Society/Culture Feminism part 1 - continued in part 2

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Define dangerous. Both are still reducing gender down to sexual objectification.

Look at the rates of sexual assault and domestic violence committed against women.

Look saying that both acts are equivalent is just dumb. It's like the argument that's made that a black dude calling another black the N word is just as bad as a white dude calling a black dude the N word.

Insisting both acts have the same impact is socially and historically blind.

 

[Raz0r6ack]

Look at the rates of sexual assault and domestic violence committed against women.

Look saying that both acts are equivalent is just dumb. It's like the argument that's made that a black dude calling another black the N word is just as bad as a white dude calling a black dude the N word.

Insisting both acts have the same impact is socially and historically blind.

By a minority of men.

Finding a stranger attractive does not make you a sexual offender.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Finding a stranger attractive does not make you a sexual offender.

Who suggested that?

 

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

im still sure I'll be waiting a while to see a male tennis player twirl on the court, or be asked to

For only one gender though, yes?
Will Nadal be asked the same?

My point is she was asked something that will never be asked of to a male player ...it made her uncomfortable...it was unnecessary .. Regardless of words used.

Nadal quizzed about his attire and then asked to flex during on-court interview (3:30):



Nadal asked to take his top off during Kia Open Drive segment (0:56):

 

[WeetBixKid]

So we are still pretending that a) objectification of males is as dangerous as vice versa and b) as prevalent?

Agree. Women are more threatened by objectification, domestic violence etc. Let's not compare them, because it's clear that womencan't look after themselves. They're basically big children and should be treated as such.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Agree. Women are more threatened by objectification, domestic violence etc. Let's not compare them, because it's clear that womencan't look after themselves. They're basically big children and should be treated as such.

Why don't you think domestic violence is a serious issue?

 

[WeetBixKid]

Who suggested that?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Who suggested that?

Well you made a smart arsed throwaway comment after passing over the issue of domestic violence.

 

[WeetBixKid]

#1 That doesn't mean I don't think it's serious (how many similar comments are made about war, murder, rape etc)
#2 It's a fair criticism of your position

 

[kfc1]

Look at the rates of sexual assault and domestic violence committed against women.

Look saying that both acts are equivalent is just dumb. It's like the argument that's made that a black dude calling another black the N word is just as bad as a white dude calling a black dude the N word.

Insisting both acts have the same impact is socially and historically blind.

Treating someone different solely due to their gender and race. Hmmm

 

[telsor]

Treating someone different solely due to their gender and race. Hmmm

It's OK so long as you're defending the weak...except you can never say they're weak because they're equal...except for being defenseless victims.

 

[clogged]

Look at the rates of sexual assault and domestic violence committed against women.

Whoahhhhh non sequitur!

 

[Vic Vinegar]

Women are not weak, far from it. Every woman can say no.

Eugenie Bouchard could have said no, and she would have been applauded for it.. Instead, she thought about the millions of dollars she was being paid, as an attractive woman, to flirt sperficially with the guys out there who effectively pay her wages.

Women dont want to be objectified, fine.Then stop reaping millions of dollars over the exact quality you hate.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Women are not weak, far from it. Every woman can say no.

Eugenie Bouchard could have said no, and she would have been applauded for it.. Instead, she thought about the millions of dollars she was being paid, as an attractive woman, to flirt sperficially with the guys out there who effectively pay her wages.

Women dont want to be objectified, fine.Then stop reaping millions of dollars over the exact quality you hate.

Ignoring gender momentarily, to suggest that agency is an absolute is simply an uninformed opinion.

 

[Lester Burnham]

Well you made a smart arsed throwaway comment after passing over the issue of domestic violence.

Given your history do you really think you should be presenting yourself as the poster boy for feminism?

 

[tesseract]

Given your history do you really think you should be presenting yourself as the poster boy for feminism?

Given who KV has chosen as an avatar he can't be taken seriously on issues of DV, for his avatar makes a mockery of the issue. KV speaks of DV against women, then at the same time figuratively pisses on these same women by means of displaying a wife basher for an avatar.

