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I think Engineer became the go to career when people got sick of the idea of becoming an Accountant. I wish I'd left school at 16 and done a trade.
 
Here we go, all the smug kids defending engineers. Some things never change.

Why do I care about engineering? I don't drive so I don't need to use freeways and roads?
 

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Gough said:
It's always the kids that pulled apart every toy they owned that grow up to be engineers.
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Guilty. I always ripped clicky pens into their components then customise my own pen.


JoseMourinho said:
Yes, it is. I found a job within 2-3 months of graduating and have my wage has gone up by roughly 50% over 3 years. :$.
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Did you get a job in consulting or banking/finance?
 
I used to try and convince kids to let me give them stick and pokes. No wonder I ended up at RMIT.
 

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Silent Alarm said:
Typical. As soon as the Engineering students come in, this thread becomes mind numbingly self-indulgent and boring.
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That would never happen in a discussion full of Arts students......

I've worked with engineers, trades, accountants etc. and it's amazing the number that fit the stereotype in each category.
 
Embleberry said:
It's a tough job market for engineering students atm, civil students would be better off in the grad market for now. Your last sentence is a common outcome for many people I know from uni and high school - not just for engineering but also students who studied business/commerce, arts and science. Students don't take university seriously these days. Most students don't even plan ahead for future employment opportunities let alone think about their HECS debt! It's become a path that high school students are pushed into 'because that's just what you do now when you graduate from high school'...

I'm in my final semester of my commerce/engineering degree now, I've found that engineering students in particular don't prepare themselves for employment from their early years at uni. They only start to look at graduate jobs and perhaps internships in their final year when it's too late. Whereas the culture for graduate and internship opportunities is ingrained in you from day 1 in commerce - particularly in GO8 universities.
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A lot of UWA engineering students in recent years have been doing meaningless research work as vacation work experience due to how shit the job market is. If it is tough for grads it is no doubt tough for students wanting to get that summer work experience between years.

Generally for many engineering students many companies do specify that they only want penultimate year students which makes it difficult to get that experience early even though it should be encouraged.
 
Scotland said:
That would never happen in a discussion full of Arts students......

I've worked with engineers, trades, accountants etc. and it's amazing the number that fit the stereotype in each category.
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There's a reason stereotypes exist.


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JoseMourinho said:
Banking/Finance - currently an authorised rep at a finanical planning firm.
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Nice, well done! Are you enjoying what you do?

Reynolds Number said:
A lot of UWA engineering students in recent years have been doing meaningless research work as vacation work experience due to how shit the job market is. If it is tough for grads it is no doubt tough for students wanting to get that summer work experience between years.

Generally for many engineering students many companies do specify that they only want penultimate year students which makes it difficult to get that experience early even though it should be encouraged.
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Hello, Mr Dimensionless :p I think I've heard some of the guys in my cohort do that with their professors. It's free labour for the department but I mean some of these guys are interested in academia as a career so fair game. Although, I reckon a better experience would be to take up an international research opportunity with a partner institution. A lot of these have been popping up at Unimelb in the past year, it would be an unreal experience!

Yeah the companies do require the penultimate criteria but there are ways around it - mainly through networking. This is something that is undervalued by engineering students in my experience. The point I was trying to make is that students should be trying to be more involved in extracurricular activities, a part time job anywhere and self development. A lot of the guys I know only have a degree in their resume and nothing else. I know for a fact that if I didn't take the opportunity to join a student society committee and do some volunteering work at uni I wouldn't have been successful with graduate applications. Not only do they beef up your CV but they also provide you with invaluable experience to draw on for your application and interview responses, along with developing communication and time management skills - both of which many engineering students lack.
 
I'm a fortnight away from finishing uni myself, and have found myself between a bit of a rock and a hard place.

Originally I am from country Victoria, and have always maintained that once my course finishes, I would love to move back to a rural area out of Melbourne and work as a journalist for a small leader publication, covering local sports and issues etc.

However this year I was lucky enough to land a job with Fox Footy during the football season, where the pay is very generous. I also have another well-paying job which, while it can be tedious and not very enjoyable at times, I like how it challenges me and I enjoy the people I work with.

So while I thought the goal posts had shifted somewhat, my best mate from the country, who is a journalist for a newspaper in a small town near where I used to live, put in a good word for me to his editor, who requested my resume, and then rang me two minutes after I sent it. He booked me in for a job interview this Friday, and basically said the job is mine if I can show that I can write a good yarn, which I can.

I'm really unsure what to do. Do I walk away from the job at Fox Footy with the amazing money, despite it not being a very glamorous role? Or do I relocate out of Melbourne, a place that I have actually grown to love, to move back to where I used to call home, and do what I have always wanted to do, probably for a considerably less amount of crust?
 
I would stick fat with fox footy for a few years (3-5), as the experience for your resume will be invaluable.
Im assume you're young since finishing uni in two weeks. If the money is as good as you say, it'll set you up for the future to buy/build something you want when you move back home if that's still your desire in 3-5 years time.
 
Ahern2Boof said:
I'm a fortnight away from finishing uni myself, and have found myself between a bit of a rock and a hard place.

Originally I am from country Victoria, and have always maintained that once my course finishes, I would love to move back to a rural area out of Melbourne and work as a journalist for a small leader publication, covering local sports and issues etc.

However this year I was lucky enough to land a job with Fox Footy during the football season, where the pay is very generous. I also have another well-paying job which, while it can be tedious and not very enjoyable at times, I like how it challenges me and I enjoy the people I work with.

So while I thought the goal posts had shifted somewhat, my best mate from the country, who is a journalist for a newspaper in a small town near where I used to live, put in a good word for me to his editor, who requested my resume, and then rang me two minutes after I sent it. He booked me in for a job interview this Friday, and basically said the job is mine if I can show that I can write a good yarn, which I can.

I'm really unsure what to do. Do I walk away from the job at Fox Footy with the amazing money, despite it not being a very glamorous role? Or do I relocate out of Melbourne, a place that I have actually grown to love, to move back to where I used to call home, and do what I have always wanted to do, probably for a considerably less amount of crust?
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I reckon it sounds like you already know what you want to do, by the way you typed that post. It's an enviable position but I think working at Fox has greater career benefits. You're still young. Use that money to help set yourself up in Melbourne and then in a few years time you can reconsider. Just my 2 cents speaking from what I would do in your position, having studied journo at uni
 
HirdyLannister said:
I would stick fat with fox footy for a few years (3-5), as the experience for your resume will be invaluable.
Im assume you're young since finishing uni in two weeks. If the money is as good as you say, it'll set you up for the future to buy/build something you want when you move back home if that's still your desire in 3-5 years time.
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Haha I didn't even see this post, but great minds hey!
 

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