Equal Last!

[partycorolla]

Big .******* deal.
It makes no difference to me whether we finish 9th or last. In fact let's be completely honest.
Last shits on 9th.

Absolutely correct (unless the Bombers get kicked out of the finals again and 9th gets in again!)

 

[partycorolla]

Lol.

You have issues Reaper. I'm not debating with you mate, I ain't even reading the majority of your posts. They are too long and boring.

You're so vain. You probably thought that post was about you.......

Wowser.

Bob, if it's all too horrible why don't bugger off and support someone else or follow netball or hurling or ice hockey. Or why do get qualified and go and work at the club and turn it around yourself..... whinging on some internet forum isn't helping you or the club....

The fact that you say you don't even read some people's posts really indicates that you are replying and contributing without taking people's views into account and therefore showing you are only interested in what you have to say.... which is pretty vain

 

[_Wang_]

We are not equal last we have a fabulous % which will help we we make a charge for the bottom half of the ladder.. Praise Jesus!!

 

[Craze]

Bob, if it's all too horrible why don't bugger off and support someone else or follow netball or hurling or ice hockey. Or why do get qualified and go and work at the club and turn it around yourself..... whinging on some internet forum isn't helping you or the club....

The fact that you say you don't even read some people's posts really indicates that you are replying and contributing without taking people's views into account and therefore showing you are only interested in what you have to say.... which is pretty vain

Get qualified and get employed by the club to help sort out the problem. Are you serious? So we're expected to just tolerate perpetual shitness and be a fan club, get a job at the club, or support another club or another sport? FFS!

 

[djspank]

Quick analysis of the draw coming up and it honestly doesn't look good.

Rich v Syd- LOSS
STK v Rich - 50/50
Rich v Bris - 50/50
Rich v Port - LOSS
WC v Rich - 50/50
Rich v GWS - WIN
Rich v Ess - LOSS
Ade v Rich - LOSS
Rich v STK - 50/50
Syd v Rich - LOSS

1 win, 5 losses, 4 50/50's

So we could at best be 8 wins, 14 losses
At worst 4 wins, 18 losses

Just unlucky this year I spose.

 

[partycorolla]

Get qualified and get employed by the club to help sort out the problem. Are you serious? So we're expected to just tolerate perpetual shitness and be a fan club, get a job at the club, or support another club or another sport? FFS!

If your not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. You don't have to be a fan, you have the right to piss off.... exercise that right if you want. If you aren't prepared to do something about a problem though, you are encouraging it.

Behaviour unchallenged in behaviour reinforced....

But yeah, bleating about it on a footy forum does nothing at all. I doubt it makes anyone feel better....

 

[partycorolla]

Quick analysis of the draw coming up and it honestly doesn't look good.

Rich v Syd- LOSS
STK v Rich - 50/50
Rich v Bris - 50/50
Rich v Port - LOSS
WC v Rich - 50/50
Rich v GWS - WIN
Rich v Ess - LOSS
Ade v Rich - LOSS
Rich v STK - 50/50
Syd v Rich - LOSS

1 win, 5 losses, 4 50/50's

So we could at best be 8 wins, 14 losses
At worst 4 wins, 18 losses

Just unlucky this year I spose.

The saints just got smacked by a team playing worse than when we pushed them to within a goal or 2..... 50/50.... nah put that down as a win. In fact put it down as 2.... Essendon might not have a team or any spirit by the, I'd give that 50/50.

What did you put the Bullies down for against the Pies on the weekend? On exposed form, I'd have rated them as a LOSS, but hey they won.... footy is a funny game sometimes. It's probably in the club's best interest to lose though so I won't be too worried about the results for the rest of 2014.

Season is well and truly shot.... it's all about next year now. Accept this and start looking at in that light and life will become much easier for you.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

Quick analysis of the draw coming up and it honestly doesn't look good.

Rich v Syd- LOSS
STK v Rich - 50/50
Rich v Bris - 50/50
Rich v Port - LOSS
WC v Rich - 50/50
Rich v GWS - WIN
Rich v Ess - LOSS
Ade v Rich - LOSS
Rich v STK - 50/50
Syd v Rich - LOSS

1 win, 5 losses, 4 50/50's

So we could at best be 8 wins, 14 losses
At worst 4 wins, 18 losses

Just unlucky this year I spose.

50/50 against both Brisbane and st Kilda WTF, our worst is still better than their best, we will not lose to those teams and if everything goes to plan we should be getting both those clubs as double up's again 2015.

 

[djspank]

The saints just got smacked by a team playing worse than when we pushed them to within a goal or 2..... 50/50.... nah put that down as a win. In fact put it down as 2.... Essendon might not have a team or any spirit by the, I'd give that 50/50.

What did you put the Bullies down for against the Pies on the weekend? On exposed form, I'd have rated them as a LOSS, but hey they won.... footy is a funny game sometimes. It's probably in the club's best interest to lose though so I won't be too worried about the results for the rest of 2014.

