Ever wish you were never born?

[Power Raid]

No offence OP but you'd be one of the babies that the Spartans threw off a cliff.

booo

 

[Lethality]

No offence OP but you'd be one of the babies that the Spartans threw off a cliff.

I visited that cliff once.

They didn't drop them off a cliff though, they just left them to die in the wilderness. Some older boys were thrown off the cliff as punishment. If they broke their legs in the fall they'd be crippled and would die of starvation, otherwise they survived.

 

[Lethality]

Does posting here help?

Yes, it gives me some perspective and I like to hear other people's stories.

 

[Lethality]

Maybe I should make a friend of horror. This monologue speaks to me.

 

[Zarrix]

Not wish that I wasn't born, but rather born as something else not human. I always wish I was a duck around exam time, for example.

 

[Jobe Watson]

I don't wish I was never born, and don't want to kill myself, but I have a really pessimistic view on life I guess. Life really is pointless.

You're born, you go to school, you get a job, you slave away at said job until you're old and your best days physically are behind you, you retire, you sit around filling your days waiting for death, then you die. It's such a boring template life that 90% of the developed world, and myself, will have to live. And that's if you're lucky enough to avoid being born into poverty, developing some life threatening disease or any of the numerous thousands of terrible circumstances most of the world find themselves in.

Sure I'll travel to some places, have some great experiences, have great friends over the journey, have some great long-term girlfriends, maybe get married and have kids. But really, for the majority of my life I'll have to spend 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year working a job I hate just to live in relative comfort. I'll never be ridiculously rich. I'll never find the cure for cancer or invent some world-changing technology or change the world for the better. I'll never have the free time or money to do everything I want to do while I'm still young. I'll never be able to just simply pick up everything and go live in New York, or LA, or London or wherever I want to willy nilly. I'll never be able to just do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it.

I'm here now so I have to try to make the most of it but in the end, whether I spend my entire life working hard or sitting in bed all day every day surfing the net, whether I become filthy rich or live in poverty, whether I travel the world 10 times over or never leave Australia... I'll die and none of it will have mattered.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Sounds like your problem would be solved just by having a better job that you actually enjoy.

 

[TooUglyForFugly]

If there's one thing I'd tell young men about young women it's that there's at least 50 girls who you could fall in love with living in your city. That sounds cynical, but the main reason long-term relationships flourish is - believe it or not - convenience. People get so used to one another that they can't fathom an existence without the other. If your ~20, which it sounds like you are, then forget her. Go out. Talk to any cute girl you see. All time is fleeting and I shan't have you wasting it yearning for the contact of some dime-a-dozen (sorry if that sounds harsh) young lady. Again, sorry if that sounds harsh but the reality is you just haven't met nor spoken to enough girls to realise that there's so many cool ones out there.

Too bad I'm uglier than a mutated bulldog on the outside and just as repulsive inside.

 

[PaddyO]

I feel that the best way to kill myself would be to take some valium, drink a bottle of alcohol and sit on a bridge until i just fall off with drunkenness. I don't have any immediate plans, but that is my backup plan.

https://www.eheadspace.org.au/

Log on and talk. How old are you?

 

[CatMarie]

I feel that the best way to kill myself would be to take some valium, drink a bottle of alcohol and sit on a bridge until i just fall off with drunkenness. I don't have any immediate plans, but that is my backup plan.

Can't like this . If you are serious, Get out side, go for a walk , talk to people, try to find something good to be grateful for . Little things add up. There are so many good things you could do . And it is corny, but it does make you feel better

 

[crownie]

I don't wish I was never born, and don't want to kill myself, but I have a really pessimistic view on life I guess. Life really is pointless.

its what you make it.

 

[edgie]

Why is going outside always the solution? When I was feeling down a while back, I can say that burying my head in video games actually helped quite a bit.

 

[CatMarie]

Why is going outside always the solution? When I was feeling down a while back, I can say that burying my head in video games actually helped quite a bit.

I guess some of the idea is to get your mind onto things , away from what troubles you. What ever works Games would be good , as the few that I have played take a lot of mental involvement and that can also blow the yips away

 

[Power Raid]

Life really is pointless.

Even for the happiest and most successful, it is still pointless in the grand scheme of things.

but why not enjoy it for what it offers?

 

[JuddsABlue]

Sure I'll travel to some places, have some great experiences, have great friends over the journey, have some great long-term girlfriends, maybe get married and have kids. But really, for the majority of my life I'll have to spend 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year working a job I hate just to live in relative comfort. I'll never be ridiculously rich. I'll never find the cure for cancer or invent some world-changing technology or change the world for the better. I'll never have the free time or money to do everything I want to do while I'm still young. I'll never be able to just simply pick up everything and go live in New York, or LA, or London or wherever I want to willy nilly. I'll never be able to just do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it.

