Father/Son

[Arcassius]

Couldnt see a thread anywhere discussing this - but I was curious how the F/S rule works for Freo. What are the current concessions and limitations?

 

[Farrand]

Until October 2015 we can pick any player whose father played a minimum of 150 games for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swans District. Although I am not sure if the Bryce Gibbs rule applies to this.

 

[Arcassius]

Until October 2015 we can pick any player whose father played a minimum of 150 games for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swans District. Although I am not sure if the Bryce Gibbs rule applies to this.

cheers

What were the concessions granted to the Eagles? They had access to a wider pool?

 

[Nickos66]

For the ignorant, what is the Bryce Gibbs rule?

 

[Taylor]

For the ignorant, what is the Bryce Gibbs rule?

Despite his father's 253-game career with Glenelg, Gibbs was ineligible to be taken by the Adelaide Crows under the Father-Son Rule, much to the Crows' chagrin, because he had not yet played 200 of those games when the Adelaide Crows entered the Australian Football League in 1991. Gibbs was subsequently selected with the first overall pick in the 2006 AFL Draft (held on 25 November 2006) by Carlton, a selection which was widely expected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bryce_Gibbs_(Australian_rules_footballer)

 

[Nickos66]

Wow.. ******ation there.

 

[Scotland]

cheers

What were the concessions granted to the Eagles? They had access to a wider pool?

I seem to recall we mad a mish-mash system of picking players whose fathers played in the WAFL and/or VFL.

The players we haved drafted under the F/S rule are Ashley McIntosh (Father played for St Kilda/Claremont), Ben Cousins (Geelong/Perth), Mitch Morton (Claremont) and (shortly) Jacob Brennan.

McIntosh was pre-Freo and I can't recall whether he came to us based on his father's career with St Kilda or Claremont.

Cousins was eligible to be taken by Freo, WC or Geelong under the rules at the time and chose WC. Again, I can't recall if it was 67 games with Geelong or 200+ with Perth by Bryan Cousins which made him eligible for the WA clubs.

Morton was drafted under the current criteria (excluding the bidding process and Bryce Gibbs rule), based on his father's career with Claremont. Since the criteria change one year later his brothers were not eligible to be drafted by us under the rule.

Thankfully time alone will solve the problems associated with the rule which has been poorly administered since the VFL expanded.

 

[go_the_dockers]

Are there any potential father/sons picks for fremantle in the next 3-4 years?

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Until October 2015 we can pick any player whose father played a minimum of 150 games for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swans District. Although I am not sure if the Bryce Gibbs rule applies to this.

You sure?

I thought it was 2014 - which would be the 20th year

 

[PurpleGreenRed]

Are there any potential father/sons picks for fremantle in the next 3-4 years?

Hope Shane Parker just has girls!

 

[dugrene]

Found a thread from earlier this year.

Father - Son

 

[Scham]

Are there any potential father/sons picks for fremantle in the next 3-4 years?

Dale Kicketts boys should be around the right age in the next couple of years. Not sure if they'll be good enough though?

 

[Rob]

I seem to recall we mad a mish-mash system of picking players whose fathers played in the WAFL and/or VFL.

The players we haved drafted under the F/S rule are Ashley McIntosh (Father played for St Kilda/Claremont), Ben Cousins (Geelong/Perth), Mitch Morton (Claremont) and (shortly) Jacob Brennan.

McIntosh was pre-Freo and I can't recall whether he came to us based on his father's career with St Kilda or Claremont.

Cousins was eligible to be taken by Freo, WC or Geelong under the rules at the time and chose WC. Again, I can't recall if it was 67 games with Geelong or 200+ with Perth by Bryan Cousins which made him eligible for the WA clubs.

Cousins was eligible for Freo because he was an East Freo player - we could have picked him up as a zone selection. It was the games his dad played for Perth that made him eligible for F/S selection for WC, and obviously the Geelong games gave him F/S eligibility for Geelong.