Season is well and truly shot.... it's all about next year now. Accept this and start looking at in that light and life will become much easier for you.

Yeah true anything can happen but if even I were a betting man I still wouldn't deviate from those predictions.

 

[Mr Magic]

50/50 against both Brisbane and st Kilda WTF, our worst is still better than their best, we will not lose to those teams and if everything goes to plan we should be getting both those clubs as double up's again 2015.

We could field development teams and still take St Kilda and Brisbane on the bit!

 

[djspank]

50/50 against both Brisbane and st Kilda WTF, our worst is still better than their best, we will not lose to those teams and if everything goes to plan we should be getting both those clubs as double up's again 2015.

I admire your confidence but I think it's misguided to rate us better than even money in those games. Both teams have classy players who if they fire we are a goner.

 

[Tiger Toffee]

I admire your confidence but I think it's misguided to rate us better than even money in those games. Both teams have classy players who if they fire we are a goner.

Just look at what we are scoring compared to them, GWS put 19 past Brisbane, in 3 weeks we'll put 20 past them with ease, as for St Kilda please, have you even seen them play this year, our 2010 team would beat the 2014 saints.

 

[partycorolla]

Yeah true anything can happen but if even I were a betting man I still wouldn't deviate from those predictions.

Probably why you aren't a betting man! They are always deviating from other's predictions!

I agree with your losses other than the Essendon one which I'd rate at 50/50.

 

[Tigerbob]

If your not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. You don't have to be a fan, you have the right to piss off.... exercise that right if you want. If you aren't prepared to do something about a problem though, you are encouraging it.

Behaviour unchallenged in behaviour reinforced....

But yeah, bleating about it on a footy forum does nothing at all. I doubt it makes anyone feel better....

You take the importance of a view on a forum way too seriously.

It's a forum we express our views. I don't have to read posts and I don't expect people to read mine.

I don't tolerate shit and I couldn't care less if others hated me.

This is not real life and certainly not my life. I appreciate friends I have made on here but mate, if you think I'm here to please people and care what you think then you are mistaken.

I have my views and I will express them. If the club don't like them or others don't like them, I ain't apologizing.

The other thing you should know before you tell fans to pack up and leave because they don't support the current regime....

28 year member who has never left. In that time, players and coaches have come and gone. We are the owners of this club.

In short.

**** you and **** your opinion.

 

[djspank]

Ok Saints are shite I'll give you that. Brissy knocked over Doggies and Carltank, the way we are playing they will not be a pushover.

 

[Mr Magic]

Ok Saints are shite I'll give you that. Brissy knocked over Doggies and Carltank, the way we are playing they will not be a pushover.

Didn't see the Dogs match but Carlton should have by 40 points at least and Saints should have beat Brisbane in Auckland

 

[partycorolla]

You take the importance of a view on a forum way too seriously.

It's a forum we express our views. I don't have to read posts and I don't expect people to read mine.

I don't tolerate shit and I couldn't care less if others hated me.

This is not real life and certainly not my life. I appreciate friends I have made on here but mate, if you think I'm here to please people and care what you think then you are mistaken.

I have my views and I will express them. If the club don't like them or others don't like them, I ain't apologizing.

The other thing you should know before you tell fans to pack up and leave because they don't support the current regime....

28 year member who has never left. In that time, players and coaches have come and gone. We are the owners of this club.

In short.

**** you and **** your opinion.

Ooh, hit a sore point. I suggest you learn to read Bob before posting things that clearly indicate your lack of ability to do so. When did I tell anyone to piss off and stop supporting the club? I suggested that every supporter had the right to do so.... and that if it's that painful for them, maybe they could save that pain by leaving.

I respect your right to an opinion and will defend your right to have one. I wouldn't want you to apologise for it. I do not however wish to fornicate with you as you suggested or in fact do so with an opinion, not really sure how that is possible..... but thanks for reinforcing my opinion of your argumentative skills.

I don't take the importance of a forum particularly seriously at all. I enjoy watching and reading the meltdowns on here and also debating the worth and performance or not of players, coaches and officials alike. I just like to do it on a non-emotive basis, usual rational arguments, not just emotive diatribes (not that you are the only one on here capable of that and do it far less than others).

If we are the owners of the club, then perhaps we are to blame for it's current predicament or the last 32 years.....You've handed over money year after year, without demanding results, you've accepted mediocrity without punishment. You've reinforced the club culture of failure. Shame.... but you aren't alone in that. Maybe we are just fans and we deal in hope.... when that hope isn't realised, we become disappointed.

 

[dktm]

What could pick 1 get us?

Nathan Fyfe from Freo in a trade

 

[rado]

Everyone knows our season is finished. I could handle it a lot more watching guys like arnot, miles, helbig, ohanlon than seeing Newman, petterd, Matt Thomas, Grigg and Chaplin running around.
Sadly dimma feels compelled to get us to ninth spot by continuing to play players that will not take us forward, and that to me is a lot more frustrating now than our ladder position.

