS BUILT , they cannot afford to pay players huge ammounts of money like greenvale and marbie ect.
if they wernt getting rooms built than they of course would pay players huge ammounts but they just cant this year.
are you an idiot ?
you clearly have no idea
manning recruited delaney and sayers and maybe oggo
gerneral came because he followed friends same with campbell and im not sure about knox
and if hes so good , why isnt he recruiting any players this year , or maybe if he was a good coach he would have kept most of the players from last year. shut your mouth you have no clue what your on about , your not apart of the club.
I am apart of the club. and i can tell you everybody there has made efforts to bring back players that had left the club. Lay off the coach, the new rooms ment that they cant afford to match the offers other clubs made to players. It had nothing to do with the coach or the club. Some of the boys didnt like the idea of playing against the BIG BOYS in A-grade.
It wasnt an abusive tag, it was a simple question.A little prickly there mate... You didn't mention spending the cash on club rooms in the previous post and you said they had 'plenty' of money....
As for my playing or not - yes I play and those that post regularly on here probably know who I am so I don't need to justify my credentials. I thought we'd cleared out the people on here, who just like you feel the need to tack on the little abusive tag on the end of every post.....
Relax...
And as i said dont comment on somthing you know nothing about, glenroy has been low in B-grade for a long time getting up to A-grade is a big step. Saying they have "no hope" before the first game..........I find that abusive.
As i said, you didn't mention the fact they were saving the money to spend on clubrooms which is fair enough. There are some other clubs around that could take a leaf out of your book on that front. You're right I don't know the internal workings of your club but from an outsiders point of view it seems like bad timing to be coming up to A grade at the same time as spending big money on the club rooms. I don't know that you have no hope but the A grade comp is probably at it's best standard maybe ever so tough comp to be competitive in.... Good luck.
Phantom
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The Moonee Valley council is responsible for allocating grounds so have a go at them. As far as underbelly is concerned maybe you should wear a bullet proof vest under your blouse.
You will also find they had the opportunity to stay down which nearly split the club they will pay less this year around 30k in A grade compared to 40k in B grade problem for them and the league is they have no u18s and 40yr olds running around in the twos they will get flogged and fined from pillar too post finish last in each team only winners will be the teams that belt them and the EDFL coffers with the fines they will have to pay,look for a new rule next year where B clubs will have to justify the jump to A grade,financials team lists etc what a debarcel A grade will be with Marby and glenroy with no 18s and old men running around in the twos. Fact .You cant compete in Agrade unless you have 100k to spend on players and a strong list on and off the field.As i said, you didn't mention the fact they were saving the money to spend on clubrooms which is fair enough. There are some other clubs around that could take a leaf out of your book on that front. You're right I don't know the internal workings of your club but from an outsiders point of view it seems like bad timing to be coming up to A grade at the same time as spending big money on the club rooms. I don't know that you have no hope but the A grade comp is probably at it's best standard maybe ever so tough comp to be competitive in.... Good luck.
mindbender
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How will the EDFL enforce such a rule?? More to the point how will this improve the competition??
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EDFL talks about protecting the integrity of the A grade competition but then fails to ensure clubs coming from B grade meet the criteria. Most would agree the EDFL competition has stepped up a couple of notches with most clubs adjusting and others struggling.
We now have byes in both A & B grade U18 competitions surely this is not beneficial to the league. Time the U18 competition was graded. This may give struggling clubs some chance of building a competitive U18 team. What chance will Marby U18's have getting their arse kicked week in week out. I am no fan of MP but they are in a no win situation courtesy of the EDFL. And yes I believe the rules commitee have met; and changes will be made to the current promotion/relegation system.
In a few weeks the U18 A competition will be down to 8 sides - fantastic effort by the EDFL Board you had your chance to chage it but again too old with NO vision.
mindbender
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If the EDFL does introduce a criteria that insists that B Grade clubs need to show a $100K financial surplus which is avaiable for the following year and a competitive playing list it will destroy the B Grade competition.
So what I hear you say!!
The leauge needs to make changes to the current clearance system to stop A Grade clubs lucky enough to affoard big budgets poaching junior players away from clubs with less financial capability.
For many reason's there is no way such a rule can be introduced into a AMATURE competition...they need to do something but this isn't it.
Not sure which clubs you're referring too regarding the 'poaching' of juniors via the use of cash incentives but I'd like to think there were not many clubs doing that. I know MB have been accused of this in the past. Most of the cashed up clubs throw it at either ex-vfl/afl players or established senior players.
Agree that ALL clubs should be able to protect their junior players from being poached away from them though...
So Marby should stay in B Grade and win 4 flags in a row? Or under 18s play at different grounds to the seniors? Which creates a whole new problem in terms of them being separated from the rest of the club. The EDFL should not be responsible for clubs that spend big on players and create these problems for themselves. Then struggling clubs that top up the reserves with under 18 playing twice are penalised.
Overall the A Grade clubs are strong in the under 18s with obvious exceptions, 18 B's are relatively even with a exceptions.
The EDFL should not be responsible for clubs without proper planning and too much cash.
Aussie_dude
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the edfl rules committee has zero input into the promotion and relegation issue. the promotion and relegation is a power given the edfl board and could have been exercised to keep glenroy or marby in b grade. its a rule that has never been used to my knowledge, but it is there.
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oldfootballer
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Going back a long time in 79, Strathmore dropped to B grade and i don,t think they won the wooden spoon in 78 in A grade but might be wrong I do know they lost the grand final in 79 in B grade to haddy but both teams went into A grade in 80 and i think Strathmore finished Runner up.
mindbender
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If the rule is there then I find it impossible to believe that it can be enforced based on the financial status of a club.
If the EDFL were to set a minimum player budget for a club to be elevated to A Grade they would most certainly have to set a maximum budget....a salary cap. None of which is possible when most payments are undeclared cash in a supposed amature competition.
I agree the EDFL have been invisible in this but there is little they can do.
There is only so much money around in the small geographical location which the EDFL is played in. The clubs with good contacts and dedicated sponsors get it....well done and good on them. The other's try their best but are unable to find the funds to compete.
In the case of Glenroy I would say they are buliding for a better future by investing what money they do have in their facilities, knowing that even if they did spend $120K on players they are still likely to miss the finals this year.....maybe they are not as silly as people think.
canaquarter
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Will you ever post on here without mentioning Marby, your got to move on you pain in the rear!!!!!!
Just face it, the club has moved on in leaps and bounds over the past 5 years (jrs included) and is only a step away from having a full compeditive u18's. Do you think it would of been the right decision to keep Marby in B grade last year? If not why post that crap. Get over it peanut!!!
The EDFL has to be partly to blame for the situation regarding the U18's. Firstly they let Avondale Heights compete in A Grade without U18's not so long ago so they have really dug themselves in hole in regards to banning current teams who struggle in this age group.
I think the most important point is that they have to change the age groups to odd numbers ie. U19's so the competition as a whole stops losing these juniors who don't want to take the next step into seniors and play that extra year in the Ammos. The Ammos would be rubbing their hands together and it is very hard to get these kids back.
From speaking to people from different clubs this is becoming a huge problem if it isn't already.
I think the most important point is that they have to change the age groups to odd numbers ie. U19's so the competition as a whole stops losing these juniors who don't want to take the next step into seniors and play that extra year in the Ammos. The Ammos would be rubbing their hands together and it is very hard to get these kids back.
From speaking to people from different clubs this is becoming a huge problem if it isn't already.
Thatll Do Newto
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mindbender
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Take it anyway you like...I went to Broady West Tech survival was higher on the agenda than English
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