Why not?

 

[chugginon]

Sure I'll travel to some places, have some great experiences, have great friends over the journey, have some great long-term girlfriends, maybe get married and have kids. But really, for the majority of my life I'll have to spend 5 days a week, 50 weeks a year working a job I hate just to live in relative comfort. I'll never be ridiculously rich. I'll never find the cure for cancer or invent some world-changing technology or change the world for the better. I'll never have the free time or money to do everything I want to do while I'm still young. I'll never be able to just simply pick up everything and go live in New York, or LA, or London or wherever I want to willy nilly. I'll never be able to just do whatever I want to do whenever I want to do it.

I'm here now so I have to try to make the most of it but in the end, whether I spend my entire life working hard or sitting in bed all day every day surfing the net, whether I become filthy rich or live in poverty, whether I travel the world 10 times over or never leave Australia... I'll die and none of it will have mattered.

My Gosh Why do you think what you do doesn't matter, mate? How can you run yourself down like this ?I am sorry, but the top paragraph has some wonderful aims in it. You are obviously young enough for you to put into action a lot of that , and have them happen . Even if you just make someone smile or laugh, or have them say thank you to you for something you have done .. THAT MATTERS . Hugely . I would say you have a good mind , with the list you have put up . It is a good one I am sorry, but I hate seeing someone that thinks what they do doesn't matter. You and what you do, matters

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Cherish every moment you have!

 

[Jobe Watson]

Why not?

Because most of that stuff requires either ridiculous luck or ridiculous talent/smarts and I have neither. Maybe I'll one day be able to live in an overseas, world-class city - if I can find an overseas job in this shitty economy; a job that needs to be able to pay for an ever-increasing cost of living.

Even for the happiest and most successful, it is still pointless in the grand scheme of things.

but why not enjoy it for what it offers?

I do enjoy my life for what it is. I have it very good and it's not like I sit around all day moping. It's just that when it all boils down to it, in 75 years (if I'm lucky) I'll be dead and that will be that. Then a new wave of humans will rule the Earth, then eventually they'll all die, and so on. All we're really doing is just passing the time until death, and it sucks that the minuscule amount of time I have to live on and enjoy this planet will be largely spent doing stuff I don't want to do; working a job I wouldn't work if I didn't need the money to survive, having to face and [hopefully] overcome financial challenges created by people who have come before me, dealing with all the daily stresses involved in living in this modern world.

It's just that I'm getting to that age (18-22) where I'm starting to realise the world isn't all it's cracked up to be. From here until I die, life is a constant struggle full of challenges.

My Gosh Why do you think what you do doesn't matter, mate? How can you run yourself down like this ?I am sorry, but the top paragraph has some wonderful aims in it. You are obviously young enough for you to put into action a lot of that , and have them happen . Even if you just make someone smile or laugh, or have them say thank you to you for something you have done .. THAT MATTERS . Hugely . I would say you have a good mind , with the list you have put up . It is a good one I am sorry, but I hate seeing someone that thinks what they do doesn't matter. You and what you do, matters

As I said, I enjoy my life for what it is. Even a shitty life is better than the alternative of eternal nothingness. But even if I enjoy the little things in life and have some great experiences every now and then, it'll never be the life I truly want to be living. I'll never own that Lamborghini, never live in that New York penthouse apartment, never date that supermodel, never travel and see every place I wish to see. That life is reserved for the 1% lucky enough to find themselves in the right circumstances - hard work can only get you so far. Truth is I'll probably live a boring middle class life in a boring middle class suburb working 5 days a week scrapping barely enough cash to pay for the mortgage and the bills. A better life than 90% of the world, but still not how I want to be spending my short insignificant time on this planet.

It's probably a very entitled view of what life should be, but I just hate the fact that, short of somehow becoming a decamillionaire, I'll never be able to spend my life truly doing whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

 

[Power Raid]

Because most of that stuff requires either ridiculous luck or ridiculous talent/smarts and I have neither. Maybe I'll one day be able to live in an overseas, world-class city - if I can find an overseas job in this shitty economy; a job that needs to be able to pay for an ever-increasing cost of living.