 

[kozi]

"Funnily enough, I have no idea what I'm doing"

 

[dktm]

"I have no idea what I'm doing"

" But we did reach our KPI`s this week...............................................Funnily enough "

 

[prodigy1311]

Really? I think if you're predominately talking about this season, you'd have to say that Jack Riewoldt has portrayed the characteristics of a "downhill skier" more than Deledio has.

Apart from his 11 goal haul against the Giants, he has been the king of junk-time goals this season. That's not to say that he isn't a valuable player, or that he isn't apart of our future, but from your criteria of "when the chips are down", I have rarely seen Jack kick goals that have kept us alive in matches this season.

Also, Cotchin and Rance have struggled with their DE all year, and are the constant cause of turnovers "when the chips are down"

What I HAVE seen, is Deledio's run and elite use of the ball get us back into matches, and while it is true that he does have a tough time breaking tags sometimes, I also think he's improved in this area in 2014 too.

Deledio's importance to our team was summed up when he was absent from our team, and our run was practically non-existent. I would almost go as far as to say that if Deledio had been in the team all year, we may not have dropped the Western Bulldogs or Melbourne games (Western Bulldogs because he wasn't there, and Melbourne because, while he did play, I don't think he was at 100% match fitness).

I actually feel that Deledio and Martin have been our two most important players so far this season, Martin obviously more-so because he's played almost every game, but Deledio because his injury, and subsequent lack of match fitness when he returned, hurt us immensely. And I would think Martin would be leading the B&F at the moment.

Well said Buddy! I feel lids is always on the firing line no matter how he plays. Most people here underestimate his value and i am thankful that RFC thinks otherwise. Every other club will rate lids as the tigers most influential player and tag him to shut down the run & carry. I have no doubt that lids, cotch & Jack will lead us to our next flag but until we review the remaining list things are looking very bleak..!

 

[Goldfrog]

Everyone knows our season is finished. I could handle it a lot more watching guys like arnot, miles, helbig, ohanlon than seeing Newman, petterd, Matt Thomas, Grigg and Chaplin running around.
Sadly dimma feels compelled to get us to ninth spot by continuing to play players that will not take us forward, and that to me is a lot more frustrating now than our ladder position.

One positive thing that Dimma could do, if he really felt some responsibility, would be to offer his resignation. Which we should accept, and pay him out half of his contract, as a guesture. Both parties win and lose a bit financially in that way.This isn't the complete answer, but there wouldn't be many who would think that Dimma is going to take the club any further than he has.
Up until this year, he has been ok, but it stands out this year that he isn't good enough. Words such as "adequate", average" "middle of the road" probably describe it best.
We may struggle to get someone better, but we are going nowhere this way. AND, if Dimma resigns, a new coach just might bring some better fitness people, and development coaches. Which wouldn't seem like a really difficult task. Combine that with a fresh approach (read personnel) to recruiting and we MIGHT get back on track.
Or we could just keep going the way we are!!!!!!

 

[Goldfrog]

One positive thing that Dimma could do, if he really felt some responsibility, would be to offer his resignation. Which we should accept, and pay him out half of his contract, as a guesture. Both parties win and lose a bit financially in that way.This isn't the complete answer, but there wouldn't be many who would think that Dimma is going to take the club any further than he has.
Up until this year, he has been ok, but it stands out this year that he isn't good enough. Words such as "adequate", average" "middle of the road" probably describe it best.
We may struggle to get someone better, but we are going nowhere this way. AND, if Dimma resigns, a new coach just might bring some better fitness people, and development coaches. Which wouldn't seem like a really difficult task. Combine that with a fresh approach (read personnel) to recruiting and we MIGHT get back on track.
Or we could just keep going the way we are!!!!!!

And we could possibly re employ him as an assistant coach.

 

[ReaperX]

We all know we can play better than what we have shown, and the proof of that is in the reaction we have had to this season.

If we all seriously thought half the stuff we're saying about how our future is bleak and gone, then nobody would have expectations, and if nobody had expectations for this team, why would anybody be surprised or annoyed about the poor results this year?

So why do we have these expectations? What are they built on?

They are built on Dimma's 4 years of continued and exciting development of our list from a hopeless, bottom of the ladder list, to a finals and potential Top 4 contender last year. One bad year doesn't undo all of that good work.

In 2010, the results were poor due to our list being in shambles and rebuilding. In 2014, the results are not poor due to a list being in shambles, they are poor because of a mixture of bad timing and some mistakes regarding our gameplan earlier in the year. The list quality is still there, and provided we do another solid year of drafting, and maybe land a good quality FA at the end of this year, there is no reason why the talent on this list can't take us to the finals in 2015 and beyond.

If the results are the same this time next year, the discussion should be had. But this year it's pointless and not helpful, so why can't we just support the club and enjoy the rollercoaster ride, even if it is making us a bit sick at the moment!