With the massive amounts of hypocrisy that feminism has been shown up for in these threads what's one piece more in the form of KV's avatar to add to the hypocrisy pile? It's not just his avatar though, it's his BF username, Kidd Vicious, too. So, on one hand he bangs on about violence against women, but on the other hand he glorifies violence against women by means of his BF username and avatar. It's a wee bit rich spouting violence against women under such a circumstance. But I'm sure KV has no issue with cognitive dissonance for feminism's adherents typically don't seem to have an issue with it either, despite a shit tonne of evidence of double standards and hypocrisy on their part. So, given this, it either makes feminism's adherents incredibly stupid, ignorant, gullible and naive or, their anti-male actions are willful, hence evil.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Given who KV has chosen as an avatar he can't be taken seriously on issues of DV, for his avatar makes a mockery of the issue. KV speaks of DV against women, then at the same time figuratively pisses on these same women by means of displaying a wife basher for an avatar.

With the massive amounts of hypocrisy that feminism has been shown up for in these threads what's one piece more in the form of KV's avatar to add to the hypocrisy pile? It's not just his avatar though, it's his BF username, Kidd Vicious, too. So, on one hand he bangs on about violence against women, but on the other hand he glorifies violence against women by means of his BF username and avatar. It's a wee bit rich spouting violence against women under such a circumstance. But I'm sure KV has no issue with cognitive dissonance for feminism's adherents typically don't seem to have an issue with it either, despite a shit tonne of evidence of double standards and hypocrisy on their part.

I explained the reasons why I have my username and avatar, and whilst you have worked yourself into a soapy lather, you may want to go back and re-read. My reasoning was the opposite of you masturbatory fantasy.

So, given this, it either makes feminism's adherents incredibly stupid, ignorant, gullible and naive or, their anti-male actions are willful, hence evil.

It's an interesting choice of word. You have made it clear that you believe that Barack Obama is a messenger of Satan who sends His messages via hand signals. What was it you posted last week? Something about devils in flying saucers? I think you should lay off the old testament for a bit.

I wonder why you don't bring your old testament beliefs into this thread. You've made your opinions clear, your post last week on the issue of rape was decidedly BCE. I'd advise you not to express that opinion around other people; although those views will be eradicated soon enough. Progress, the inevitable march of socialism, the decline of religious belief etc.

 

[tesseract]

I explained the reasons why I have my username and avatar, and whilst you have worked yourself into a soapy lather, you may want to go back and re-read. My reasoning was the opposite of you masturbatory fantasy.

Glorifying a wife basher by publicly displaying him as your personal avatar and honouring this man with the incorporating part of his actual name with your user name displays the opposite of your rationalization.

It's an interesting choice of word. You have made it clear that you believe that Barack Obama is a messenger of Satan who sends His messages via hand signals. What was it you posted last week? Something about devils in flying saucers? I think you should lay off the old testament for a bit.

I wonder why you don't bring your old testament beliefs into this thread. You've made your opinions clear, your post last week on the issue of rape was decidedly BCE. I'd advise you not to express that opinion around other people; although those views will be eradicated soon enough. Progress, the inevitable march of socialism, the decline of religious belief etc.

Hahahaha! Nice attempt at deflecting attention away from your glorifying and honouring of a convicted wife basher.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Hahahaha! Nice attempt at deflecting attention away from your glorifying and honouring of a convicted wife basher.

No, I have explained the origin of my name and my avatar.

Let me ask you this; do you think women contribute to rape through desire or behaviour?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

What you say is true but I was actually I was referring to a post of his expressing his delight at some bukake pr0n he watched where a 'chick' was ejaculated on dozens of times. It's disappeared now since I previously pointed out his hypocrisy.

You found a post from 2009, that suggested nothing of the sort.

 

[Lester Burnham]

You found a post from 2009, that suggested nothing of the sort.

Yes it did, and that's why you deleted it.

 

[telsor]

Yes it did, and that's why you deleted it.

There is a definite case of 'me thinks he doest protest too much' about KV on this entire subject.

 

[Slippery Pete]

...it made her uncomfortable...it was unnecessary .. Regardless of words used.

"It was funny," Bouchard said.

"It was funny," Bouchard said.

"It was funny," Bouchard said.


Stop projecting your own insecurities and body issues onto other women, Cartwrong.

 

[ManWithNoName]

The stupidity of people saying "but men are objectified to!!!11!on1e" in this thread is mind boggling. Akin to people who complain about "racism" against white people.

 

[telsor]

The stupidity of people saying "but men are objectified to!!!11!on1e" in this thread is mind boggling. Akin to people who complain about "racism" against white people.

So it's like denying things that actually happen?