I do enjoy my life for what it is. I have it very good and it's not like I sit around all day moping. It's just that when it all boils down to it, in 75 years (if I'm lucky) I'll be dead and that will be that. Then a new wave of humans will rule the Earth, then eventually they'll all die, and so on. All we're really doing is just passing the time until death, and it sucks that the minuscule amount of time I have to live on and enjoy this planet will be largely spent doing stuff I don't want to do; working a job I wouldn't work if I didn't need the money to survive, having to face and [hopefully] overcome financial challenges created by people who have come before me, dealing with all the daily stresses involved in living in this modern world.

It's just that I'm getting to that age (18-22) where I'm starting to realise the world isn't all it's cracked up to be. From here until I die, life is a constant struggle full of challenges.


As I said, I enjoy my life for what it is. Even a shitty life is better than the alternative of eternal nothingness. But even if I enjoy the little things in life and have some great experiences every now and then, it'll never be the life I truly want to be living. I'll never own that Lamborghini, never live in that New York penthouse apartment, never date that supermodel, never travel and see every place I wish to see. That life is reserved for the 1% lucky enough to find themselves in the right circumstances - hard work can only get you so far. Truth is I'll probably live a boring middle class life in a boring middle class suburb working 5 days a week scrapping barely enough cash to pay for the mortgage and the bills. A better life than 90% of the world, but still not how I want to be spending my short insignificant time on this planet.

It's probably a very entitled view of what life should be, but I just hate the fact that, short of somehow becoming a decamillionaire, I'll never be able to spend my life truly doing whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

Whatever the world is or isn't you still have 10 or so years up your sleeve before "most" have a chance of experiencing it for what it is. The question is, are you prepared to have a shot at it or will you choose the comfort of the suburbs, get married, have kids and shackle yourself with a mortgage? both are great but offer very different experiences.

oh and money isn't everything but you would be surprised how easy it is to make $0.5m in a week if you get yourself in the right place at the right time.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Because most of that stuff requires either ridiculous luck or ridiculous talent/smarts and I have neither. Maybe I'll one day be able to live in an overseas, world-class city - if I can find an overseas job in this shitty economy; a job that needs to be able to pay for an ever-increasing cost of living.


I do enjoy my life for what it is. I have it very good and it's not like I sit around all day moping. It's just that when it all boils down to it, in 75 years (if I'm lucky) I'll be dead and that will be that. Then a new wave of humans will rule the Earth, then eventually they'll all die, and so on. All we're really doing is just passing the time until death, and it sucks that the minuscule amount of time I have to live on and enjoy this planet will be largely spent doing stuff I don't want to do; working a job I wouldn't work if I didn't need the money to survive, having to face and [hopefully] overcome financial challenges created by people who have come before me, dealing with all the daily stresses involved in living in this modern world.

It's just that I'm getting to that age (18-22) where I'm starting to realise the world isn't all it's cracked up to be. From here until I die, life is a constant struggle full of challenges.


As I said, I enjoy my life for what it is. Even a shitty life is better than the alternative of eternal nothingness. But even if I enjoy the little things in life and have some great experiences every now and then, it'll never be the life I truly want to be living. I'll never own that Lamborghini, never live in that New York penthouse apartment, never date that supermodel, never travel and see every place I wish to see. That life is reserved for the 1% lucky enough to find themselves in the right circumstances - hard work can only get you so far. Truth is I'll probably live a boring middle class life in a boring middle class suburb working 5 days a week scrapping barely enough cash to pay for the mortgage and the bills. A better life than 90% of the world, but still not how I want to be spending my short insignificant time on this planet.

It's probably a very entitled view of what life should be, but I just hate the fact that, short of somehow becoming a decamillionaire, I'll never be able to spend my life truly doing whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

Dude at your age get a degree/trade and head overseas. Do it, now.

 

[Run n Spread]

Agree

teen years are about education and having fun,

twenties are about having fun getting laid and consolidating your education with experience,

30s are for setting up your life focusing on what you really want in life (which may include a partner).

40s and 50s are when you are smart enough, focused enough, experienced enough and have the capital to do whatever you want. These are the best years of your life.



I wish more people would slow down and just enjoy the journey.

Life doesn't always go in a linear pattern like that thou. Things travel up, down sideways or wherever for whatever reasons and things can go haywire for different reasons. While ideally the above looks great on paper it isn't always possible.

Whatever the world is or isn't you still have 10 or so years up your sleeve before "most" have a chance of experiencing it for what it is. The question is, are you prepared to have a shot at it or will you choose the comfort of the suburbs, get married, have kids and shackle yourself with a mortgage? both are great but offer very different experiences.

oh and money isn't everything but you would be surprised how easy it is to make $0.5m in a week if you get yourself in the right place at the right time.

Agree with the first paragraph. You have choices and there is no need to follow someone elses template if you generally don't want to.