In any case. F/S isn't the gift selection it used to be. The Dogs don't have a draft pick until about number 55 because they were forced to use their first 2 on F/S selections on Wallis and Liberatore. All you need is one club to rate the player highly and you have to give up a high draft pick. No-one rated Brennan, that's why it's cost the Eagles nothing.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Dale Kicketts boys should be around the right age in the next couple of years. Not sure if they'll be good enough though?

Jeff Farmer's eldest boy is 14 now - apparently can play a bit.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

Jeff Farmer's eldest boy is 14 now - apparently can play a bit.

did jeffrey play enough games for us to qualify? i have a feeling he didnt

 

[paul8241]

did jeffrey play enough games for us to qualify? i have a feeling he didnt

131 - Freo
118 - Melbourne

 

[ImperialPurple]

did jeffrey play enough games for us to qualify? i have a feeling he didnt

131 - Freo
118 - Melbourne

Yep. He could choose either Freo or Melbourne as a F/S with over 100 games for both clubs.

 

[Kickett Punches Read]

ah great news guys thanks. it suprises me that he played that many games for us given his history with afl suspension, club suspension and the odd groin/back injury.

 

[estibador]

Yep. He could choose either Freo or Melbourne as a F/S with over 100 games for both clubs.

And the good news for us is there's no way he'd choose Melbourne, considering he lives in WA and would barely have been old enough to remember his Dad playing for the Dees.

 

[willoblue]

i just wish there was a father son rule for supporters who have followed their team for 20 years (he is still 10)

 

[chinggis77]

We are behind the Eastern States clubs when it comes to the father-son rule.

Over here they are all actively nurturing the sons of former players via special academy's and what not. Hird was coach of one such academy at the Bombers this year prior to his recent appointment. The Bulldogs are also doing their bit with 23 sons of eligible players being nurtered:

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bulldogs-nurturing-their-promising-pups-20101115-17udk.html

We would probably be lucky to have 5-10?

Criteria:

• Until October 31 2015, Fremantle can select any player whose father has made 150 WAFL appearances for East Fremantle, South Fremantle, Perth or Swan Districts.
• Thereafter player needs to play 100 games with Freo to qualify their sons

Current former players who have qualified their sons (if they have any):

• Pav
• Michael Johnson
• Lukey Mac
• Groves
• Hayden
• Mundy
• Sandy
• Schammer
• Bandy
• Bell
• Black
• Troy Cook
• Matt Carr
• Jeff Farmer
• Haselby
• Steven Dodd
• Des Headland
• Dale Kickett
• Justin Longmuir
• Shaun Mcmanus
• Jason Norris
• Clive Waterhouse - has a young family - not sure how many/any boys
• James Walker

WAFL Players who have qualified sons (got this off Dockerland, thanks to whoever posted it - I have added comments in red):

• A Barich
• Rod Barrett
• Steve Bazzo (not sure when he played his 150th for Swans)
• Clinton Browning
• Noel Carter (depends on how many games <1975) - there is a Carter of draftable age running around for Souths I think.
• Brad Collard - has 4 girls
• Brian Cousins -
• Craig Edwards
• Shane Elli
• Don Langsford,
• Graham Melrose (maybe, played 214 games for East & Swans from 67 to 83... probably not enough in the timeframe needed),
• Stephen Michael - we got Clem - pity Clem didn't play 100 games
• Tom Mullooly
• Gerard Neesham (does 79 for Easts and 97 for Swans count?)
• Stan Nowotny (depending on how many post 1975),
• Brian Peake - we got Brett
• Stephen Pears (again, two teams, maybe not 150 by 1995) - Tayte Pears father?
• Maurice Rioli - Richmond also eligible
• Bill Skirowski &amp
• Rob Wiley.

Anyone know how many games Michael Mitchell played for Claremont before he headed east?

Looks like the window for past WAFL players is closed. Got to look to the past AFL players now. Come on Jeff Junior, Kickett Junior and Clive Junior!!!!