Play Nice First transgender player in the AFLW

[Bostonian]

The majority of women playing in the AFLW wouldn't get a game of A-grade ammos. The differences are that big.

Even in cricket, a sport that is far less reliant on physical strength and which has had a worldwide women's competition for decades, very few women who play for their country are good enough to compete in men's grade cricket, let alone against male professionals in first class/List A.

My point is I've seen male senior players that would be lucky to get a kick in a decent u/16 boys side. We can't assume every trans woman that's playing football was any good to start with.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Indeed. These tactics are really rather crude and obvious attempts at censorship.

It is classic far left theory that they must "own the public space". It used to be expressed as "owning the street". The public space is now online.

Shaming those who disagree and attempting to bully them "off the street" is classic marxist tactic.

If this thread develops you ( and I ) will be attacked as phobic this and phobic that etc. and will probably end up being exited for a few days by mods concerned that what is perceived as "nasty" but is in fact simple statement of fact might be seen to be tolerated and that is an absolute no no.....that is the game mate.

Exactly how it usually goes, good to see more and more people waking up to what's going on though, it's just becoming ridiculous now. Amazing that people could convince themself that men competing against women in a contact sport is okay if they take estrogen for a year, as though that somehow erases years and years of masculine development.

 

[The Gong]

If you say so mate. They dont have 2 x chromosomes, don't have ovaries, can't get pregnant. They aren't women in the eyes of nature and science, but gong on bigfooty forum says so, it must be true.

Congratulations on nature and science appointing you their spokesperson. You opinion carries so much more weight now.

 

[HairyO]

We have at least four girls that big in Broken Hill Women's AFL, Lauren Jackson is bigger then Hannah Mouncey.

Taller, not bigger. And I bet he would beat her across the board except playing a game of Around The World.

 

[Off The Couch]

Hi kirsti - thanks for being willing to take part in the "discussion" and some insight in to your transition. You may have already answered so apologies and just point me to the post but how long have you been playing in the women's league, have you "dominated" that competition and has there been much backlash to you being allowed to play in that league and what level of discrimination have you encountered

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

No
Lifes too short for rubbish. I've read Marx he's an economist, is his name used because cos of a lack of courage to say Jewish?

Fair enough, you don't want to look into the comment you're trying to criticise then shutup and go away.
That's certainly a loose use of the term economist.

 

[ydraw]

My point is I've seen male senior players that would be lucky to get a kick in a decent u/16 boys side. We can't assume every trans woman that's playing football was any good to start with.

That's just unlucky. Doesn't mean they get to play against women just cause it's easier.

 

[King Brown]

Ok, on looking that player up they are a pretty big unit.

Doesn't seem fair for the rest of the women in the comp, does it?

She'd tower over Frederick-Traub and Sarah Perkins, two of the bigger built players in the league.

 

[clogwearer]

The whole search to expand the number of "genders" is a far left marxist attack on the male.

Some tinfoil hat material there. Are you able to elaborate?

 

[Bokonon_]

No, his name is used because he's the progenitor of left-wing though and is most people's introduction to left-wing philosophy.

But he wasn't an economist. Saying he was an economist is like saying creationists are scientists.

You've got no idea, clearly

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Congratulations on nature and science appointing you their spokesperson. You opinion carries so much more weight now.

Nah you're right mate, I'll go and take some melanotan and get dark skin, now I'm african, or is that not how it works?

 

[HairyO]

Congratulations on nature and science appointing you their spokesperson. You opinion carries so much more weight now.

Why do you only attack the person and not the comments. Do chromosomes change?

If you stop taking the drugs, what happens?

What other physiological changes can we declare to be permanent when it they require constant drug taking? Organ transplants come to mind, but nothing else.

 

[Bostonian]

Nah. They will be faster and stronger than most. They will kick further too.

Not if they were garbage mens players. Go watch mens reserves teams in some leagues and you'll see men who can't kick 30m, can't run fast and basically are absolute rubbish at football.

The issue isn't when bog average players become trans players. It's when higher level players/athletes become involved.

 

[Ricky Vaughn]

Wow you got me
Do you have a point of view or opinion to contribute or do you just make smug remarks in an attempt to be funny?

Smug remarks in an attempt to be funny are more in my wheelhouse.

You stick to debating topics you have a limited understanding of.

 

[The Gong]

Nah you're right mate, I'll go and take some melanotan and get dark skin, now I'm african, or is that not how it works?

 

[ydraw]

You've got no idea, clearly

Yeah cause you really added a lot to the conversation by claiming bringing up Marx was thinly veiled anti-semitism. Probably the most ridiculous comment in this thread and that's saying a lot.

 

[Bokonon_]

Fair enough, you don't want to look into the comment you're trying to criticise then shutup and go away.
That's certainly a loose use of the term economist.

Economist is accurate and precise terminology

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

You've got no idea, clearly

Funny when someone who's clearly out of their depth on a topic tries to tell someone else they have no idea. Go read up on it or shut up and go away, you add nothing to this.

 

[ydraw]

Economist is accurate and precise terminology

Talking about economic concepts doesn't make you an economist. Marx was a philosopher who had absolutely zero impact in mainstream economic thought.

If your looking for a discredited name to hang your lefty hat on at least talk about Keynes, who despite having all his theories discredited around 40 years ago was actually an economist and was taken seriously as an economist in his time.

 

[Bostonian]

Doesn't seem fair for the rest of the women in the comp, does it?

She'd tower over Frederick-Traub and Sarah Perkins, two of the bigger built players in the league.

Will depend on their playing style I guess. They might understand the damage they could do to a small female player so they adjust their game style to be less physical or hold back on the power they deliver in a tackle.

 

[Bokonon_]

Yeah cause you really added a lot to the conversation by claiming bringing up Marx was thinly veiled anti-semitism. Probably the most ridiculous comment in this thread and that's saying a lot.

ImSometimes reducing an argument to it's logical absurdity is efficient discourse

 

[kirsti]

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Economist is accurate and precise terminology

No it isn't

 

[J_Moore]

**** up dickhead, am I not allowed to have my own opinion on the topic?

lol are u triggered?

 

[HairyO]

Not if they were garbage mens players. Go watch mens reserves teams in some leagues and you'll see men who can't kick 30m, can't run fast and basically are absolute rubbish at football.

The issue isn't when bog average players become trans players. It's when higher level players/athletes become involved.

So the logical answer here is to only allow crap at football transgenders to play AFLW?