Second paragraph I disagree. Maybe I'm getting old and cynical but money is everything after a point in time and unless you are lucky it is not always so easy to make. There are a lot of factors at play.

Because most of that stuff requires either ridiculous luck or ridiculous talent/smarts and I have neither. Maybe I'll one day be able to live in an overseas, world-class city - if I ca

It's just that I'm getting to that age (18-22) where I'm starting to realise the world isn't all it's cracked up to be. From here until I die, life is a constant struggle full of challenges.


As I said, I enjoy my life for what it is. Even a shitty life is better than the alternative of eternal nothingness. But even if I enjoy the little things in life and have some great experiences every now and then, it'll never be the life I truly want to be living. I'll never own that Lamborghini, never live in that New York penthouse apartment, never date that supermodel, never travel and see every place I wish to see. That life is reserved for the 1% lucky enough to find themselves in the right circumstances - hard work can only get you so far. Truth is I'll probably live a boring middle class life in a boring middle class suburb working 5 days a week scrapping barely enough cash to pay for the mortgage and the bills. A better life than 90% of the world, but still not how I want to be spending my short insignificant time on this planet.

It's probably a very entitled view of what life should be, but I just hate the fact that, short of somehow becoming a decamillionaire, I'll never be able to spend my life truly doing whatever I want to do, whenever I want to do it.

Dude you seem youngish. Although very correct imo in a lot of what you say. Without meaning to sound patronising you seem aware of the pitfalls. If you don't want the marriage, mortgage etc don't have them You just have to have the courage of your convictions to stand your ground. Take the hit now for short term pain if others are pushing for it as when you get older options can narrow.

True odds are you won't be a millionare or marry a supermodel but at least chart your life in the direction you want it to go.

 

[Run n Spread]

In answer to the OPs question no I don't wish I was never born as experience counts for something I guess. Still while acknowledging a lucky country, fortunate circumstance etc that is not to say things can't improve/be improved. Also yeah at times I have wondered about why the fu$# I'm here/still plugging away but that is only normal I guess.

Best you can do is have a go and hope things work, enjoy what is good while being aware of the fact sometimes life is sh#@ things don't go your way and death could happen at any day. May as well be in it to win it and keep swinging.

 

[Run n Spread]

I've made a word to myself that I'll never end my own life. As deep as my depression has been or will get.

My depression isn't close to as bad as other peoples, but I just feel so empty and alone a majority of the time. As of right now, the one person I have ever 'loved', just straight up ignores me and avoids me. She doesn't admit it, she says she is like this to everyone, but she talks to everyone else like they are best friends.

We used to be the greatest of friends, talked everyday, enjoyed every minute of it, both of us. But over the last couple of months, she doesn't put any effort into messaging me. When she actually does message me that is.

A couple of weeks ago, she went on a very large tirade of how bad of a person I am, it started off that everything she says was true, but by the end, she was just saying things that I have never done, said or thought.

I feel she was missed opputunity, when we became friends, I never thought I would want her as anything more, but the closer and closer we became, the more I wanted her, and the less she wanted me. Everyone thought we were 'together', because we were always with each other, but really, I was just too awkward to ask her out or anything.

I know I should move on, and I have tried, but it's hard for someone so socially awkward as myself. That's why she was so good to me, for the first time in as long as I could remember, someone who took me in and once cared for me. That same person now doesn't want anything to do with me. And she doesn't tell me why.

It's so ******* painful to have the person you want to talk to most, blatantly ignore you. I don't wish this feeling upon anyone.

Hate to be direct and sound like a teenager but dude you are in the friend zone/ she is not interested. Yes it is no doubt a kick in the nuts but don't worry so much now about pleasing others/women but focus on what you want. Do your own thing for a while develop your own pattern then re assess. Getting hung up on what others want at all costs can actually be detrimental.

 

[Run n Spread]

I don't know about that. My grandfather wasn't so excited by the depression, the Russian front and the invasion of communism.

The reality is, life has never been so good for so many. The question still remains, how do we continue to improve.

Interesting. Very true life has been/is a living hell for many many people and continues to get worse. If I was in a position like that I would truly wish I'd never been born. Yet at the same time there are those struggling even in a rich country like Australia. So to say look around you we have never had it so good would only depress them further. In any society I guess there are winners and losers but it isn't much fun been a loser.

I think in today's world even royals circa 400 years ago could never have dreamt of the luxuries but for others they could never have dreamt of the horrors. Thou the world has always been cruel and unforgiving just have to find your way around it/ improve and improvise when you can.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

http://www.philosophybasics.com/branch_existentialism.html